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oneplus
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Finally I have the time to read up the thread and start my posts: 1) I think this is the trend for the game to lynch lurker in D1 because most of the people here will agree lurker is a scum or badtown so we lose nothing to lynch them out. What if everyone is active and no lurker is around then we might consider no lynch in D1 or lynching the most suspicious person to gain most information from the others. @Mutant, he stated that it is balanced around not killing scum day 1, this only balance when we mislynch a townie in day1 what if we mislynch a vig? doc? or DT? It would be a big disadvantage to the town. 2) About the yumi and maju case both of them can be townie accusing each other because we don't have sufficient evidence to support either of them yet. It could be a scam accsuing a town too hence we need to more disscussion. | ||
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oneplus
Malaysia34 Posts
But I don't think Yomi is scum because it's simply too dangerous for scum to act in such way, high chance he will be lynch if he randomly target someone in this case who is Maju. For me it looks like scumhunt more than scum. 2) Zealots is pretty much a 1 liner who doesn't really contribute anything yet, he is a decent vote at the moment. 3)Well everyone has posted something but they didn't say much they just say lynch someone which could be suspicious such as dracolich and insecto we might need more from them. 4)Inmallinson just pointed out he's a mafia last game is this intentionally? hmm... | ||
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It's all good to read other players past games but it is really bad to use the past information to convince people in the current one. You has also started to bring your previous game information into this one where you had voted yomi as one of the evidence to vote yomi. @Yomi, I am strongly against the use of past history to determine the game play for current one because it's not fair, you are trying to convince us with your previous game play which doesn't make sense and making you suspicious. I don't think you are a scum from voting Maju but the way you want everyone to bring out history has made me lost my confidence on you. You might be a town but I don't think you use the correct way for scumhunt when it's too much. @Zealos, You are the most suspicious here because you are a 1 liner, you didn't contribute anything yet. Although there is no concrete evidence on you which proven you to be a scum but what have you contribued so far? On April 24 2012 02:12 Zealos wrote: Oh, and, I am happy to respond to case's against me, but at the moment I can't see any. All I see is people posting lots of other people's names and then going on to tell town what they've done so far in the game. It doesn't help. We can read. It seems like it's gonna be pretty hard to find the mafia team when there's so many people posting terribly. Saying this kind of demotivation post aren't helping, you will just make more people go against you. If you are a town I hope you can come out with some statement which is presuasive enough and stop defending yourself with more 1 line post. | ||
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oneplus
Malaysia34 Posts
Maju, suspecting someone who is not defending you is not a good town play. | ||
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oneplus
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After filtering and reread few times, i am still not convinced that you made a strong case of defending yourself. instead of mentioning that someone is suspcicious, you instantly use prhases like scum/most scummy to describe a response. On April 24 2012 20:24 Zealos wrote: Then, as a responce to an accusation, he attacks the very fact that someone accused him, as opposed to arguing the point This is one of the most Scummy first day's I've seen in my 3 games so far. It seems like you're trying to try to instantly link the "scum" word into someone, and this is suspicious to me. ##Vote Zealos | ||
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oneplus
Malaysia34 Posts
Our lovely townie yomi is dead and he did come out to prove his innocent in the few hours before the deadline, this is very sad for me as no one has come out and change his mind about voting on yomi. I guess among the 7 who has voted for yomi we will have 2 scum and the rest of 4 who didnt go for yomi we have 1 scum inside because I don't think 3 of them will be targeting yomi together this is abit too risky for the scum. Also there is a possibility of 1 among the 7 and 2 among the 4 which is less lightly to happen. Lets have a summarize for 7 of them who voted for yomi: insectoceanx - He is the one who made this lynched successful as he change his vote from Zealos to yomi in the last 20 minutes because "he want to see yomi is town or not" This change in the last minute make him look so scummy and suspicious. But if he is red, he already knew that yomi will flip green soon yet he is still doing it which is a very risky play from the mafia. Yes this is risky but not impossible so he is still in the scum list. Hold on, he is coming out to make an explanation of himself right after 7 mins the lynched is happened which he think zealos is still the most suspicious one. This is not convincing at all because you are trying to point finger at the no.2 scum list after the no.1 scumlist has lynched. Also, he is your previous vote. He did say that immalinson is abit suspicious and Maju is hard to read without much elaboration. So what is his purpose of this? Hopefully make someone got target next before him? On April 25 2012 10:38 insectoceanx wrote: Let's hear some more from the lurkers in the thread on the next day. I guess we shall see if yomi is town or not. ## unvote ## vote