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On December 05 2012 01:33 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Stephano and Demuslim going Korea? That is some exciting news indeed. Hoping Demuslim shows his TvZ skills at the highest level.
Agreed. On a side note, if Stephano is staying in Korea long-term, he has no reason to not attend GSL at least. I could see before when he figured it would be too time-consuming to spend all that time in Korea, but he's already there. He really should take that Code S seed lol.
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This seems too good to be true...
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Weird seeing Zenio and Idra on the same team. Maybe they can play each other alot and become the team's ZvZ experts :p
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Are people forgetting how bad some of the KESPA players were at SC2 last season? Ok they are practising only SC2 exclusively now, but this TL/EG team is more than good enough to get at least a decent placing.
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That roster is kinda stacked!
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On December 05 2012 00:31 Yorbon wrote:
Now all we need is a 'why tl-eg is going to win proleague'-post.
Because at the moment they might be more financially secure than any korean team, either esf or kespa?
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On December 05 2012 01:24 Rhaegar_tar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 01:10 GenesisX wrote:
Wow stacked team... Just add in Scarlett lol There is no need for her here, she would give no addition to the team. I aso think that there is still something behind this, maybe the EG guys like Stephano taking part in the next OSL, which would be a huge blow to GOM, who tried countless times to bring Stephano in code S.
It wouldn't make any sense for Stephano to play only in OSL. It's just as much preparation based as GSL. Now if he did both I would cry tears of ecstasy.
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On December 05 2012 01:17 MateShade wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 00:04 lichter wrote:
Hmm, I'm not liking this team all that much. They could do well in an all-kill format with Taeja and Stephano as the backbone and HerO, JYP and the rest as the meat, but they might not do well in Proleague. Do they have a player for each matchup? Proleague format puts a lot of importance in race picking for maps, so having a matchup ace for all matchups is more important than having all-around strong players.
TvT: Taeja
TvZ: Taeja
TvP: Taeja
DeMuslim is okay in TvT and TvP though, esp if he brings his NASL form. Not sure how Thorzain is right now. Sea is showing potential but not sure what his best matchup is. PuMa had eye surgery or something (read it on NASL LR thread explaining his triple bunker rush), so I wonder how much he has been practicing.
PvP: HuK / Coinflip
PvZ: JYP? I guess
PvT: HerO? No real choice.
Their Toss lineup of HerO/JYP/HuK look good on paper, but do any of them have a really strong matchup? They are all players that are good in everything but don't have a specific great one. JYPvZ used to be solid but I don't know about now, esp with all the late game PvZ tears.
ZvZ: Idra / Zenio
ZvT: Stephano
ZvP: Stephano
The Zerg lineup seems ok, with Idra showing really strong ZvZ recently. Stephano is historically weakest in that matchup but thankfully Zenio and Idra might be good enough to fill that role. Picking up ByuL might be a good idea though. I liked the look of his ZvT.
Actually that's better than I thought. However they're going to need someone to step up in the TvX (Taeja can only play one game lol) and PvX matchups (more specialty, less all around) before they will really be a threatening team. Hope they do well.
Edit: Forgot to mention they could get counter picked really hard. Stephano doesn't like ZvZ, JYPvT is legendary, HerO's pretty weak in PvP, HuK's PvT is sub-50. Taeja is the only one without a weak matchup among their staples. Lol this is such a bad 'analysis'. Hero just 4-0d Taeja and you're calling hero meat.. Right
I don't think he means meat as in Hero will get beat up, more "backbone" sort of thing. Meat and potatoes rather than minced meat sort of deal.
That said, it IS a bad analysis. No choice in PvT? HuK took out Ryung and Yoda last weekend. His PvT isn't so bad. Hero's PvZ is on the mend now too. It's still not the best and indeed might not be as good as JYP, but it's something at least.
Thorzain's TvT has seemed pretty solid, he just hasn't had enough opportunity to show it off in the last few months, his TvP has been pretty good as well.
