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On September 15 2012 13:58 Stutters695 wrote: Don't worry. I'll have more time this game so we can switch places from xxvi and I'll be super active and you can lurk then confirm yourself with a vig shot :p. Just don't be like me and shoot the medic. XD Hahah sure thing  | ||
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On September 18 2012 10:48 kushm4sta wrote: I am so fucking sick of lurkers from last game. #1 They make the game shittier regardless of if they are scum. #2 They are 100% null reads all game long. You ask them a question and of course they aren't going to responsd because they post like 1 thing a day and dont even read the thread. #3 It gives scum safe people to accuse. Most of the time they aren't mafia but in the 2 games I played both of them had semi-lurker mafia. Lurker Policy: LYNCH ALL LURKERS, semilurkers at the top of the lynch list if we don't have a very strong scumread to bandwagon. Hey hold up! I have three more days till the midsemester break so just letting you know now I will be (should be{so many assigments}) fairly inactive till then. (first day and night) On September 18 2012 11:11 RemedySC wrote: Lurkers are a minor annoyance sure, but I think just lynching based on lurker status could end up hurting us more so as the game progresses. Lets focus on getting a mafia lynch for the first day. I prefer this approach if we can do it however if we have no solid reads at all then I guess lurker lynching is the way to go.(obviously) Also so many surveys? This always confuses me as to what the point is (much like list making) However I guess I can complete a few... 1. Will you be around for lynch time? It's a little early waking up before 10 is not my strong point but I can set an alarm if it is a crucial lynch mylo lilo 2. How active do you plan on being? Much more active after the first night (game time) But I will have a birthday and will be going out a fair bit. But halfway through day 2 I should become normaly active. 3. How many games have you obsed? One 4. Is this your first game playing? no 5. If not, how many games have you played? 1 6. Is this your first time playing as scum? no? lol On September 18 2012 15:40 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: A good policy, however, is to not answer questions intended for someone else. Whether accusations are valid or not they may induce interesting reactions, so please stop defending other players. Yeah I did this a lot of last game... Turned out to be a bad thing as people often set traps for people to answer, However Sonic happened to be "setting traps" as scum last game so you can't look too far into that. | ||
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*facepalm* ok kush... the only reason you would get night killed is if you contribute to the thread in a meaningful way. Being scared of an Nk will only make you not contribute meaningfully and end up useless. There isn’t much by way of reads to go on yet but because of what’s happened I can list the top suspicions I have. Sonic is here because he is a freaking genius and the whole list thing is always a strange topic. I also can’t help but notice he side mentions me in his post in reply to thrawn. On September 18 2012 16:34 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: You want to accuse me, but you still don't want me to explain? You're not giving my argument a fair representation. I still think lists is a good idea if they're limited to your ~3 top suspects AND include your reasoning. That way it's easy to follow a player's thought process through the thread wrt to his key reads (instead of reads being blended into a wall of text, hi there Jacob). That's what I suggested. And you're suggesting I was hiding behind lists. I never made any long ass lists, which a lot of other players did. While I haven’t seen your town meta I notice you did this all of last game (side mentioning people and not making it obvious you were going at them) and ended up scum. On the flip side (yes I am doing this again) I doubt you would draw this much attention to yourself early considering what happened last game concerning lists. Also the survey while I did it was mostly pointless... unless it was purely designed to trap scum with that last question. (Which while it would be hilarious if it worked is unlikely) Thrawn, Lynch the last person in the thread are you serious? That’s like.... stupid.... even as a way to encourage discussion the likelihood if hitting scum in that scenario would be really low compared to finding people based on reads or even inactivity. It would only create discussion that would be as effective as just picking a random person. As for Drazak and Kush I am still unsure. They OMGUS each other so much it’s insane. (Almost as much as I do...) Admittedly it could be an attempt by kush to stir up trouble so I will have to watch these two closely. (Also I don’t think drazak was a trash town last game I mostly thought he was town until he cracked under pressure) Everyone else I am meh on at the moment. Not enough to go on as most don’t have a meta or have said anything of use. | ||
