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VisceraEyes
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On June 02 2012 06:50 marvellosity wrote: looks nice, looking forward to observing X( | ||
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VisceraEyes
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I will ensure that I incure NO penalty from the moderator due to my actions or inactions in this thread, including official warnings, modkills and (to the best of my ability) even in-thread warnings. Furthermore, I vow to follow all rules and regulations set forth in the OP. By signaling my intention to play this game, this I do swear. | ||
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I am a Miller! What does this mean? First and most importantly, it means that I am a "townie" and win with Town. I'm not a "traitor" who wins with scum, or a "survivor" who wins with whomever, I'm a Miller and despite what our DTs may tell us later, I win with Town. Now, I don't expect you to just take my word for it: I expect you to keep a very close eye on me and lynch the FUCK out of me if it looks like I'm pushing Mafia objectives…but I don't expect that to be a problem because I'm going to be very actively pushing TOWN objectives. However, what I propose is that we do NOT waste DT checks on me. Why? Because all it will do is confirm what I've told you just now - that a DT check will return a guilty result. What I propose you do is hold me to a higher standard than others when considering my lynch. Not an impossible standard - I DO want to live long enough to help find some scum…but a higher standard than others you consider for lynch in regard to content and clarity. In return, I promise to be as open and honest with my reads and thoughts as possible, while simultaneously trying to consolidate my own posts for maximum thread readability. So there you have it! I'm a Miller! What do you think about THAT, town? I'm actually a little excited because finally I don't have a freaking BLUE role to ruin. ^^ | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On June 05 2012 07:33 furerkip wrote: Wait, are you serious? You just claimed Miller and said that DT shouldn't check on you because you are Miller... Judging from your ending, you said you've played this game before. To me, that strikes me as a really odd way to just spout out "I'm miller, and you'll get a guilty on me if you check me, so don't check me, OH and by the way, I'd like to make sure you guys realize that my opinion is more important than anyone else's because I'm officially a clear because I just claimed so. And also, I'm not claiming BLUE, just as reminder, I'm a Miller so investigating me will always turn up as a negative result for you." If you were really a Miller and had game experience, why wouldn't you just make yourself seem more of a townie? If anything, with gameplay experience, you should be able to have seen games were Millers play correctly and don't scream "I'm a Miller." I would have called this a dumbtell, since I sincerely doubt Mafia would just do this. But fact is, your whole post is made to seem like you are a Miller, and a simple "I claim Miller" would have sufficed. But you went above and beyond that: you wanted to have town not even try to examine you unless, as you said, "I expect you to keep a very close eye on me and lynch the FUCK out of me if it looks like I'm pushing Mafia objectives…", which can be translated to "not at all" because Mafia will never try to make it obvious that they are Mafia. ##Vote VisceraEyes Pushing mafia objectives =/= being obvious scum friend, I don't know where you've been playing. Town should be keeping a super-close eye on me regardless of what I'm doing, exactly because of this claim. I'm not trying to "avoid examination", I'm trying to make the most of our DT checks. Are you saying that it would be beneficial to town somehow to "confirm" my claim by checking me only to lynch me later for me to flip exactly what I said I would? Is that what you're trying to achieve here? Having DT's actually check me? Because it seems like an awful waste to me, especially since your first reaction to the claim was "KILL IT!!!"...like, if all it's going to take is an off word or two to send me through the shredder, then why the hell WOULD a DT check me? Anyway, I'm open to suggestions as to how to handle it - I gave my suggestion. | ||
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On June 05 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote: Ah where would we be without a hilarious/bad VE claim? On a more serious note, given that he's either lying scum OR actually a miller, there's no reason for a DT to check him-- whether he's lying or telling the truth the result is the same. Thank you. So which camp are you in BH? Hilarious or Bad? Because I think this is probably the best way to handle Miller right now. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On the one hand the suggestion that getting rid of "retarded townies" is somehow beneficial to town is blatantly anti-town and at worst indicative of furerkip pushing a mafia agenda. However, newer players get it in their mind somehow that the actions of townies can damage town somehow worse than the very real consequence of their death, which is shortening the game. Town's aim needs to be lengthening the game, not shortening it. That's why we aim for scum every single lynch, because every scum lynch increases the number of days the game lasts. What gets me the most about furerkip is the fact that he is operating under the assumption that we're clear to "kill a retarded townie" under the assumption that we have "1 Mislynch we can work with". It's in this post... On June 05 2012 07:37 furerkip wrote: On another note as to why I think VisceraEyes should be lynched, is because if there are 4 mafia, and 12 players, then we have 1 Mislynch we can work with, which is fine to use on retarded townies. That's just my belief when I play though. Anyone want to add anything? ...I don't understand the motivation behind this post. Like, as a townie, I'm not thinking in terms of how many townies we can kill before it's game over. I'm thinking in terms of killing scum. I aim for killing scum with the lynch, and so the number of townies "we can safely kill before LYLO" isn't even a concern to me because that number increases every lynch by my expectation, not decreases. However, all of that being said, I can see him being a newer town not really knowing what's best for town, yet acting like he does to try and establish his innocence, which IS a mark in his favor where I'm concerned. Also it doesn't make sense for scum to be so brashly antagonistic so early in the game, though I am NOT ruling it out. Ultimately, I'd be interested to see what furerkip has to say about people other than me before coming to a conclusion about where I think he's coming from. Obviously my view is skewed of him right now because his only act in the game has been attacking me. What does everyone else think about furerkip? His stance on my claim is a pretty good one to discuss, what are your thoughts on his interpretation of my claim? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Many of you have played with her before and know how frustrating not being able to determine her alignment can be. I submit Katina as our fall-back lynch unless she's able to satisfactorily contribute to today's discussion. @Katina Don't look at it as me trying to kill you. Look at it as me trying to get you to post. But keep in mind that I will try and kill you if you don't. ^^ | ||
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I'm also suspicious of ghost. Again, very wishy-washy and very non-committal. Although he seems to be aware of what's happening, he's very absent. He claims to buy my claim, but is content to discuss it ad nauseum. | ||
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##Vote: ghost_403 I think I should point out however that he could just be lazy townie in this instance, but based on what we've pointed out here I think he's got a good enough chance of flipping scum to lynch. Who else is down with a ghost lynch? PEdit: Welcome Katina! I'm not scum, don't be silly! Could you expand on why playing "normally" is a scumtell please? | ||
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Blzinghand would you perchance have drawn a mafia role this time my brother? | ||
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What do you think about Zentor Katina? Like Pandain, I'm having problems with how he's posting and I think I'd like your opinion as well. | ||
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##Unvote: ghost_403 ##Vote: Blazinghand | ||
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Blazinghand, ghost_403, MrZentor BH for his change in style and his lack of scumhunting, ghost and Zentor because their tones seem indicative of wishy-washy scum. I'd like to hear more from furerkip, considering he's still voting for me and hasn't done any scumhunting outside of basically just calling me a liar for no reason, but I think he's more likely town than the people I just listed. | ||
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On June 06 2012 07:01 Blazinghand wrote: MrZ why don't you think I'm scum BH really? This is all you have to say to the accusations against you? | ||
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Now, did you miss Katina's post that tells a very different tale of Ghost's typical town-play? I'm about to go back and find which is the truth, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on Katina if you please BH. | ||
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