yomi MajuGarzett - He got chosen by Yomi randomly in the beginning which I think is kinda bad luck for him because we don't have a good reason for this. Now yomi is out and i had reread maju filter for a few times. Maju has been playing defensively as he is keep asking yomi what is the reason behind of voting him, most of his posts are reply to yomi or replying to those who are questioning him, if you guys realise he hasn't really contribute much yet other than defensive himself. He is trying to narrow down his conversation to a few people which look a bit scummy because as a scum you don't want to expose too much about yourself and you want to make fren with the town. Maju is trying to convince nreekay and insect to change their vote on yomi in an hour before the deadline. On April 25 2012 09:45 MajuGarzett wrote: @nreekay and insect Both of you have had suspcions about yomi previously. Though I suspect Zealos of being scum as well, are either of you willing to change your vote to yomi? I voted yomi as I think that yomi's actions were indicative of mafia play while for Zealos it seemed to be more a lack of opinionated contribution for a good while. In my opinion yomi's mafia like actions were better evidence. 18 minutes after the lynched, he is the second one after insectoceanx who come out and apologize to yomi as he flipped green. And he has less suspicious on Zealos now which is the opposite of insectoceanx who feel zealos is still the most suspicous one. Immallinson is now his top candidates for mafia. Mutant- Well he voted for yomi because he think that yomi is pointless one-liner which i kinda agree until the last few hours before the deadline where yomi has started to contribute. Hence I don't see a strong reason for Mutant to vote yomi yet. Mutant has stated he haven't really wanted to discuss his other lynches yet and he won't list out his reads on everyone. I think it's time for you to voice up. On April 24 2012 02:06 mutant wrote: It's pretty much nothing but pointless one-liners. And please, don't answer my questions with more one-liners. ##Vote: yomi Immalinson- He has only 2 posts so far and his 2nd has posted pretty late. His act is kind of following the trend which put yomi as top candidates and zealos for second which could not give us a good read about him. The main reason of voting yomi is the random aggressiveness of yomi towards anyone calling him out on it makes him much more suspicious. Also, the asking of everyone to post their previous game make immalinson feel strange and thinking that yomi is trying to act he is contributing but actually not, I have to agree with this. As you agreed yomi is not scummy yet you still go for him because he is a bad town play ? On April 25 2012 04:01 imallinson wrote: This has been mentioned by everyone else and seems to be the main reason for people voting for him. While I agree that it makes no sense I don't think it makes him scummy. Honestly I can't see a reason why scum or town would jump on someone so early. Given just this post I'd put it down to bad play. However the random aggressiveness towards anyone calling him out on it makes me much more suspicious. Bear in mind Immalinson did bring out he and yomi are both scummate in the previous game. Also he think that I am abit scummy because i didnt say anything concrete. On April 23 2012 19:09 imallinson wrote: I'm not sure what to think of Yomi at the moment. He is posting in the same erratic way as last game, where we were both scum St.Daniel- He has some arguement with dream but he don't think dream is a scum and even if he is, there is not enough evidence to make a case. And lastly he voted for yomi. Looks like a lurker but I think he is too busy to post over here so nothing much to say about him since he has replaced by Gossemer. ArcticFox- A town read for me so far, as he is one of them who contributed the most so far. Also he is asking everyone to create a notepad file which will be useful for everyone. He is very active during the deadline and eager to persuade someone who are willing change their vote so a lynched will occur, it seem like he doesn't matter is Zealos or Yomi. Well i couldn't be disagree on this because he want to move a further step after lynching someone we will have more to discuss. His main reason on voting yomi it's WIFOM. ArcticFox do suspect both zealos and yomi because they don't suspect each others while they are on top of the list but now yomi has flipped green so what do you think about zealos? The only thing i feel abit suspicious about ArcticFox is he is too active at the deadline which could be either way. As a town he don't want a mislynch to happen. As a scum he want to lynch some townie instead of no-lynch. ForTheDr3am- Also a town read for me, his conversation is mainly with Dracolich70 where dream wants to emphazise that highlighting is scummy / pointless which I am agree with. And it make like you are contributing but actually not. Also dream couldn't get a satisfied answer from draco. Basically there are some useful statement and creative writing in both of their conversation. The reason dream go for yomi is that he think that randomly voting from someone without proper explanation don't help anyone and it will offer mafia a free bandwagon which has already happened in yomi lynch. | ||
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oneplus
