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Blulightz I'm coming for you! I will not be modkilled Never have been never will :p | ||
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On March 17 2012 10:04 Bluelightz wrote: IT MEH! Well I see you are continuing your passion for not making sense. Good luck with that. | ||
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## Destroy Toad_In_A_Pink_Dress | ||
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On March 17 2012 11:13 Jitsu wrote: Jackal, you are one of my favorite posters on this entire site. All your shit is pure gold. You are revealing strange habits Mr Jitsu. How the hell do you know about Jackal's shit? Secondly, if this is true, Jackal you are a trooper cause damn that has got to hurt. | ||
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On March 17 2012 13:26 Snarfs wrote: Hey Prob, wanna make a list of everyone's location before the game starts this time so we don't have to deal with scum FoSing you for it? That's going to be my first post | ||
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On March 17 2012 12:40 Jackal58 wrote: If my shit were indeed golden I would have retired to the toilet years ago. Yeah retired to it, or died on it  | ||
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On March 19 2012 01:24 Nemesis wrote:Probulous, I just took a quick look at your history, and you are usually a lot more helpful when you are not scum. You still haven't even made the list you promised before the game started. Since we're on the subject, we might as well get more discussion. What does the rest of you think about VE's case on jonnywup? That is Jackal, Probulous, and whoever else who haven't given their opinion. Firstly, if you want the list, make it yourself. That little back and forth with Snarfs was a joke because last game I played I made it and got called scum for the whole first day because of it. Not wasting our time with that again. I was writing up why I think Johnny is town and that if VE continues his push to a lynch he is scum, but this sandroba claim changes things. If it is true then JCarl is confirmed town as well. @Sandroba, Why the Jackal vote? He always lurks day 1. Why the town read on VE? Johnny is looking townie to me because if he was scum he would have been told to shut up by now. I mean he was posting stuff continuously when he was being pushed and has tried to defend himself. The initial case against him was he wasn't confident in his reads. Well no shit, it is his first game and it was early day 1, no reason to be confident. That doesn't make him scum. I am not voting for someone based off of that. Unfortunately I am coming into this game a little late but what exactly is the case against Johnny? Is there anything else then his wishy-washy read and subsequent bad defense of himself? | ||
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On March 19 2012 07:52 Tobon wrote: So Sandroba, JCarlson: why reveal blue right away? Doesn't that make you guys immediate scum targets? Because it pretty much confirms them as town until one of them flips, or is checked red. That is hugely powerful day 1. Plus JCarl was somewhat of a possible lynch so it makes sense to head that off. | ||
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On March 19 2012 07:33 xsksc wrote: any particular reason or do you just feel like it? Are you still on the fence about Johnny? To me his reaction was pretty townie. He changed his read because he realised he had nothing to base it on. How is that scummy? Since then he has been on the backfoot all game long. VE just keeps nailing him with small errors that could come from both a town or scum. So why do think Johnny is scum? | ||
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On March 19 2012 08:13 xsksc wrote: My problem with him was his bad posting for the most part, I couldn't make sense of it, it didn't look like a townie to me, why would a townie be so worried about having an unpopular opinnion? If he's town he has nothing to hide! A johnny lynch in my eyes is preferrable to a lurker lynch or a no lynch, but I hope we can find someone scummier by the end of the day. To me that is a null tell at this stage of the game. He thought Jackal was town based off of a feeling, that much is obvious. It looked like Jackal wanted to contribute and VE had already stated he thought Jackal was town. I doubt Johnny expected the response he got and so back pedalled when he realised his mistake. Being lynched is bad for your team whether you are scum or town. I think if he was scum, he would have been told to shut up rather than constantly replying with stuff which doesn't clarify his alignment. It is not much but neither is the case against him. Since then he has been constantly trying to reassert himself. Now that could be scum or town, I am not happy lynching someone based off of that. Especially someone in their first game, if it was VE who made those posts, then yes he should know better. I want to know VE's reasoning for continuing his attack for so long. His vote comment "Lets see what falls out" sounds like a pressure vote, if so why keep going? @VE, when you voted for Johnny did you intend for him to be lynched? | ||
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On March 19 2012 08:14 xsksc wrote: ROFL, my mistake. I read it as you being confused about his disappointment. Oh and my post to sandroba that you quoted was about lynching jackal, lol. | ||