All in all I prefer this analysis I found on reddit:
Assuming we have Byul this is how the roster plays out:
Puma (Has been a strong player in the past, but has been quiet lately. Very hard to rate, but he has always done well for EG in team leagues in the past.)
Idra (Stay away from P, keep him to ZvT and ZvZ)
Stephano (Clutch, ace prospect)
Huk (Stay away from Z, good for PvP and PvT)
Thorzain (Good all around, possible clutch ace performer -He brang mouz to runner-up in IPL TAC 1, scoring multiple wins and even all-killing team Q-IM in the first set of the finals 5-0)
Byul - Good zerg that's fallen off a bit since Fnatic's first GSTL appearance. Won't rate him as there's not enough data.
TL:
Zenio/Sea: Sea is too new to judge exactly where he lies. Zenio we have a lot of information about, but not recently. Both are ambiguous and Zenio was said to always have some nerve issues. Won't rate them.
Hero: Good all around, but not someone I would use in an Ace.
TeamTaeja - It's fucking Taeja. The only guy in the world I might want more than him in the team league is Yonghwa who was the only IM player to have a win last GSTL.
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On December 05 2012 01:37 Gingerninja wrote:
Are people forgetting how bad some of the KESPA players were at SC2 last season? Ok they are practising only SC2 exclusively now, but this TL/EG team is more than good enough to get at least a decent placing.
Perhaps more people are remembering the Kespa domination of the MvP invitational where only a single non-Kespa player was able to score a positive record (Naniwa), and even then only barely.
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On December 05 2012 01:34 LgNKami wrote:
Im calling stephano all kill unless flash can take him out.
I'm willing to bet you a million dollars that you're wrong :p
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On December 05 2012 01:46 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 01:37 Gingerninja wrote:
Are people forgetting how bad some of the KESPA players were at SC2 last season? Ok they are practising only SC2 exclusively now, but this TL/EG team is more than good enough to get at least a decent placing. Perhaps more people are remembering the Kespa domination of the MvP invitational where only a single non-Kespa player was able to score a positive record (Naniwa), and even then only barely.
Beating up on Americans and some decent Europeans isn't exactly going to strike fear into the hearts of Taeja, HerO, Stephano, JYP, etc.
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On December 05 2012 01:50 bblack wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 01:34 LgNKami wrote:
Im calling stephano all kill unless flash can take him out. I'm willing to bet you a million dollars that you're wrong :p
There are two rounds of all-kill format in the season. Be careful what you wish for lol.
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HUK PLAYING FOR LIQUID! YEY!!1 \o/
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So does this make Eg/TL the favorites to win Proleague?!
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Just read the EG announcemnet on their site as well. This is just sickening! In a good way! I cant hold back the excitement! Really excited how the EG foreigners step up their game with the new coach!
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All I really need to know is whether they will have proper VOD's up this time around. I can't watch streams late night.
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On December 04 2012 22:44 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2012 22:30 Caihead wrote:
First game being played against KT is gonna be rough. I dunno. KT didn't look that great against SKT yesterday. Granted, it was a show match. If TL-EG has most of their line up there, I would say they are actually the favorites in PL format.
Players are still warming up to the maps and like you said. Show matches don't mean much of anything.
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On December 04 2012 22:29 Integra wrote:
Wait a second, who owns the team house in Korea, is it EG? EG has two team houses now?
What the fuck are the other teams doing wrong, seriously.
We hear all the time how various so called "teams" opens up a team house and then some bullshit happens, like we lost the money, players aren't getting food or the staff in the house are idiots. Then we have EG which for some odd reason are competent enough to have two team houses. EG should hold courses to the other teams on how to operate a successful organization.
EG treats their sponser very well. They don't just put a logo on their jersey and forget about them, they promote the fuck out of them at every chance they get. I think this has a lot to do with how well they are doing financially.
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On December 05 2012 00:31 Yorbon wrote:
Now all we need is a 'why tl-eg is going to win proleague'-post.
Pointless, the post would be two words long. Taeja. Stephano.
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EPT
