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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 22 2012 15:30 GMT
#23
/subscribing
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 22 2012 15:31 GMT
#24
That is to say...

/awaiting-further-signups-to-decide-if-I'd-rather-play-this-or-replace-into-Chrono
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 22 2012 19:21 GMT
#31
:/
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 23 2012 14:56 GMT
#36
/in...don't think Chrono gonna happen.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 29 2012 17:31 GMT
#158
Presuming I'm not lynched for inactivity the first couple cycles, I should be good to go.

Also hello friends. BH I'm the doctor bish not you.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 29 2012 23:39 GMT
#201
Yes you owned town after I played like a dick on your scumteam in WoF Ace.

Also hi guys I'm town.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 29 2012 23:51 GMT
#207
Blzing its been too long bro. lol
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 30 2012 00:23 GMT
#234
I'm assuming preponderance means disproportionately high percentage?

You have a penchant for utilizing vocabulary beyond my reading comprehension dear. I like it.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 30 2012 05:42 GMT
#306
Good stuff guys. Good, good stuff.

For anyone who hasn't played with him before, Ace is going to pop in about twice or thrice a cycle. He's not going to try and lead anyone. He's also not going to FOLLOW anyone. He's going to play Mafia. If he's scum, he's going to fucking own us. If he's town, he's going to be right but will probably lose because he can't stand people not playing on his level and will lose interest.

That about sum it up sir?

So let's just drop the topic of Ace as he's made all of what...1 one-liner post? We'll resume discussion of the man once he throws some content up in this piece.

dabears, I'm more interested in you damning DYH for having an opinion on Ace. The guy doesn't even HAVE any posts to discredit, so why are you so concerned about him trying to do so this early anyway? Do you know something I don't about Ace's alignment?

That's the only thing that's jumped out at me so far - everything else is chaff and while I don't necessarily mind it, it's certainly not helping anyone find scum (happy Bugs?)

I'm going to bed guys.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 30 2012 17:37 GMT
#357
On December 01 2012 02:33 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 02:27 marvellosity wrote:
austin, I agree that I don't like this vote:

On November 30 2012 10:46 debears wrote:
On November 30 2012 10:38 DoYouHas wrote:
On November 30 2012 10:29 debears wrote:
On November 30 2012 08:25 DoYouHas wrote:
Hi everyone, looking forward to an active game. It's nice to recognize many of the names on the playerlist even though I haven't played in a while.

I'm happy to see Marv/BH/VE in here. With those 3 there is no reason the thread should be inactive.

I'm perhaps overly cautious of Ace. His reputation obviously precedes him. Never having played with him paired with the knowledge that he can be a devastatingly effective scum leader makes me a little paranoid.

As always, I am in favor of lurker lynching on day1 unless a better candidate shows up (which it inevitably will).


DoYouHas

Why are you trying to paint such a picture on ace? Sure, he is a forefather of TL Mafia, and I'm sure all of us are aware of his ability. But why try to focus on his scumplay so much over his town play?

As I recall, he is also a pretty darn good town player. Stating how you are overly cautious of him (implying somewhat to others that they should also be) just because he's a good mafia player doesn't seem like something a townie would do


Because it does the dual job of accurately explaining my feelings towards him to start the game and hopefully stirring up a little fear towards him so that people don't sheep him quite as readily. If he ends up taking a town leader role, I want him to earn it instead of being ushered into it on his reputation.


That doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to sheep someone cuz of their reputation. I'm going to sheep if their case

1) makes sense
2) is good
3) I believe they are town

If he takes a town leader position, it'll be because of those things. Not because of his reputation

##Unvote
##Vote DoYouHas


Just because debears himself won't sheep someone on reputation doesn't mean people don't, and it doesn't make it inherently scummy to think that people do.

I can find various instances of townies basically just sheeping me (e.g. Clarity, iamperfection)
To be frank, I do think almost everyone are more willingly to sheep players who are considered to be stronger rather than newbies even if they deny it. At least to some extent. I think it's a part of your subconscious.


Truth. Something to do with pack mentality, wanting to fit in, etc. etc. Reading what I've missed y'all, hopefully there's more than discussing whether or not people are going to sheep Ace. :/
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 30 2012 18:09 GMT
#371
I suppose no one but me is interested in Ace's marv vote, right?

Everyone scared or something?