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 (I guess we will probably know after the first night) However your posting style seems town to me. Just the fact you came up with a long thought out post that appears to make sense at the moment.Continuting to read the thread will comment as I go them probably comment more at the end. I will spoiler my thread rambling so it is easier to read. + Show Spoiler + Wait what? Killing is acting odd. Will get to this later I guess. He seems really in to the votes aren’t permerment and throws them around a lot without much reason... Sonic is going at Debears... and killing jumps on immediately? Heat is on Killing and debears. On September 19 2012 03:27 drazak wrote: Hey bro, I asked him some questions, lets let him answer before we form any opinions. IMO it seems that whenever someone defends osmeone before they answer questions relating to an FOS, it gives them some security and takes the pressure off considerably. Without pressure there's no point in doing an FOS. TBH I think it's kind of funky that you're defending people kush, lets be real here, this is about finding mafia, not making friends  Aww but friends are good! But it is true you should only really search for friends late game when you can have at least one solid town read. On a side note drazak seems to be frustrated however he is frustrated with kush which I can understand. Thrawn points out there might not be an Sk good thing to note. + Show Spoiler + Kush thinks of a scum team day one... oh good he says it is speculation. Sharrant drops the kush case when it seems to not go in his favour. Then votes debears, who is still not conviced debears is mafia. Thrawn calls him out on it, thrawn highly defensive but I know I get defensive of people who defend me as well. (Ok I will leave the read though ramble for a minute) Sharrant looks strange, he is randomly voting for someone who doesn’t seem suspicious to him.. just saying *commence rambling again* + Show Spoiler + Woah! Sharrent goes full out and then gets shut down... Yeah watch sharrent. Now he wants a role claim... I knew this thread would get interesting. Lolz supersoft... Ok I have reached the end of the thread. I am going to stay mostly away from the thrawn kush sonic debacle for the moment it’s not as clear as it should be. FOS Killing And FOS Debears FOS Sharrent Ok killing is acting very strange. I do see his point (alongside Sharrent) about using a vote as a tool not a weapon however he isn’t providing much if any evidence to back up his votes. He is almost talking about reasons for what he does (with Fos and voting) before he does it. Maybe trying to spread confusion in a way that looks town. Last game as town he seemed to be much for active in a useful way at the start of the game however this could be down to time zones and such. Debears, his defence of thrawn is either a scum hold trying to latch himself to a town or a town who is too inexperienced to want to go out with a solid scum read first. Both are plausible I will need more time to work out which is which. However thrawn is very defensive of him so if we do get a flip either by Nk or lynch it might mean something. Sharrent is under suspicion for what I listed in my talk though of the thread however reasons such as Sk suspicions before night 1 voting for people while saying they are not suspicions (scum motivation for this if they flip town) The only question is Would a mafia bring this much attention to themselves? He is playing really aggressively. Also interesting how he says how he would act as a SK and the role claim thing could really only help mafia. However taking a tip from your book... I would be happy to vote sharrent for the moment at least. I will reread the thread when I get back and probably be able to post a bit. In any case I should be able to manage one ok sized post at night. (as well as minor posts in the day as I get time) ##Vote: Sharrent | ||
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However I would disagree with this On September 19 2012 12:00 kushm4sta wrote: ##vote debears I would be open to changing my vote to cubu. Personaly I would lynch killing over cubu as while cubu is lurking more he hasn’t said anything suspicious. (Mainly because he has said nothing at all) Whereas killing said he was writing a post, then went in lurk mode. And voted debears based purely on Sonics post without saying what he agrees with or disagrees with. That said where on earth is stutters? His only post is in regards to kush not wanting to be night killed. Something everyone jumped on. I have to admit that does make him look suspicious considering he said he would be super active pregame. On September 15 2012 13:58 Stutters695 wrote: Don't worry. I'll have more time this game so we can switch places from xxvi and I'll be super active and you can lurk then confirm yourself with a vig shot :p. Just don't be like me and shoot the medic. XD Considering an active lynch is risky (unless someone comes up with a rock solid argument) I want to put the pressure on Stutters in particularly and killing. If both of these suddenly become active in a good way then I will probably either stay on sharrant (although this is getting a little less likely) or cubu (although I really don’t want to considering last game) | ||
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On September 19 2012 13:58 KillingTime wrote: I just woke up - yeah I meant to post more last night but couldn't for irl reasons. Sorry I know that looked bad. Yeah it looks really bad, that said assuming you are mafia you would probably do everything you could to get a post out to avoid this... (as in last night although you would probably also do a post like this anyway) | ||
