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vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 17 2012 19:31 GMT
#25
/in if possible
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 24 2012 22:43 GMT
#95
this looks fun cant wait for role PMs etc
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 26 2012 01:40 GMT
#124
/confirm

I was taking a nap and woke up to the my phone's email alert of a TL message.

Seems appropriate given the game name.

vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 26 2012 02:05 GMT
#127
You heard it here first, blazinghand is the mod designated vote counter.

<3
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 26 2012 05:55 GMT
#182
I have no idea how to read all that stupid-ness about how to properly term a read. WTF was that. It wasn't useful thats for sure.

Lets try to get a bit more on track than debating something insanely useless like that.

I actually find Navillus a bit squirmy but I have never played with him and thats like the barest of gut reads on the last few posts of his.

I hate day 1.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 26 2012 18:39 GMT
#241
I hate all of you and you are ugly!

I like the combo of blazinghands case and the fact that cwave is very clearly (at least thus far, prove me wrong cwave) bonkers as a day 1 lynch. I personally think the 5 words part was in fact one of the very few true scum slips. I will be voting him when I get off work and get home.

I want navillus to weigh in on some things (take your pick as to what) as your tone and posting pre page 10 gave my gut a twinge. Has he played in other games I can look at?
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 26 2012 19:16 GMT
#243
Look I see the idea behind this limiting the reads we make but it hamstrings us too much. IMO the negatives of this 'plan' far out weigh the positives.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 26 2012 20:01 GMT
#250
On January 27 2012 04:25 Zephirdd wrote:
Let me summarize the plan for you guys.

Don't worry about semantics, just try to not create leaders. This way scum won't have a solid target.

Why is it so hard to understand something that simple?


Well put.

This is also why its a bad plan. Setting out on day 1 with a game plan of never allowing 'leaders' to emerge is an amazingly bad plan. How often does one or two players end up contributing way more than others? This plan would be to ignore those types of players and to silently cheer them on.

I refuse. This is not a good way to play. We can't cut our own head off just to maybe confuse the mafia a tiny bit.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 26 2012 20:08 GMT
#253
He isnt saying not to make lists and not to sheep. That is totally different in effect.

If thats then plan then I support it. This does not mean you cant agree with people though and that needs to be clear.

There is always going to be a gray area between sheeping and agreeing and we shouldnt cut out our tounges just to avoid maybe crossing that line.

Take my post where I agreed with Blazinghand. Do people see this as a post that heps the scum?
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 26 2012 21:47 GMT
#261
I think cwave isnt a weak town player. With things like JUMPING on radfield for giving scum a rating system (seriously it is cwave who clearly made this a ratinf system...) and saying that scum have 5 words when the rules make it obv that it is an unkoen amount ANNNNNNND his attempt to abuse the intent of calling him a VI....

There is a difference between bad town and scummy.

He is by far the best lynch canidate thus far.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 26 2012 22:06 GMT
#264
Ok i follow you on cwave that makes sense.

Who do you think is the scummiest at this point then?
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 26 2012 22:18 GMT
#266
Ahhhh a keyboard. Hate posting via phone.

This is a ridiculous argument. In no way does anyone get ignored and in no way do leaders not emerge. Leaders don't become leaders because a bunch of people call them town. Leaders become leaders and THEN a bunch of people call them town. Just keep your townreads to yourself, at the very least early on in the game(Day 1/2)


Ok... and then what are we to do when you think a player is contributing really good things is about to get lynched? Saying I think they aren't scum vs I think they are town...

WHATS THE DIFFERENCE?

Really, I see this 'plan' in regaurds to this issue as not very useful I guess. Maybe it isn't a bad plan (you are right that players offer things and then get called town) in the sense that it hamstrings us (though it does limit the language we can use to discuss things which, if it really serves no greater purpose, DOES hurt our ability to play) but what advantage does it really offer?

I totally see the point about lists that makes 100% sense. But please help me here, the difference between calling someone not scum vs town....

I just see every math teacher in teh world laughing at that statement.


Consider this vader. If mafia restriction is not 5 words, then mafia now are almost certain Cwave is townie and a good person to push to lynch(As an aside, just like # of mafia, no one should be speculating on # words or characters).


You are ignoring the fact that they can in fact talk out side of the thread I realized. Anything can be a breadcrumb because we will never see the full meaning of things that are intended to have double meaning.

I read it as he said 5 words for one of 3 reasons:

1. Scumslip
2. He isn't lieing and he pulled it from a previous game
3. It is part of a fake out that we can't see fully because of hidden messages.

I just see more ways that him saying that fit with a scum pattern than a town pattern. I see him as scummy for this statement and though I see your point it falls apart as solid evidence the more I think about it.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 26 2012 22:22 GMT
#267
On January 26 2012 14:02 redFF wrote:
I think the key and best part about it is that it leaves out varying degrees of townieness so that we don't have 6 people in the thread calling one person very town and then that person gets killed.


oooo

I can accept this as logical.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 26 2012 22:41 GMT
#268
On January 26 2012 10:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Depending on power roles, I'd say there are about 4-5 mafia? Leaning 5 and town having some blues.


Whoa this post...

Why are you leaning 5 and town having some blues.

Explain the logic behind this post.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 27 2012 02:35 GMT
#276
##vote Cwave

Forgot to do that.

@Radfield

I still think he is being scummy as all heck compared to everyone else. He gets my vote unless a better candidate comes up.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 27 2012 06:43 GMT
#279
Read my posts following that one. I see the point of it now etc.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 27 2012 06:44 GMT
#280
On January 27 2012 13:00 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 11:35 vaderseven wrote:
##vote Cwave

Forgot to do that.

@Radfield

I still think he is being scummy as all heck compared to everyone else. He gets my vote unless a better candidate comes up.

Navillus is a far better lynch.


I disagree, he seems not as scummy as Cwave to me.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 27 2012 14:44 GMT
#293
Cwave, that is really what I was looking for. Can you link me to any game where you played scum in the recent past?

##unvote
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 27 2012 14:53 GMT
#294
Rdfield your play reminds me of your day 1 play in 48. Remind me, what were you in 48?

At this point I dont favor a lynch on any particular person at all. When is the deadline?
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
January 27 2012 15:29 GMT
#299
Lanaia def needs to like join the discussion. 100% agree there.
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