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NaNiwa speaks out on CompLexity / Quantic move

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JBanKs
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 13:05:25
December 10 2011 00:01 GMT
#1
mod edit:
On December 11 2011 03:55 QuanticCinergy wrote:
This is Mark Ferraz, Founder & CEO of Quantic. I would like to officially state that Complexity's statements have been nothing but truthful about the official communications relating to the transfer. Jason Lake was the first person to approach me about the Naniwa trade. That being said, I believe NaNi was speaking with SaSe about the possibility at the same time and that has created the confusion in this situation. Complexity handled this matter as professionally as possible from my stand point and the numerous posts slinging mud in their direction are misguided. I hope this clears up the situation and everyone can now move on.



The first interview since NaNiwa has moved to quantic, explaining what happened, why it happened and his plans for the future.

NaNiwa is staying in the StarTale house and arrived today, he sat down with us to discuss all that has been going on and put his side of the story across, what do you guys think?

From the interview
"It something about money of course but basically I lived at startale before i lived at mvp and I just liked it way way better, no offence to mvp guys obviously, they are nice people but I liked it a lot more here[StarTale]"

"It is the same for them if CatZ hits 5k viewers on his stream or that I place 2nd at an MLG and I did not agree with that point of view"

You can see the full interview HERE.

You can also check out other great StarTale content at our youtube, website and see the teamliquid thread about INSIDE THE STARTALE HOUSE here.




*My personal feeling, not that of my websites or sponsors is that NaNiwa is a really nice guy deep down, such a dedicated and devoted player, he is a champion that is for sure and he has his own goal, he does not deserve 90% of the trash he has thrown at him, I wish him all the best in the future*
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Ex-StarTale manager // @BanKseSports on twitter
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
December 10 2011 00:05 GMT
#2
Naniwa is definitely one of my favorite players. He has the attitude of a champion. I dont care whether he is socially akward or not, he has the drive to be the best and thats all that matters to me.
Kfcnoob
Profile Joined January 2011
United States296 Posts
December 10 2011 00:09 GMT
#3
i c,

complexity was all about maximizing their advertising, but didn't care about of how mediocre their players were(in nani's opinion)

instead praising a more popular player, naniwa wanted to join a team that emphasized being a more talented player.
And Artosis sayeth "the one who kills many, but loses few, comes out ahead."
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
December 10 2011 00:09 GMT
#4
Whatever floats his boat, really. If this is better for him in his quest to become the best, then it's the right choice.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
December 10 2011 00:10 GMT
#5
AHahahaha complexity so stupid. Who the fuck cares if catz hits 5k? NaNi fighting!
White-Ra fighting!
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 00:12:59
December 10 2011 00:10 GMT
#6
I think the community makes him look more bm than he actually is, and also some well known people in the community are making him look bad (eg. The retarded jokes on SOTG that has been going on the 4 latest shows).
Loved naniwas casting yesterday, such a funny guy :D
Thanks for doing a shit ton of esports coverage jbanks :D
TechnoSchaman
Profile Joined October 2010
United States156 Posts
December 10 2011 00:10 GMT
#7
does he totally spoil the already spoiled rumor about Quantic Startale partnership?
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 10 2011 00:10 GMT
#8
On December 10 2011 09:09 shabby wrote:
Whatever floats his boat, really. If this is better for him in his quest to become the best, then it's the right choice.

yea agree with you on that, he got to do what he feels will give him the best chance of winning.
Greed leads to just about all losses.
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
December 10 2011 00:10 GMT
#9
Thanks JBanKs, appreciate the effort ! <3

OT, This just confirmed what i thought the problem was.
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 00:14:31
December 10 2011 00:11 GMT
#10
I just like Naniwa a bit better due to his view on popularity versus actual skills in a competitive game.
Edit: regarding players of course, Day9 and other casters are fine to be charismatic and popular.
Sylailene
Profile Joined February 2011
91 Posts
December 10 2011 00:13 GMT
#11
really nice to actually hear what he had to say, maybe clear some confusion, thanks for the post
Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
December 10 2011 00:15 GMT
#12
Great interview.
It's obviously not the same version as complexity.

Also, it is clear that Naniwa is making efforts to improve his behaviour;
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
December 10 2011 00:15 GMT
#13
On December 10 2011 09:10 TechnoSchaman wrote:
does he totally spoil the already spoiled rumor about Quantic Startale partnership?


If it was supposed to be a secret, then 300 people already spoiled it before him
qqK
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany282 Posts
December 10 2011 00:15 GMT
#14
I dont understand complexity's reddit comment o.O
Why do they insist on having kicked out naniwa and would have even against his will, if Naniwa tells a completely different story (which already was part of his initial statement). Even if it was as coL described, wouldn't it have been much better publicity-wise to get their shit together beforehand and release one story without contradictions?
Well, who cares about coL anyway, good luck in the future, nani.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 00:25:29
December 10 2011 00:16 GMT
#15
Loving these interviews Jbanks. You guys are awesome. Everyone should respect this guy no matter what he does or what he says, it's all for being better at StarCraft 2, that's all he cares about.
nglt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States187 Posts
December 10 2011 00:16 GMT
#16
doesnt make much sense for a foreigner who wants to train in korea to improve there play to be in a korean house where the korean players dont even play with you. good move by naniwa to make the switch in teams and houses.
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
December 10 2011 00:16 GMT
#17
Makes sense considering that complexity attempted to sign Stephano too.

Nani is so straight forward with his answer Wish him the best of luck in Code S.
Slangen
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden1166 Posts
December 10 2011 00:17 GMT
#18
Go Naniwa! I think you made the right choise. Haters will hate, who needs them.
Hope you will wreak blizzard cup!
Fnatic - TSM - EG
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 10 2011 00:18 GMT
#19
Great interview I actually agree with Naniwa the scene is very much a popularity contest. Instead it should be a competition of skills.

I see it alot from the US team they seem to be very good at PR and are really good at hyping there players. Take EG as an example
Le BucheRON
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada619 Posts
December 10 2011 00:19 GMT
#20
Naniwa has the eye of the tiger.
Guess who`s special?!
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