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On April 26 2012 06:57 ForTheDr3am wrote: @oneplus: You, too, take yomi's flip as cornerstone by only analyzing the people who voted for him, with apparently similar intentions to nreekay. I already gave my thoughts about that, and am particularly surprised that you don't give your thoughts on Zealos despite having voted for him. In first place, you basically said he was scummy for trying to say that people are scummy, which is an awkward explanation and something I'd ask you to clarify for me too. Well since it's daytime now, I guess it's time to give my thoughts on those who didn't go for yomi. I am back to this again and I think this is very highly possible which is around 80-90% true. we have 2 scum in the 7 who go for yomi and 1 scum among the 4 who is not going for yomi. And nreekay is dead consequently there left Zealos, Draco and myself. The chances of getting a scum is quite positive here which is 33.3% and for myself I know that I am a townie so my vote will be between zealos and draco which is 50% chance correct. If there is a vigilante in this game i hope we would lynch one of them out ( if he flipped green ) we will shoot another which would probably be red. If we lynch a red then it would be great the vig could save his bullet for better used. I wish everyone would come in and participate in this discussion as we have enough evidence to so solve this and lead the town to the victory. Why would I say so? Because when we are force to lynch among 3 of us we will see how would his scummate act when we have to lynch their scummate. Either protecting them ? or trying to lynch their scummate to gain the confident from the town. Of course 3 of us will have better information compare to others because we know our OWN role! Hence we should explain more about this agenda. We have a similiarity among Draco and Zealos both of them are voting for Maju in Day1. If both of them flipped green I will be no.1 scumlist for everyone but I doubt are they going to flipped green. IF one of them flipped red Maju will be in my no.1 scum because they are trying to vote for their scummate in day1 to gain the confident from the town since yomi vote is way higher than everyone else so which is nearly impossible to miss lynch their scum mate. Lets talk about guessing what role we have inside this setup, nreekay has flipped medic so I assume we at least have a vig or a cop left. If there is a cop he might find out something last night and have slightly more information hence he could analyze this out better than anyone of us. But role claiming isn't a good choice here because the medic has died he couldn't protect the vig/cop anymore. SO I hope the blue role can be helping here secretly. On April 26 2012 08:36 ArcticFox wrote: oneplus -- As mentioned already, his only contributions have been a defense of yomi (while mentioning that he's acting like scum, but still calling him town), followed by a summary post. It's a bunch of useless throwaway while trying to say "I don't fluff my posts," while doing nothing but making a single fluff post in the last 24 hours. This guy reeks of scum right now. Well Arctic IF you are a town I think you would love my post here, Also arctic strike me hard as a town as he is the only one who suspect me the most and put me inside his scumlist. Why? We have a townie and a medic dead. Which is an advantage for the scum. And I don't think scum would be that aggresive when they are in a leading position. On April 26 2012 15:46 mutant wrote: oneplus - He seems to be setting himself up as one of the noble few who believed in yomi. His recent summary post doesn't strike my as fluffy as Arctic thinks it is, though his reads on everyone seems to be pretty bad. Everyone he lists is either "scummy" or "I think townie, but are they actually scum?" I'm confused by this: I voted for yomi because his behavior was anti-town. You agree that he was posting pointless one-liners, but didn't see a strong reason for me to vote for him yet? I would love some clarification on this. I agree that yomi is a pointless one-liner in the earliest part of the game but I don't agree that he is a scum. He is just a random townie who is trying to scumhunt in a bad way for me. I think he should retract earlier and not waited until like last 2 hours before the deadline. | ||
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I know that we have scum outside 3 of us but I would like to put them aside first and hunt down the 1st scum which is either Zealos or Draco. I hope you can think from the evidence and mathematical way instead of only analyzing post. Also I emphasize so hard that Zealos and Draco we have 1 of them as scum and you tell me no one is in my scum list. I seriously wan to kill myself now. You are so town for me so I hope that you can work this out with me. I argue that If zealos flipped green Draco is red and vice versa! not the guy who flipped town is a town. Discussion of blue role is always an important issue and pretty useful in a semi open setup because we want the vig to shoot the correct target and cop to check who is guilty but not who is innocent! Please think about the setup and the possibility! I am still having the same stand as day1, Zealos is still my most decent vote. As I cant see any urge on him which want town to win so badly As we can see this from ArcticFox he want to bring out posts so badly. Zealos is always so cool and calm like never get emo even when people pointing at him. Everyone know Arctic and Dream are the 2 who posts the most so by quoting they are solid poster , town read is not contributing at all because EVERYONE of us know this. We want some discussion to go around and not only what we thought about others, If everyone come out and posts alot mean they are pro-town and those who are not so good at creative writing is scum then we have tons of scum vs few townie in this game. I am saying that we lynch zealos or draco, and I got ignored. | ||
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@Arctic, You are my no.1 favourite townread. Mind to explain why Immallinson is a better lynch than zealos? ##Vote: Zealos | ||
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My current scum read ----> Draco/Zealos and another one is Insectoceanx Maju and dream if you are town please cooperate to get 1 of them. | ||
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