Ace care to share with the class?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 30 2012 18:38 GMT
#392
##Vote: dabears

Frankly I don't care about further explanation from dabears regarding this whole mess. I think he's said enough. The whole exchange between dabears and DYH is ridiculous in my opinion. People don't SHEEP Ace because he's known almost exclusively for his SCUM play. I've seen him really fucking own as town, but people don't know or care about that. Ace is known as a top-tier SCUM player, and so that's the image Ace conjures.

The fact that dabears is all up in arms about DYH "discrediting" Ace is nonsense...not only had Ace barely posted anything at the time, but DYH explained his motivation TWICE and dabears still didn't relent, or verily even acknowledge said explanations.

Also this post rings scumbells for me.

On November 30 2012 10:39 debears wrote:
Actually marv I have a slight town read on you

Ok guys I looked up Marv's previous games for games where he says he is town early on.

He has not done in his last few games as scum. He has done it twice as town

What does this mean? Something so small as saying you are town is most likely a subconscious thing. Sure, marv could have decided to do it this game, but it was right at game start. No one else had said anything like it

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 08:01 marvellosity wrote:
Hi all.

Totes town ^^


Boom look at that pro analysis.

Links in the spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&user=140487

Town. Here is Mario Mini Mafia, Marv does not make any mention of being town

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=239&topic_id=382922

Town. Here marv states his posting is pro town, but does not call himself town in chrono trigger

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602&user=140487

Scum. Here marv does not state town in his scum game is GSL

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625&user=140487

Scum. Death note- no mention of being town when marv is scum

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=352668&user=140487

Town. States he is outright town


Like...I don't know if it was meant to be a joke, but I think I know EXACTLY when marv started saying he's town at the outset of games, and it had nothing to do with his alignment at the time. Yet he's trying to pass off this post as some sort of actual analysis of marv's play? Simply by calling it analysis? Give me a break. Let's just kill it with fire, yeah?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 30 2012 18:50 GMT
#395
Lack of pretty much anything from Bugs and BH interested me. In BH case, it's evident that he was around even.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 30 2012 18:59 GMT
#402
Given my most recent post on dabears Xata, are some of your suspicions assuaged?

Dabears, meta isn't about people making specific posts as specific alignments, that shit is so fucking easy to fake.

How about YOU read up on meta and then come and talk to me about it.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
November 30 2012 19:32 GMT
#410
It rings scummbells anytime someone tries to pass off BS as actual analysis. You honestly can't see Mafia motivation for having town believe he did something worthwhile when he really didn't do anything?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 01 2012 00:30 GMT
#432
Compared to the hyper pace at game start, the thread is certainly moving at a snails pace today.

Since Xata's stance on me has gone from "nothing decisive" to decisive enough to vote, I suppose I should respond to the accusations.

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 01 2012 03:51 Xatalos wrote:
One player I find suspicious is VisceraEyes. He hasn't been merely trolling or lurking, but rather posting pseudo-productive posts that make him look somewhat active - without actually accomplishing anything. This playstyle in between useless and useful is the one I'm always suspicious of.

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 14:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Good stuff guys. Good, good stuff.

For anyone who hasn't played with him before, Ace is going to pop in about twice or thrice a cycle. He's not going to try and lead anyone. He's also not going to FOLLOW anyone. He's going to play Mafia. If he's scum, he's going to fucking own us. If he's town, he's going to be right but will probably lose because he can't stand people not playing on his level and will lose interest.

That about sum it up sir?

So let's just drop the topic of Ace as he's made all of what...1 one-liner post? We'll resume discussion of the man once he throws some content up in this piece.

dabears, I'm more interested in you damning DYH for having an opinion on Ace. The guy doesn't even HAVE any posts to discredit, so why are you so concerned about him trying to do so this early anyway? Do you know something I don't about Ace's alignment?

That's the only thing that's jumped out at me so far - everything else is chaff and while I don't necessarily mind it, it's certainly not helping anyone find scum (happy Bugs?)

I'm going to bed guys.


This post does actually have a point about debears... But VisceraEyes doesn't pursue it anyhow, just points it out (like some other players did) and never speaks of it again. The rest is pretty much safe-to-say meaningless fluff.

Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 02:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 01 2012 02:33 Lazermonkey wrote:
On December 01 2012 02:27 marvellosity wrote:
austin, I agree that I don't like this vote:

On November 30 2012 10:46 debears wrote:
On November 30 2012 10:38 DoYouHas wrote:
On November 30 2012 10:29 debears wrote:
On November 30 2012 08:25 DoYouHas wrote:
Hi everyone, looking forward to an active game. It's nice to recognize many of the names on the playerlist even though I haven't played in a while.

I'm happy to see Marv/BH/VE in here. With those 3 there is no reason the thread should be inactive.

I'm perhaps overly cautious of Ace. His reputation obviously precedes him. Never having played with him paired with the knowledge that he can be a devastatingly effective scum leader makes me a little paranoid.

As always, I am in favor of lurker lynching on day1 unless a better candidate shows up (which it inevitably will).


DoYouHas

Why are you trying to paint such a picture on ace? Sure, he is a forefather of TL Mafia, and I'm sure all of us are aware of his ability. But why try to focus on his scumplay so much over his town play?

As I recall, he is also a pretty darn good town player. Stating how you are overly cautious of him (implying somewhat to others that they should also be) just because he's a good mafia player doesn't seem like something a townie would do


Because it does the dual job of accurately explaining my feelings towards him to start the game and hopefully stirring up a little fear towards him so that people don't sheep him quite as readily. If he ends up taking a town leader role, I want him to earn it instead of being ushered into it on his reputation.


That doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to sheep someone cuz of their reputation. I'm going to sheep if their case

1) makes sense
2) is good
3) I believe they are town

If he takes a town leader position, it'll be because of those things. Not because of his reputation

##Unvote
##Vote DoYouHas


Just because debears himself won't sheep someone on reputation doesn't mean people don't, and it doesn't make it inherently scummy to think that people do.

I can find various instances of townies basically just sheeping me (e.g. Clarity, iamperfection)
To be frank, I do think almost everyone are more willingly to sheep players who are considered to be stronger rather than newbies even if they deny it. At least to some extent. I think it's a part of your subconscious.


Truth. Something to do with pack mentality, wanting to fit in, etc. etc. Reading what I've missed y'all, hopefully there's more than discussing whether or not people are going to sheep Ace. :/


A quite unnecessary and forgettable post.

Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I suppose no one but me is interested in Ace's marv vote, right?

Everyone scared or something?

Ace care to share with the class?


Actually an "original" topic, but yet again safe to say and not really that productive. Feels like something Mafia might say to look like they're doing something, while actually not doing anything. I also dislike how none of his posts are connected... It's like he's posting the minimum required amount and avoiding commitment to anything.

Overall, nothing decisive, but all of this leaves an uneasy feeling about VE for me.



His major problem with my play is that he thinks that I'm being productive but not really? That's pretty meaningless coming from a guy who's only act is to vote for someone based on outdated (I ninja'd him, not really his fault) information and defending himself. Considering the fact that this is D1, and considering the amount of content that is (not) in the thread, I think I've done a fair amount of scumhunting.

He cites my questioning Ace as "something Mafia might say to appear helpful without really accomplishing anything." Except, it's only that way because Ace hasn't responded to my inquiry, so that's really out of my control. Further, it discounts the (true) motivation of "Maybe he's just curious about a suspicious vote with no reasoning and wants clarification"

Also, I'd like to hear what's "bandwagon-y" about my vote on debears. First of all, I'm like...the second vote on the guy? Third? I'd argue that marv's no-reason vote is more "bandwagon-y", but whatever. I define "bandwagon-y" in a different way I guess. Bandwagon-y wouldn't include reasoning. Bandwagon-y would be like "Welp, everyone else is voting this guy, guess I better hop on the bandwagon." You know....as the made-up word implies? But it wasn't. I gave reasoning for my vote.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 01 2012 00:35 GMT
#434
Because I missed those posts in the reread leading up to my case on debears. Sowwy.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 01 2012 00:38 GMT
#435
Interestingly, they're referring to the same guy so I shouldn't have. I didn't filter the guy, I just found the posts I was looking for and quoted them.

What do you make of Xata's case on me? How did he go from "nothing decisive" to a vote after his statement about me not following up on debears was proven patently false the moment he hit submit on the first post?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 01 2012 01:09 GMT
#443
Blz look at other candidates who have actual content in the thread before you call me a noob for saying you're hedging bish.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 01 2012 01:19 GMT
#453
Probably something silly like the town game he referenced was a scum game or something equally knobish.
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