• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:43
CEST 08:43
KST 15:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL47Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1[BSL20] ProLeague: Bracket Stage & Dates9GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th13Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 1 & 2 Added to Xbox Game Pass The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing CN community: Firefly accused of suspicious activities How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports?
Tourneys
Bellum Gens Elite: Stara Zagora 2025 $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? Mihu vs Korea Players Statistics
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals NA Team League 6/8/2025 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 2
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread What do you want from future RTS games? Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Cognitive styles x game perf…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 32691 users

Newbie Mini Mafia XXXI

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 19 2012 16:58 GMT
#86
/in

mario mini still going on but should be done soon I hope. Need to play some more mafia games to learn it, that was my first :S
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 19 2012 17:04 GMT
#87
Mario mini was fun but I gott a lot of flak for being noobie so hopefully I can get some coaching and some aftergame feedback from this game :D
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 20 2012 05:48 GMT
#102
Hurray I thought the day would never come where we got one more player ;o
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 08:20 GMT
#196
Hello all,
This is my second game, my first game was mario mini mafia where town won! (we lynched mafia first day and shot one first night, hopefully we can do the same here!) you can see the game here if you want to check my filter: Mario Mini Mafia
On the lurker lynch policy, I think scum reads should trump everything because the goal of the game is to find the scum. If someone doesn't post at all then they will likely get modkilled/replaced anyways, and if someone isn't posting much at all then we need to pressure them more. But yeah if someone is hardly posting and we have nothing else to go off of then that person would be a good D1 lynch. On that note we shouldn't get bogged down in policy talk too much because it is easy for mafia to hide in it (everyone can just be like "oh yeah mmhmm lets do that that sounds good" without contributing anything at all or can just keep the policy talk going on for awhile so that no other discussion is being had.
And cheesecake all the way.

@ Oatsmaster
If you really have a scum read on Mr.Cheesecake then you need to make a case on him that tries to persuade us all. Posting "I have a feeling he is scum" is not going to make anyone throw their vote on him. Would you maybe expand a bit on why you think he is suspicious or if you still do?
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 12:27 GMT
#209
First off your format for your vote is wrong, secondly saying you are "intensely serious" is not a case on cheesecake. Frankly this is ridiculous and so anti-town so far that if it continues I don't think we should keep you around because this is either scum play or bad town play. The beginning of your filter is all fluff, which isn't that big of a deal since it is the start of the game and I don't really expect anything amazing from anyone, but then you post:
On November 25 2012 13:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
I got a scum feeling from cheesecake with his first 2 posts, I suggest we lynch him

On November 25 2012 13:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im seriously not sarcastic.
Seriously.
Its a feeling, I cant base it off anything though :/

I already told you before, if you are suspicious of someone you need to make a better post than that, you need to make a case against the person providing reasons for why they are suspicious.

Then there is this:
On November 25 2012 13:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah, also the worst decision to do 1 for 1 trades.
think about it if I'm scum, why would I randomly single out cheesecake? why did I even post? so far this game is so slow and as scum, they want it that way.


Why would you bring up "think about if I was scum", that is not a town mindset. Scum are the ones who would say something like that, all town needs to do is let their actions show that they are being pro-town, and so far you arent.

And then the final straw for me so far is this:
On November 25 2012 18:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah that was kinda extreme and was said to provoke a reaction. Which kinda worked :D
Nothing personal Cheesecake, I think you got extremely screwed by misunderstandings the last game

On November 25 2012 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
I probably cant be around during lynch but I will try to be there a few hours before.
Vote: Cheesecake
I am intensely serious.
Munk-e and Jacob, where did you go?


So you say yeah ok me saying cheese is scum without providing any reasoning is a bit extreme, THEN YOU DO IT ANYWAYS????? This is unacceptable.

I suggest you start making some real cases, untill then:

##vote: Oatsmaster
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 12:35 GMT
#212
You are continuing to be post nothing of substance. Shouting "OMGUS" is not a defense of your questionable actions so far because it is neither true or relevant. My issue is with your posting.

I'll again ask that you make a serious case against cheesecake, at this point I think you owe us one.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 12:36 GMT
#214
Your actions thus far are scummy, your vote on cheese is complete crap and you refuse to justify or explain it.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 13:00 GMT
#227
I ask questions to see what he will do, if he would have backed out of it I would be very suspicious but what I really want is a real fucking case, not just "Oh I feel this person is scum so I'm going to vote them". Asking him to make a real case or take his fucking vote back is hardly questionable? And comparing my vote and oats is not being honest in the slightest. There is a real reason to be suspicious of Oats so far, his posting. I also gave a reason for my vote on him and showed how right now his vote is complete crap whereas he provides no reason for his vote at all. They are hardly alike.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 13:02 GMT
#228
This is stupid btw, we should be scumhunting. If you are going to vote someone, you need to show why you think they are scum. I showed why your posting so far and your vote is crap, and you have still refused to make a case or provide adequate reasoning for your vote. We need to be finding scum - so do it and stop wasting time.

With that I will ask again: Can you give us a reason why you think Cheese is scummy and why you voted for him?
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 13:40 GMT
#236
You two seem to be agreeing that you don't think Oats is scum. Can you explain his vote onto cheese then, because he apparently can't provide a decent explanation for it himself.