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So I still have my vote on Sharrant for the moment as I think it is stronger than the debear case. (debear{btw I love that name} case being he has sheeped onto thrawn it seems) However I really want to look at stutters and I want answers from him. First he lurks to the point I forgot he was in the game (literally). Them both his posts are in regard to kush something everyone agreed was stupid. (in other words a safe argument) And he virtually says the same thing both posts. On September 18 2012 16:31 Stutters695 wrote: EBWOP: Instead of coming up with useless excuses for bad play before you've even really started playing. FoS kushm4sta On September 19 2012 15:52 Stutters695 wrote: Why were you honest about this? Telling everyone you're going to avoid getting night-killed so you can maintain a pointless streak serves no purpose from a town perspective. All it does is provide excuses for you for any potential bad play and if you're town waste time on unnecessary discussion. Also as I pointed out before he isn’t really here... considering he said pregame he has lots of time this give me cause for concern. Surely he would talk about the Debear case, the sharrant case (his only mention of this is one line in question to kush) at least to get the discussion rolling... So in other words, stutters looks scummy to me. Oh and one more thing. Cubu, I have no problem policy lynching this guy. Not purely because of policy but he says he is busy with assignments (which I can understand I have my own assignments as well the only reason I am posting this much is because I am addicted to this game -_-) However he made no mention that this would be a problem before the game. Just one more thing but I would only lynch him if I couldn’t be happy with a good scum read. I would also like to note I am not sure what the risk reward cycle sharrant would have is... he posts a lot and seems seriously committed to the game. Because of this for the moment I will actually change my vote to stutters. However without seeing his meta I can’t really say and he could be a committed scum. However my biggest scum read right now is stutters so until further notice I will vote stutters. For transpanancy my biggest scum reads are stutters followed by sharrant so if no stutters lynch is about to go down I will vote sharrant over debear. ##unvote Sharrent ##Vote: Stutters695 | ||
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Why have you not chimed in on the other cases? (I guess because you are lurking derp) and... what do you think of the other cases? | ||
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Oh and don't remind me about the weetee thing... that was probably the worst I have ever been manipulated in my life... I couldn't get over that... So I guess the question to the thread is do we lynch a lurker like cubu (seems to be lurking the most) or go for stutters lurking partly and apears scum (at least to me or go for /debear/sharrant? Both active but suspisious people. I still think stutters because he seems to be lurking and scum but at the moment I seem to be alone in this opinion. | ||
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wow it appears it is all down to Debears/Sharrant at the moment.. I will have to go through both filters in more detail before bed it seems. | ||
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That said. I still want stutters to respond to my questions before. So #FOS Stutters ##unvote Stutters695 ##Vote: Sharrent Also should we update the voting as we go? Debears: 4, Sharrant: 4. Switches: Sharrant from Kushm4sta to debears JacobStrangelove from Sharrent to Stutters695 JacobStrangelove from Stutters695 to Sharrent | ||
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If he is town he will role claim as vanilia town if he is cop or anyother blue role he will role claim as vanilia town if he is mafia he will role claim as vanilia town if he is Serial killer he will role claim as vanilia town... now you mentioned before this means mafia can't change there role late in the game but neither can the blue... Also it's semi open set up we could have two cops as far as I know... (unlikely though) Also saying there is a huge chance of failture seems like allowing yourself a way out of the lynch if it goes go wrong. | ||
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Sharrent whaa? Honestly have a headach right now... (however I will quickly jump to drazak) jumping right into the thread like that is really really odd... That said sharrent switching votes mid post because of it has me confused. Without momentum at least. I wouldn’t put serial killer past him considering he brought it up. I can kinda understand you if you are mason but... I can see what you are trying to do (use town cred to get yourself a lynch{I did this last game}) but it’s far too early in the game to even attempt that. Without a bread crumb that is significant I don’t understand how this is supposed to work. For sure if you have a mason partner he can’t claim but if you are mafia you could be using the many mason groups argument to your own advantage. Switching over to killing case I can see how he fits lurker scum but also I don’t think he is more scum than stutters or drazak. | ||
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