EPTthird and last newb game. I'd prefer a deadline time in the 18:00-20:00 EST range.
Newbie Mini Mafia XVI
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s0Lstice
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third and last newb game. I'd prefer a deadline time in the 18:00-20:00 EST range. | ||
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s0Lstice
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On June 07 2012 04:09 Nova_Terra wrote: Just to let you know, i believe you have 4 newbie games (game is open to those with 3 or less games already played in) I've played in Newb Minis XIV and XV, nothing else. That said, I'd bow out in favor of someone who hasn't played before if it gets to that. | ||
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for getting paid leave from work so he can play mafia | ||
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Anyway, I'm glad to see some friendly faces, and I'm glad to have the opportunity to again hunt scum. I have one piece of advice which I hope will be helpful and also get the discussion going. Go after your reads strongly, but do not tunnel. Constantly take the temperature of the thread, consider outside input, and don't spend all your time arguing with one target. The back and forth quickly turns into OMGUS, and makes both you and your target look bad. Make your case, read the defense, and then look for that outside input. | ||
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s0Lstice
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Tunneling is a slippery slope. While you are doing it, you can go past the point of 'within reason' and not even know it. All I'm urging is caution. A case is can quickly be ruined, the cogent points buried, by bickering and arguing with your target. And yea, everyone needs to un-shut-up. It's my sock he is using, and it's hella dirty. | ||
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s0Lstice
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People not talking is something to talk about, obviously. What do you think of my comments on tunneling? | ||
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That said, everyone should make their best effort to do so. This is a small game, and a majority will be hard to come by if people aren't around. KtheZ, your suggestion to look for activity around vote time is correct but also obvious. Absences will be noted, and factored into reads where applicable. On to the next thing... Every game I've played in has had lurkers, and they really shit up the game. We need to decide if, in absence of a clear majority, we pursue a lurker policy lynch. This is extra important in this game, because mislynches are extra deadly when the player field is small. My opinion is that if we have no worthy cases, a policy lynch is better than risking a no-lynch no lynch. | ||
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Lynching lurkers is still risky, but the chance of hitting scum is definitely there. As I said, the stakes are high, as every mislynch is painful. If the lurker in question flips green, then at least we have rid ourselves of a useless townie. This is why I still advocate it. People who are talking give us content to work with, and in the absence of a compelling case, we could do a lot worse than lynching a crappy townie/maybe get lucky hitting scum. That said, it's a worst case scenario. The onus is on us to smoke out the scum so we don't have to resort to the policy lynch. | ||
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s0Lstice
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There has been some stuff said on policy. People who haven't posted yet should post their thoughts on what was discussed. I want to be done with this policy stuff sooner rather than later. Also, I want to hear what others think of Release and grush. My opinion is that Grush's comment on having nothing to talk about was weird as hell. Release has done the talking here so I won't repeat. Grush, I will be watching to see what you do when there's more content to work with. | ||
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Now I want to talk about ha236 Let's look at his post on grush and LazerMonkey. On June 09 2012 23:09 ha236 wrote: As a first time player I probably would have made the same mistake grush did (I don't know if this is his first time but w/e) and say that there is nothing to talk about on the first day, but as Release said that obviously puts us in a bad situation when no one is posting at all. Also the content of grush's posts has been pretty lackluster but again, seeing as this is a noob-game I think that's something we have to expect. This is a soft defense of grush, based on the sentiment that a first time player makes mistakes, yet you don't care enough to check if this really is his first game? How is that 'w/e' when your defense of him relies on qualifying the mistakes he is making as first time player mistakes? Then you talk about LaserMonkey.. On June 09 2012 23:09 ha236 wrote: After this discussion ended we tasted some new blood in the thread - Lazermonkey and Zen man. While not being able to get a good "read" on any of you two (you not having posted much yet) some of Lazermonkey's comments on the Release-grush discussion seemed strange to me. He does not say that it is "fine if people lurk". My interpretation of the sentances is that he does not know what to post about and then proposes the subject of why people are not posting and offers his explanation (being that the game just started, people might not be by the computer and even if they are they may be watching MLG). In this paragraph Lazermonkey is trying to make the rest of us believe that grush said something he has not, that he is "suspicious of people not posting". Grush says he "wouldn't be surprised if the two mafia are in those lurkers" and from this Lazermonkey believes him to have a town read on the rest of the posters at that time. Lastly, I like the way Lazermonkey explained his stance on lurkers (two different kinds) however I don't think you can justifiably apply the one about posting stuff with no actual content so early on in the game and I ultimately agree that grush has been changing his stance on whether it is good or not to lynch lurkers. Very loud contradiction. If Lazermonkey's comments are strange then why are you agreeing with them? Why did you defend grush if you think Lazermonkey has something there? ##FoS: ha236 | ||
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Lazermonkey, same question. | ||
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sharing your opinions is fine, even if that opinion is "i'm not sure on him yet." You however did a play by play of Lazermonkey....kicking it off with how you felt his posts looked strange, continued to build a sort-of case?, and then agreed with his findings. Your thoughts are a problem because they contradict themselves. I'm pretty much convinced that you are the perfect candidate for us to lynch D1. ##Vote:ha236 | ||
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s0Lstice
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The only thing in his filter that raises my eyebrows is the 'nothing to talk about' post. The rest is neutral mostly, because it's OMGUS tit for tat defense against Release. I want to see what he does when he doesn't spend every free minute defending himself. | ||
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s0Lstice
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I will be pushing his lynch, but I will not do so at the expense of the majority. If I get traction, good. If not, then I will wait on ha236 to insure the day 1 lynch. | ||
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