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On March 19 2012 06:15 Tobon wrote: I'd be happy to post more. What more would you like me to talk about? And what I said was that if it came down to it, that I'd rather bandwagon than allow a no-lynch, because I believe a no-lynch to be a big waste of time. You'll notice that I haven't actually voted for or tried to push the case against anyone with lynch votes yet. But yes, if just as the current example, Johnnywup has the most votes but no majority and we're near the end of the day, I'd add my vote to try to get a lynch rather than leaving a no-lynch. Only scum do this. It absolves you of your responsibility to provide a reason for your vote. If I can say "well everyone is voting Johnny so I will vote Johnny" then you cannot tell if my motives are town or mafia driven. Aside from the Dirkzor analysis of your post, you keep asking questions (1, 2, 3, 4). You never answer them yourself, or provide opinions for us to analyse. The only thing of substance you have produced is this On March 19 2012 07:20 Tobon wrote: Initially, I thought that VE was pressuring Johnny to gain info, and even though I find Johnny's response a null read (can't tell whether it's newbie town or newbie scum - I can identify with his reaction being a newb myself either way), that seemed good townie behavior. However, the way in which he has now backed off and unvoted, as well as defending Sloosh against a charge of chainsawing, without a whole lot of _there_ there, and just generally controlling the conversation, makes me wonder if he's pulling the strings here. What if Johnny is newbie scum, and VE is also scum? VE pushes a little too hard, gets some of the rest of us to defend, and never really intends Johnny's lynch at all? He gets a lot of time spent, and if Johnny isn't lynched the town gains nothing, whereas if Johnny is lynched, VE gets a lot of credit for the success of his "random" accusation. It seems like a clever win-win he might have built. That seems like an awful lot of paranoia on my part, though. It's much simpler to just assume that scum is hiding amongst the lurkers rather than the scum actually controlling conversation from the start. In short, I find VE scummiest of the active posters so far, but a lot of my suspicion remains on the lurkers. Yup, which is why I haven't voted yet. Which is a lovely piece of waffle which can be summarised as "I think VE is scummy for reasons that may or may not make sense". There are reasons to be suspicious of VE, his insistence that Johnny is scum would be a nice way to get a bandwagon vote through. He wouldn't be bandwagoning as he lead the lynch. I think this is what you were trying to explain but your case is really convoluted. This is a very wishy-washy piece of fluff that makes it look like you are contributing without contributing. If you don't shape up before the end of the day and actually provide content I will gladly see you swing. | ||
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On March 19 2012 09:10 Tobon wrote: Whatever, dude. I've answered everything asked of me (not much, true). If you have more questions, ask. You may think my substance is "waffle", and heck, you could be right, but you aren't really disagreeing with it either. That post was a bunch of waffle basically saying that you are reading me as a null newbie, and you'll lynch me for not being helpful. Well, if "not helpful" is the only thing you can find to lynch, you aren't doing a very good job. Meanwhile, I'll do what I can to learn to be helpful. What is with the passive aggressive bullshit? Everything in your filter is just questions and fluff. If you want to help, then find scum. But of course, you don't want to make your alignment clear. You don't want people to actually know, what role you were given because you rolled scum. ##Vote: Tobon | ||
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On March 19 2012 09:36 Tobon wrote: Here, I'll make my alignment clear: I claim vanilla town. I don't think this will surprise anyone, really, nor do I expect the claim to change anyone's mind. And I wasn't passive aggressive with you, I was (and am) simply dismissive. You really think your case says anything other than that I'm not the best player in the world, which has been obvious since the get-go? No you are avoiding looking for scum. Then when someone points it out you dismiss them. How am I supposed to know you are what you claim you are if you don't bother to even try and contribute. Find me scum and I will remove my vote, but your determination to try brush this aside just confirms my suspicions. You're acting like [UoN]Sentinel from Werewolves II (filter). Instead of taking my advice and start scum hunting, you get all defensive and dismissive. That will not change my position, so if you are town, find me scum. | ||
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On March 19 2012 08:23 Probulous wrote: I want to know VE's reasoning for continuing his attack for so long. His vote comment "Lets see what falls out" sounds like a pressure vote, if so why keep going? @VE, when you voted for Johnny did you intend for him to be lynched? VE, can you respond to this please. In light of your unvote I can only assume you no longer intend for him to be lynched. | ||
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