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WeeTee
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WeeTee
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Its morning in Australia and I will be able to post from this time onwards mostly. The lurker lynch seems like a good idea to get ppl into discussion but careful we might just be in weird time zones to the rest of you all!! Thrawn you intimidate me with your confidence already, but I think that you'll be good to learn the game from! | ||
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WeeTee
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I might elaborate that I disagree with the Lurker policy in part because it establishes a guideline for the scum to act upon, this is a Newbie game so as long as people are trying to participate I will not be basing any votes on Lurking at least for the first day. On August 24 2012 09:14 Shady Sands wrote: Ok Lvdr, you were the last one in, and I know you're an experienced player, so I'm going to ask you for a scum read now. Who do you read as scummy based on their posts so far, and why? Shady mentioned that you had experience in the game already so could you analyse some of the content at a better standard than 'you didn't write much'. Help us all get the ball rolling! | ||
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WeeTee
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But then damn you meta comes into play! In my opinion Shady is neither town or scum. | ||
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WeeTee
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Thinking about the meta is retarded so I wont speculate aloud any more. On me and my style, clearly i'm not as precise as some of you but there's no reason that everyone must conform to full fledged suspicions. Having a few cents is an influential position in any social scene. Perhaps I will blossom with content when I see a read that I believe and something more than the pokes and prods i'm getting. | ||
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WeeTee
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I have read through the current content, and every ones filters. It seems to me that everyone has taken a disliking to kushm4sta's quote "Lvdr is 85 percent mafia in my mind though. We should lynch him." Even for a newbie like me I was like .... But I think that a real scum wouldn't reveal information in this clumsy manner and I know i'm not directing any suspicion there as kush is too easy of a target to pick off. I did however notice that Alsn did put a FOS on Kush; to me this seems like Alsn nibbled at the bait, sensing his opportunity to take a weak player down. On August 24 2012 11:33 Alsn wrote: (Emphasis mine) I like that you are starting to contribute to the discussion. I don't, however, agree with your conclusion. If you look at the following post(long, so spoilered it): + Show Spoiler + On August 24 2012 09:34 thrawn2112 wrote: If it comes down to voting for a strong scumread and one of several lurkers, I'd rather go with the scumread. Being too focused on lurkers caused me to play poorly in my last game. If I make a strong case against a player I am definitely going to vote for them. Excluding that, lynching a lurker is the backup plan. Your experience of how mafia players lurk during newbie games is something I don't have so I don't share your commitment to a flat out "only lynch a lurker during D1" plan. I don't think that "worst outcome of lurking is to not get lynched" but I don't think that D1 is the time to do it. Of course there are always exceptions...such as the player who has 4 posts at the end of D1, he's sheeping the popular cases, and never offers any original reasoning for his votes. But yeah, hopefully lurking won't be an issue. I expect all this talk about lurker policy will help achieve that. And this disagreement isn't that big of an issue to me, because if I have a case worth lynching someone over then it should be a strong enough case to convince everyone else. That post also caught my eye and I suggested that he comment on the current discussion but so far there's been nothing. Kush it's not too big a deal this early on but the longer you wait the worse it's going to look. In this post thrawn argues with Lvdr about the lyrker lynch policy and makes clear and concise arguments and in fact comes to the conclusion that the policy post did it's job in that it put focus on starting discussion. Something which is good for town. You then immediately jump to the conclusion that he must be scum that wants to look like town. I feel this is overly aggressive on your part and while it's entirely possible that you are just feeling attacked right now and reacting a bit emotionally, please understand that things are not personal. If you are in fact a townie trying to cast blame on someone you suspect as scum, you should use clearly articulated points with a clear explanation of the basis of your argument. So until you prove to me otherwise, I feel I must suspect you for being overly defensive about your posting. FoS kushm4sta I will put a FoS on Alsn for this But it is undeniable that kushm4sta is rubbing everyone the wrong way. Let me know what you think about Alsn Fos-ing Kush, Does Alsn see an easy opportunity to take someone out? and why is he the only one that chirped up for the obvious? | ||
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WeeTee
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I like you response verrry smooth. I must have started writing before you posted so sorry for that. Are you willing to say that kush is in the clear then? or do you think there is something underlying still? I guess throwing around FoS can mean next to nothing, especially if you change your mind so fast. I wonder now you have stopped leading the bandwagon if someone will pick it up again. Kush is an easy target. | ||
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WeeTee
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@dandel I'm not interested in your negativity. I'm simply making my point. My first quote had my message "I did however notice that Alsn did put a FOS on Kush; to me this seems like Alsn nibbled at the bait, sensing his opportunity to take a weak player down." I see my mistake in saying "the only one that chirped up", which thrawn just pointed out. please disregard that comment. Still I find it amazing how instead of just answering a question we need to nit pick. Super encouraging. | ||
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WeeTee
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Id love to see where the discussion goes over the next few hour because i'm not convinced on anyone as of yet. We need some new POI. | ||
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WeeTee
