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I always like to hedge my bets in case I roll scum  | ||
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On February 04 2012 07:13 Jayjay54 wrote: man, I want this to start. Town owned scum so hard in Mafia L, I need a challenge :D Did you request scum? Policy lynch incoming... | ||
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On February 07 2012 05:59 Palmar wrote: So if you spam, can we hang radfield on meta? Go away. I'm actively lurking  | ||
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Are You a betting man Kurumi? | ||
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My self imposed vow of silence is now over OK Sheth, that's all fine and dandy, but who do you want to lynch and why? Also, I enjoyed your streaming this afternoon Palmar: Toad, VE, Kitaman, what are your thoughts on them. I don't think VE is a great lynch today. His scum play is fairly transparent(no offense meant VE ), and his town play is pretty straight forward. Lynching him Day 1 is not optimal. In resistance he was fairly obviously town by Day 2, and in XLVIII he was mostly exposed scum by late Day 2. No rush.Bill, where did you go? Still think Kenpachi is our best Day 1 lynch? You have to admit it's a bit ironic that you called him out for claiming green.... when it's something you've most certainly done before on Day 1. CyberCheese, now that you've successfully deduced the best plan forward for the third party situation, who would you like to lynch? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On February 07 2012 08:15 wherebugsgo wrote: yo pimmelz when i get out og class i better see some thoughts on dr h and katina kk? ily all much love got quantum now byebye What did you honestly expect people to write about katina? __ I somewhat agree on Toad, he is tickling my senses. | ||
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Palmar you're reading the thread! That must mean your town I'm down with a Sheth lynch. He's putting in effort, but it's a similar kind of effort as Election Mafia(when he was scum). All his topics are peripheral, he's making long rhetorical posts, and spending too much time talking about irrelevant stuff than he should. That being said, he doesn't feel terrible, but it's that same niggle I got in Election mafia. Sheth, can you point me to a game where you were town? I'm also up for lynching CC. He's been pushing scum agenda this game, which is very much what he has done in the past. In LOTR he pushed scum agenda fearlessly the entire game, and he's doing the same thing here. Joker claiming ASAP is extremely sub-optimal, and does nothing but give mafia something to talk about. You've spent 15 posts talking about 3rd party issues and 2-3 talking about lynching or scummy players. And those have all been about Schworz, who is an easy candidate. Please step it up. | ||
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I wasn't gonna day 1 scumhunt this game, but I just can't help myself In all seriousness, I do think Toad scum: This post is the major factor for Toad in my mind: On February 07 2012 19:44 Toadesstern wrote: Yeah I've got the bad habbit of stopping to work when I'm told that I'm useless. Hapnned last game too. I did big ass analyses about Sandroba and everyone ignored them telling me I'm doing bullshit. I figured I could give you at least a couple of names instead of explaining this time so that should make people happy and you're able to tell if I'm mafia or not depending on the flips. I for example don't like rad because of his list (VE, Kita, myself). I don't have to talk about myself, Kita looks town to me and VE is leaning town for me but I'm not sure there yet. Easy shit. On the BM matter: BM / Kenpachi / Palmar are the 3 people I'd like to see lynch if we can't one of CC / layabout lynched. I think layabout and especially CC are more likely to flip mafia (or badman / catwoman). This post is made after several attempts at getting Toad to flesh out his reads. Read the spoiler quotes to see the context. First he opens with an excuse as to why he is not contributing and may not contribute in the future. That is somewhat scummy, but not particularly damning. Second he states he doesn't like me(which I assume means he thinks I am scummy) because he disagrees with my reads. That is not a valid reason to find someone scummy(in the early game), and shows the wrong mindset. Fact is, Kita looks like his inactive 'helpful' mafia play right now, and VE looks defensive and skittish. They are most certainly not so townie that calling them suspicious is a bad thing. Again, this is scummy but not terrible. Third and most importantly is the last line: On the BM matter: BM / Kenpachi / Palmar are the 3 people I'd like to see lynch if we can't one of CC / layabout lynched. I think layabout and especially CC are more likely to flip mafia (or badman / catwoman). This is in addition to these posts: not sure yet. Probably someone out of CC / layabout. If neither of those 2 is going to be an option I'd be happy to lynch BM / Kenpachi / Palmar instead. [....]I'd much rather see people like CC, maybe layabout or if we got noone else to lynch Palmar / Kenpachi lynched right now.[....] Similar posts, and in all three Toad is already backing off the CC, layabout train. They are his top 2, he has mentioned them multiple times, but not only is he not making an effort to push them, he is basically capitulating that they might not get lynched. CC is a decent target, and the fact is there are decent reasons to push him, yet Toad has not found them. Additionally, although this is a minor point, Toad says they are mafia, or third party. There is simply no reason for a town player to add in the last bit. If Toad is scum he likely KNOWS that CC and Layabout are town, so the inclination to hedge and call them third party is large. Not a huge thing, but really jumped out at me when I read it. His other targets, Kenpachi, BM and Palmar are just policy lynches. KP and BM are both perennial easy targets, and day 1 lynch bait for mafia. Including Palmar in here doesn't even make sense, and directly contradicts Toads earlier post: On February 06 2012 22:01 Toadesstern wrote: That's not what I'm asking. I just want to know if I should look forward to your analyses or if there's not going to be something. If you're not willing to play the usual palmar style I have to try and figure you out somehow else and you'de be someone like Kenpachi for me. Toad is going to try and figure Palmar out somehow else, which apparently just means voting him off Day 1. That doesn't make sense. You are using Palmar's somewhat trollish play(trollish play that you yourself already admitted was standard fare for Townie Palmar) as an excuse for a scum read. This post is also a red flag: On February 07 2012 07:40 Toadesstern wrote: holy shit this game is a trollfeast. I guess that problem will be solved after n1 given how many vigs there are (possibly) to our thread. Still want wbg to post something This post both undermines the thread, and encourages vigilantes to shoot into anyone trolling. Trolling is almost always a townie trait, as it both spotlights you and bring about the ire of town. Two things most mafia players seek to avoid. There are other points and posts, but most of them are minor. Agree or Disagree? ##Vote: Toadesstern | ||
