• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:46
CEST 03:46
KST 10:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors6Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists22
Community News
Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event11Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced9
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) 2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $1,400 SEL Season 3 Ladder Invitational
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion [ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Movie Stars In Video Games: …
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1391 users

NaNiwa speaks out on CompLexity / Quantic move

Forum Index > SC2 General
760 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 37 38 39 Next All
JBanKs
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 13:05:25
December 10 2011 00:01 GMT
#1
mod edit:
On December 11 2011 03:55 QuanticCinergy wrote:
This is Mark Ferraz, Founder & CEO of Quantic. I would like to officially state that Complexity's statements have been nothing but truthful about the official communications relating to the transfer. Jason Lake was the first person to approach me about the Naniwa trade. That being said, I believe NaNi was speaking with SaSe about the possibility at the same time and that has created the confusion in this situation. Complexity handled this matter as professionally as possible from my stand point and the numerous posts slinging mud in their direction are misguided. I hope this clears up the situation and everyone can now move on.



The first interview since NaNiwa has moved to quantic, explaining what happened, why it happened and his plans for the future.

NaNiwa is staying in the StarTale house and arrived today, he sat down with us to discuss all that has been going on and put his side of the story across, what do you guys think?

From the interview
"It something about money of course but basically I lived at startale before i lived at mvp and I just liked it way way better, no offence to mvp guys obviously, they are nice people but I liked it a lot more here[StarTale]"

"It is the same for them if CatZ hits 5k viewers on his stream or that I place 2nd at an MLG and I did not agree with that point of view"

You can see the full interview HERE.

You can also check out other great StarTale content at our youtube, website and see the teamliquid thread about INSIDE THE STARTALE HOUSE here.




*My personal feeling, not that of my websites or sponsors is that NaNiwa is a really nice guy deep down, such a dedicated and devoted player, he is a champion that is for sure and he has his own goal, he does not deserve 90% of the trash he has thrown at him, I wish him all the best in the future*
Facebook Twitter Reddit
Ex-StarTale manager // @BanKseSports on twitter
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
December 10 2011 00:05 GMT
#2
Naniwa is definitely one of my favorite players. He has the attitude of a champion. I dont care whether he is socially akward or not, he has the drive to be the best and thats all that matters to me.
Kfcnoob
Profile Joined January 2011
United States296 Posts
December 10 2011 00:09 GMT
#3
i c,

complexity was all about maximizing their advertising, but didn't care about of how mediocre their players were(in nani's opinion)

instead praising a more popular player, naniwa wanted to join a team that emphasized being a more talented player.
And Artosis sayeth "the one who kills many, but loses few, comes out ahead."
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
December 10 2011 00:09 GMT
#4
Whatever floats his boat, really. If this is better for him in his quest to become the best, then it's the right choice.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
December 10 2011 00:10 GMT
#5
AHahahaha complexity so stupid. Who the fuck cares if catz hits 5k? NaNi fighting!
White-Ra fighting!
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 00:12:59
December 10 2011 00:10 GMT
#6
I think the community makes him look more bm than he actually is, and also some well known people in the community are making him look bad (eg. The retarded jokes on SOTG that has been going on the 4 latest shows).
Loved naniwas casting yesterday, such a funny guy :D
Thanks for doing a shit ton of esports coverage jbanks :D
TechnoSchaman
Profile Joined October 2010
United States156 Posts
December 10 2011 00:10 GMT
#7
does he totally spoil the already spoiled rumor about Quantic Startale partnership?
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 10 2011 00:10 GMT
#8
On December 10 2011 09:09 shabby wrote:
Whatever floats his boat, really. If this is better for him in his quest to become the best, then it's the right choice.

yea agree with you on that, he got to do what he feels will give him the best chance of winning.
Greed leads to just about all losses.
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
December 10 2011 00:10 GMT
#9
Thanks JBanKs, appreciate the effort ! <3

OT, This just confirmed what i thought the problem was.
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 00:14:31
December 10 2011 00:11 GMT
#10
I just like Naniwa a bit better due to his view on popularity versus actual skills in a competitive game.
Edit: regarding players of course, Day9 and other casters are fine to be charismatic and popular.
Sylailene
Profile Joined February 2011
91 Posts
December 10 2011 00:13 GMT
#11
really nice to actually hear what he had to say, maybe clear some confusion, thanks for the post
Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
December 10 2011 00:15 GMT
#12
Great interview.
It's obviously not the same version as complexity.

Also, it is clear that Naniwa is making efforts to improve his behaviour;
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 10 2011 00:15 GMT
#13
On December 10 2011 09:10 TechnoSchaman wrote:
does he totally spoil the already spoiled rumor about Quantic Startale partnership?


If it was supposed to be a secret, then 300 people already spoiled it before him
qqK
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany282 Posts
December 10 2011 00:15 GMT
#14
I dont understand complexity's reddit comment o.O
Why do they insist on having kicked out naniwa and would have even against his will, if Naniwa tells a completely different story (which already was part of his initial statement). Even if it was as coL described, wouldn't it have been much better publicity-wise to get their shit together beforehand and release one story without contradictions?
Well, who cares about coL anyway, good luck in the future, nani.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 00:25:29
December 10 2011 00:16 GMT
#15
Loving these interviews Jbanks. You guys are awesome. Everyone should respect this guy no matter what he does or what he says, it's all for being better at StarCraft 2, that's all he cares about.
nglt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States187 Posts
December 10 2011 00:16 GMT
#16
doesnt make much sense for a foreigner who wants to train in korea to improve there play to be in a korean house where the korean players dont even play with you. good move by naniwa to make the switch in teams and houses.
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
December 10 2011 00:16 GMT
#17
Makes sense considering that complexity attempted to sign Stephano too.

Nani is so straight forward with his answer Wish him the best of luck in Code S.
Slangen
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden1166 Posts
December 10 2011 00:17 GMT
#18
Go Naniwa! I think you made the right choise. Haters will hate, who needs them.
Hope you will wreak blizzard cup!
Fnatic - TSM - EG
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 10 2011 00:18 GMT
#19
Great interview I actually agree with Naniwa the scene is very much a popularity contest. Instead it should be a competition of skills.

I see it alot from the US team they seem to be very good at PR and are really good at hyping there players. Take EG as an example
Le BucheRON
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada619 Posts
December 10 2011 00:19 GMT
#20
Naniwa has the eye of the tiger.
Guess who`s special?!
1 2 3 4 5 37 38 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
PiGosaur Cup #76
CranKy Ducklings72
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft410
Ketroc 52
CosmosSc2 50
StarCraft: Brood War
910 41
NaDa 28
League of Legends
JimRising 613
Counter-Strike
taco 738
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox2778
Mew2King60
Other Games
summit1g6873
Liquid`RaSZi2104
C9.Mang0541
monkeys_forever441
Maynarde117
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1246
BasetradeTV450
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream45
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta381
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• sM.Zik 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 14m
Afreeca Starleague
8h 14m
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
9h 14m
SHIN vs Nicoract
Solar vs Nice
PiGosaur Cup
22h 14m
GSL
1d 7h
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
2 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
OSC
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Zoun vs Ryung
Lambo vs ShoWTimE
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
BSL
5 days
GSL
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-02
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W6
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.