How is throwing a random vote onto someone without giving any sort of decent explanation town play? All Oats' vote has done is sow confusion because of how pointless it seems to be - which is scummy. Now if you have actual reasons to vote for someone, and present them to everyone, then discussion can flow from it and we can better assess everyone and get some reads going - but as I said you didn't provide that so have only managed to cause confusion.

So aside from waiting for a decent explanation from Oats, I would like for some other people to actually get involved in the thread, so far discussion has been between a few people and on not a very broad spectrum of topics, neither of which is good for town at this point.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 14:14 GMT
#238
You are still making no sense. You say "how can you have garnered any evidence from that?". I haven't, but you seemed to have because you said it was scummy and put your vote on him...
Still substance-less posting, really wish you would cut it out and start hunting for scum - unless you are scum that is, then just continue posting the way you are.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 15:46 GMT
#243
I get the feeling you are just really twisting things to convince yourself that Cheese is scummy. By that logic you could find scum motive behind every post from any person. I think it is best to go with the simpler explanation though.

a) cheese tries to initiate some conversation with a lighthearted post in a thread that has just started and has nothing to discuss so far

or

b)
On November 26 2012 00:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cheesecake, you completely miss the point about the first post.
I said you are TRYING too hard to be casual and it ends up looking fake. So therefore you are scum trying to gain town image by starting a discussion.
However, the discussion has nothing to do with scum reads and such, it is basically fluff that you want from your questions.
so I think that you are scum because you APPEAR to be helping town when in actual fact, you are putting up a facade.


Argument b is just making way too many assumptions, especially at this point in the game with not much to work with.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 16:40 GMT
#250
On November 26 2012 01:25 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 22:40 Kickstart wrote:
You two seem to be agreeing that you don't think Oats is scum. Can you explain his vote onto cheese then, because he apparently can't provide a decent explanation for it himself.


I take it you have never played scum. The last thing you feel like doing when you're scum is to stumble into the thread and make a terrible case with no evidence, because it'll give you a ton of attention. You can argue whether his posts are anti-town or not. They've started some discussions and a lot of people (well, at least some) are chiming in with opinions etc. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter whether it's anti-town though, I've basically seen no newbies play scum like this (perhaps Kush.


So you view it as a null tell or...? Am at least glad we agree that it is a terrible case with no evidence though. And I just don't think the argument that you have not seen any newbies play like that means anything really, just because you haven't seen it or if it has never been done doesn't mean it can't be. I am however inclined to agree with you that scum wouldn't want to draw attention to themselves but I can't get over how bad his posts were, and they haven't gotten much better.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 16:43 GMT
#251
Anyhow I too am going to get ready to go out so I will be gone for a few hours, I sincerely hope that some people who haven't posted do so while I am gone and that some other people start talking more in the thread other than the handful that have been.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 20:30 GMT
#271
Not to mention the post is just fluff, but I suppose I will forgive that for an introduction post.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 20:35 GMT
#275
In regards to your case on cheesecake SDM, I am personally not a fan of meta cases (they did not go well at all in my last game lol), I am much more interested in a players activity in this game. I have to agree on the point that he has echoed what has already been said in the thread, I just personally think it is a null tell at this point.

Right now I really need to hear more from the people lurking, they've had almost a day at this point to post something of substance and engage in some conversation.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 21:00 GMT
#279
I just haven't had good experience with meta-cases, plus since this is a noobie mini I wonder if there is really enough of a history on any player for a meta case to actually hold much weight. To be fair though I haven't played with any of the people in this game so I would really have to read up on them to formulate an opinion on meta cases unless people pulled extensive posts from the other games - but that is asking a bit much this early imo. That is basically why I said I am more interested in this game, but of course a solid case is a solid case, so if one can be made using someones performance in past games go for it. Interested in reading Cheese defense though.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 21:03 GMT
#281
Was ninja's by cheese! But he basically defended as I thought - how can you make a meta case on someone who only has two game, one as each faction ;/.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 25 2012 21:09 GMT
#282
Lol wow I missed that post from yama, glad you pointed it out SDM because yeah it is suspicious.

@ Yamato77
You saying Cheese doesn't read town is nice and all, but I am more interested (as I think SDM has said (and you better not accuse me of what you accused cheese of SDM!)) in if you read him as scum. Do you have any scum reads at all? As far as I can tell you are just saying you are suspicious of cheese because he said he was suspicious of you....
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 26 2012 01:33 GMT
#307
Right well I am going to go to sleep so won't be on for several hours, I am glad to see that there has been a decent amount of new discussion and hope to find more when I wake up and I will weigh in on everything then and try and find them scum after some well needed rest.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
2025 KFC #10: SC Evolution
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mcanning 105
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 35246
Sea 5358
GoRush 590
ajuk12(nOOB) 117
Leta 89
Movie 45
Sacsri 25
Bale 12
Sharp 5
Zeus 0
Dota 2
XcaliburYe303
League of Legends
JimRising 709
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1268
Other Games
WinterStarcraft550
Mew2King334
NeuroSwarm49
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream2526
Other Games
gamesdonequick717
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH314
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1823
• Stunt591
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 17m
WardiTV Invitational
4h 17m
WardiTV Invitational
4h 17m
PiGosaur Monday
17h 17m
GSL Code S
1d 2h
Rogue vs GuMiho
Maru vs Solar
Online Event
1d 17h
Replay Cast
1d 19h
GSL Code S
2 days
herO vs Zoun
Classic vs Bunny
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Cheesadelphia
4 days
CSO Cup
4 days
GSL Code S
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
2025 GSL S2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.