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I am always busy and think the content you guys put up is (sometimes)utter crapola. Im glad that iv been called out so that I can comment. I have no reads on anyone at the moment and am happy for any outcome of the first day to happen. I have trouble articulating what I want to say so I might be brash enough to put my #FoS on thrawn, because he just never ever places a FoS and is always non committal. I know I make a target of myself for being clumsy but for me to participate and get better i'm going to have to ignore the criticism I get and just put it out there. Continuing on with my FoS its clear that thrawn is so active, probably overactive in the sense. I have a case that chugging the bandwagon against me is a well timed push, experienced even. Building a case on me in my absence based on the fact that I am absent is not convincing enough to suspect me, if it was then a FoS is surely sufficent. Yet I recieved a vote from thrawn. Just over the top imo. I urge you all to read thrawns filter and see how passive his playstyle is. And then make up your minds. | ||
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WeeTee
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Make a real case for gosh sake, now ur clearly FoSing me for the sake of it. You can make all the fluff you want about me, Im not scared because if you mess up this will be the point where those in day 2 can suspect you. The push against me is weak at best please everyone reiterate the reasons why you want me suspected and you will see im just being baited out by thrawn. id go as far to say hunted, I know my role in this game so #FoS thrawn still stands shady really.. if your intelligent you wouldn't join this bandwagon too | ||
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WeeTee
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I really want to make an effort to improve my posts to a higher level, I certainly don't want to fall into this path that I am heading down. I don't believe my actions display any anti town behaviors other than my incompetence, and I also think that in someways if I were scum that I would be more obviously bad in that negative direction. This I will en devour to improve. The reason I had a read on thrawn being scum is that he didn't put a FoS on anybody during the D1 period(except for agree with other FoS's), and I was willing to begin a case on that. However after thrawn voted for me out of the blue I was concerned that he was using his credibility to vote for me when he could have potentially pinned anyone he wanted. Why me? Why risk his town credibility for a result that he cannot be sure about and a result I can assure should get you suspected if i'm lynched. And it really was a risk I mean a VOTE is more powerful than a FoS in my opinion. @shady On August 25 2012 13:19 Shady Sands wrote: So... you are FoSing Thrawn because he doesn't FoS anyone else and is therefore noncommital? But he just voted you. My read on thrawn was looking in a different direction to the what the group is discussing, It was an observation that I made and wanted to elaborate for some extra input, much like any of the content so far. As I mentioned above I was building to the case and just lacked the confidence to make it at this point. I can see my timing was all off. I think it could be worth noting that thrawn certainly did go hard in by voting. To me this is why my case has substance. Thrawn's Quote: "You having not posted recently had nothing to do with my case against you, it was entirely about your actions while you were posting. On that note, you still have not answered the question that I've asked you over and over again." This quote cements that your case about me is based on my quality, and I really hope to improve my posting and ask that I am not target anymore based on this if I improve. The action of not putting a read on shady for you thrawn is that I can't formulate a good read, I am not sure if I have permission to decline but I can assure you that I will have a look and examine it and post more for a better result. | ||
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WeeTee
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That you still are suspicious of me even though Kush was in a similar situation to me earlier; and has a lot more compelling and confusing mess associated. You decided that I am more likely to be vote worthy, even with my best efforts to try harder. I know that the idea of throwing votes around make you look scummy as ever, but consider that I roll town after you lead the lynch on me. I think it wise that although I have met your suspicions you change your path to either a no lynch based on little evidence or reconsider earlier targets. Once again I use my previous post as reference to my non willingness to give you a read. I'm just not sure on D1 of my first game. This will be my last post before waking up before the lynch. In my opinion thrawn is the only one that should be pushing for my lynch because he is committed to it, at risk of not being a vote changer he really has no choice. If I get lynched than thrawn you can take top priority as scum. I honestly don't see my scum motivations, I'm struggling to figure out what motivations look like. I don't believe that anyone else thinks I am more guilty than Kush and even kush mentioned: "To other people in the thread let me just say that being a bad poster doens't make you mafia. Nothing about WeeTee screams mafia to me. He is just acting kind of like a defensive ass." Both of us have clearly have underdeveloped skills and are trying to make amends. I want to vote for thrawn because he has attacked me and I want to point out that if he leads me to the lynch he has scum all over him. BUT he has to hold a stance on something or risk being this "wishy washy" term that being used. I can't fully justify my reasons for him to be scum, I know my play has been bad. So I wont be voting to lynch him. Instead i'm kicking off my vote for Kush's defensive play, which is impossible to read. I'd rather it just be out in the open what he is playing at, then to speculate. Please Read my posts to give me a fighting chance is all I ask. ##VOTE: kushm4sta | ||
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WeeTee
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Slow typing is not going to help this cause. The only reason I haven't put the reads out shady asked is because I just can't be sure. He mentioned I didn't address it, but I have. Obviously none of your read my posts even though you have suspected me so heavily. Causing confusion being a sign of scum is my position on Kush because he confused the life out of me with revealing role - which I didn't even know was allowed. This is a stupid and idiotic lynch based on once again bad posting. If I get lynched at least analyse my posts later on to determine who was the cause of the miss lynch. Because it sucks to know you aren't reading them the way I understand them. | ||
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WeeTee
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I do not mean shady in the first instance it should read. thrawn by way of shady. | ||
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WeeTee
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A miss lynch seems so much more appropriate in these times and this is his bandwagon. Well played sir | ||
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