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turtles
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 19:05:32
January 25 2012 01:36 GMT
#1
update: BIGGER, better and now also uploaded on EU!

Salt is a training tool which enables saving and loading the game in multiplayer matches with practice partners! It is designed to help people test out the timing and execution of all aspects of their play and I have recieved positive responses from Bronze players, pro players/casters (Qxc and Husky) and many people from all levels in between.

To use the tool a player simply types "save" or "load" into chat and they can jump to whatever point in the game they want. For a simple look at how this works and how it can be used you can watch the episode of HuskyStarcraft where he did a review/tutorial on it as part of a new series.


(note, near the end of the clip his opponent clicks on the "restart" button hence the confussion)

He does a good job of outlining some uses for this which are holding timing attacks and practicing micro in real world engagements. It is also useful to develop build orders to test out what a build order is weak against, different variations on a build order and which paths work best when transitioning, as well as practicing games where spawn location plays a role as it lets you chose which starting location each player begins at.

To use simply enter the custom maps section of Battlenet and search for "SALT" and there should be a number of the maps in the list.

So far there have been 13 maps released.
+ Show Spoiler +

LADDER / TOURNAMENT:
SALT Antiga Shipyard
SALT Entombed Valley
SALT Cloud Kingdom
SALT Metalopolis
SALT Shakuras Plateau
SALT Shattered Temple
SALT Tal'Darim Altar

TOURNAMENT:
SALT Dual Sight
SALT Crevasse
SALT Daybreak
SALT Terminus

NOT IN COMPETITIVE USE:
SALT Xel'naga Caverns
SALT Bel'shir swamp (one of my own maps, not balance tested)

MORE MAPS:
coming soon


If you use custom hotkeys for control groups then you will need to edit the file SALTkeybindings.SC2Banks which will be found in your banks file.+ Show Spoiler +
Start the game and it will create a default file for you, if you do not know where it is located do a search of you SC2 folder and you should find it. To change the hotkey for control group 1 to the letter 'q' find the line that says <Value string="1"/> and change it to <Value string="q"/>. all letters, numbers and F1-F12 keys are allowed.


In the future I will be looking into being able to save the game as a file so that it can be shared with others, distributed to help people become better gamers, included in help requests (eg. "Help. What should I do in this situation?") and used in tournaments in the case of a player who gets disconnected.

I sincerely hope that you all find this to be a useful tool.

Thank you for your time,
Turtles
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
January 25 2012 01:38 GMT
#2
Cool acronym, SALT ^^ also I think I've played a similar map, very helpful for practicing.
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
January 25 2012 01:39 GMT
#3
I've been waiting so long for something like this!!! thank you
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 25 2012 01:47 GMT
#4
Holy shit I can't believe something like this hasn't been released already. At first I thought it was going to be something potentially bannable when you called it a mod, but it looks like that's not a matter at hand.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 25 2012 01:48 GMT
#5
sounds cool
ianyapxw
Profile Joined November 2011
34 Posts
January 25 2012 01:55 GMT
#6
thank you. great idea and I look forward to using it in practice

(:
turtles
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia360 Posts
January 25 2012 01:56 GMT
#7
On January 25 2012 10:47 Grobyc wrote:
Holy shit I can't believe something like this hasn't been released already. At first I thought it was going to be something potentially bannable when you called it a mod, but it looks like that's not a matter at hand.


Thanks, I updated the OP to say that it is a custom game mod.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 25 2012 01:57 GMT
#8
Quick question, why do you need 2 threads??
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tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
January 25 2012 01:59 GMT
#9
This is awesome! :D

I can't imagine a player that wouldn't have use of this at some point. Good work!
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DocHolliday
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom51 Posts
January 25 2012 01:59 GMT
#10
holy shit this is so cool. think of the training/coaching possibilities people could grind out with this!
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 02:04:25
January 25 2012 02:03 GMT
#11
Why not name it LAST (Last And Save Tool)? SALT sounds like salt.
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
January 25 2012 02:06 GMT
#12
Sounds extremely useful. I'll be sure to give it a try.
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KlaW
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2 Posts
January 25 2012 02:09 GMT
#13
It's probably a far fetch, but could this possibly be implemented to keep track of game state in tournament games, so in case the game drops it can be reloaded? That would be pretty cool.
Deathfate
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain555 Posts
January 25 2012 02:09 GMT
#14
Can you use it to save the game after a disconnect? it would solve a lot of tournament issues if you can continue the game after the person got dropped
Feel the power of the zerg swarm.
Ventez
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway107 Posts
January 25 2012 02:13 GMT
#15
Perfect, I will definitely use this with some friends.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
January 25 2012 02:13 GMT
#16
This is really cool. I must have wasted hours trying to practice certain builds against practice partners and having to do the opening every time we want to re-game.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
January 25 2012 02:13 GMT
#17
I haven't played it yet, so I can't really compliment you for being baller yet.

But you're probably pretty baller.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 25 2012 02:16 GMT
#18
On January 25 2012 11:09 Deathfate wrote:
Can you use it to save the game after a disconnect? it would solve a lot of tournament issues if you can continue the game after the person got dropped


I was thinking the same thing. How awesome would it be to just reload from where the game was if a disconnect happened. The only problem I can see from that is both players might forget what was going on in the game (I mean it would take a few minutes to get everything set up again then to start in a game might be kinda like "what was I doing before I dropped?") xD.
When I think of something else, something will go here
turtles
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia360 Posts
January 25 2012 02:27 GMT
#19
Quick question, why do you need 2 threads?

The thread I mentioned was asking for help testing and bug fixing.

keep track of game state in tournament games

use it to save the game after a disconnect?


As amazing as this functionality would be...

At the moment the game is saved into memory and is erased if a player leaves the game. However I will now begin working on tackling this issue so that may be solved in future updates

The other problem is that one of my main design goals was that the mod should in no way impede game play. I consider that if the mod degrades the gameplay then it is a failure. Currently it takes about 1 second to save the state in the early game and in the late game it takes a few seconds. If the game were to automatically save state every 5 minutes or so then I think the small glitch in gameplay would be enough to really put the players off and get in the way of spectators watching a really awesome SC2 game.

I can imagine small scale tournaments where an observer can save the game when they want to and then after the match the game state file could be shared. That way you get to be able to jump straight into the game that you were just spectating and try your own hand at it.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 25 2012 02:32 GMT
#20
On January 25 2012 11:03 canikizu wrote:
Why not name it LAST (Last And Save Tool)? SALT sounds like salt.

Really?! =O
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