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On February 07 2012 23:02 Jackal58 wrote: Why not? If you feel Radfield is scummy why wouldn't you want to lynch him? I see this sentiment posted in almost every game on here now. I don't want to lynch player X on day one. Fair amount of the time that sentiment has been put forth by people that flipped scum. If somebody looks scummy I'm going to push for their lynch. I don't care who it is. Remember No guts. No gory. You don't lynch some people day 1 for several reasons Jackal. A) Some players are extremely easy to pick out as town or scum as the day goes on. No need to kill them Day 1 B) Some players are very valuable as town, so you want to force the mafia to shoot at them, and you DON'T want to do their job for them. Day 1 reads are notoriously poor, so the risk/reward of killing a solid town player Day 1 is simply not there. On February 07 2012 23:43 Palmar wrote: Disagree, I think all the three people I mentioned are better candidates. Especially Toad's last post seemed like stubborn asshole-townie rather than scum. Checking, or even just straight up shooting him, would be fine, but I think we have better lynch candidates. His last post seems pretty meh to me. Sheth and VE I pretty much agree on. I'm not sure how you can have an opinion on Hiro though. Why is he on your list. + Show Spoiler + On February 07 2012 23:49 Kurumi wrote: Rad, why You didn't want to scumhunt Day 1? Because I'm normally wrong Day 1 . I wanted to scumhunt, just not really scumhunt publicly. I feel like too often my voice carries more weight than it should on Day 1, as I don't think my Day 1 track record is better than anyone elses. I cannot help myself though... | ||
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Please stop talking about the mason thread BM, and please stop talking about a mass claim. The Mason thread is completely unimportant, and 99.99% infiltrated by scum, which is unsurprising when it contains half the player base. If you are not in the mason circle, don't worry. I would actually post the link to the thread to stop the discussion, but can't because Joker is basically exposed in that thread. Anyways, a 15 player circle has basically no value. Toad looks decent for now, so I'm switching to Sheth. His defense was mediocre at best, and he STILL only posted his reads upon being pressed. I don't even think he voted. I'm willing to switch to cyber_cheese if need be. I'm gone for the rest of the night pretty much until lynch time. ##Vote: Sheth | ||
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On February 08 2012 05:40 rgTheSchworz wrote: I'd lynch Dr.H at the moment. Layabout looks scummy and puts Dr.H on the green side right now. Read my filter, I made a case on him. Still, quails looks more scummy, but we aren't going to get him lynched today. Not with him dropping 2 posts. DocH looks fine. There is no way we are lynching him today. If you think layabout looks scummy, then vote for him. Better yet vote for Sheth or Cheese. | ||
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Something I find interesting is the people who started to speculate that Cheese would flip third party, rather than scum. The mafia know that cheese couldn't have flipped scum, so Batman or Catwomen is the only roles they could speculate him being honestly. I know in past games, I've accidentally called players serial killers because I knew they couldn't be scum. Agreed, I noticed this too, though I still need to reread the particulars. Kitaman, you asked me earlier(in the other thread) why I thought you were scum. It was based off both your neutral tone and your frequency of posting, both of which reminded me of LOTR/PYPInt. You have a tendency to make sensible, paragraphy and helpful posts as scum, posts which do very little to actually advance the thread. I'm not getting that vibe anymore though, in fact I'm leaning the other way on you If your name starts with a T, you need to post more. I'm having real trouble differentiating you guys. evantrees has been even more quiet than usual. slardar, opz, jay, ico, qualis, and katina leave much to be desired. People may be giving kurumi a hard time, but at least he is posting. I'll take that any day over an inactive. Agree again, though I would add Adam and Forumite to the list. Need to hear more out of them | ||
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As pointed out by DocH in the other thread, each of our medics has a name, which means we can direct them individually. This allows us to protect more key players than we normally would. Power Roles to Protect: Bill Murray Kurumi Jackal Toad Schworz Palmar Kurumi is a waste of protection, as he is a likely catwoman hit. Toad and Palmar apparently do not need protection, so they can be set aside for now. That leaves BM, Jackal and Schworz. Players to protect: Radfield DocH maybe Kitaman That gives us 6 players for 4 potential medic names. Hush: Protects Jackal or Rad/DocH/Kita Poison Ivy: Protects BM or Rad/DocH/Kita Harley Quinn: Protects Schworz or Rad/DocH/Kita Scarecrow: Protects Jackal/BM/Schowrz I think that gives us maximum coverage, and forces mafia to shoot elsewhere or doublestack. Obviously if medics want to protect elsewhere that is fine too. This is just a guideline. If Palmar is not unkillable tonight then he should also be on the list. Joker, you need to fire tonight, as there is a decent chance you are dead by morning. Palmar, you also need to fire tonight unless you are subject to same protection as Toad. Other vigilantes should probably hold their shots. | ||
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On February 09 2012 03:14 VisceraEyes wrote: He's afraid of Palmar shooting you to shut you up if he's lying scum or 3rd party, now answer the question Toad. Given that Toad hasn't outright called him out, that's pretty much answer enough. | ||
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