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Presidenten
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden777 Posts
December 10 2011 00:19 GMT
#21
cleared out some stuff, good interview much <3 for nani and upclosegamers!
rUiNati0n
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1155 Posts
December 10 2011 00:19 GMT
#22
Thanks for the interview. There seems to be a large difference between what the two parties are saying on the matter. Regardless I'm still a fan of NaNiWa.
eating corn while thinking about eating more corn
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
December 10 2011 00:19 GMT
#23
he seemed really friendly with DRG, joking around and stuff. i guess it was the other members on mvp that didnt care to practice against him??
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 10 2011 00:20 GMT
#24
On December 10 2011 09:15 qqK wrote:
I dont understand complexity's reddit comment o.O
Why do they insist on having kicked out naniwa and would have even against his will, if Naniwa tells a completely different story (which already was part of his initial statement). Even if it was as coL described, wouldn't it have been much better publicity-wise to get their shit together beforehand and release one story without contradictions?
Well, who cares about coL anyway, good luck in the future, nani.


Becuase Complexity keep losing all there star players. Kiwi,Destiny, Stephano now Naniwa its bad PR and they knows it.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 10 2011 00:20 GMT
#25
Naniwa beat 3 players at MLG to get second. The system let him get that far. I'd bet a lot of money if he had to go through that open bracket like Leenock did, he would have never came close to that place.

He beat Nestea in the most controversial series ever, Huk who hasn't won a PvP in ages and DRG. Then got stomped by Leenock.

I don't know why he gets so much hype. Can't wait to see his GSL performance.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Michaels
Profile Joined August 2010
419 Posts
December 10 2011 00:22 GMT
#26
Is complexity always trying to make players look bad, just because they dont want to be with them anymore? Im starting to see a pattern here
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
December 10 2011 00:22 GMT
#27
On December 10 2011 09:20 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 09:15 qqK wrote:
I dont understand complexity's reddit comment o.O
Why do they insist on having kicked out naniwa and would have even against his will, if Naniwa tells a completely different story (which already was part of his initial statement). Even if it was as coL described, wouldn't it have been much better publicity-wise to get their shit together beforehand and release one story without contradictions?
Well, who cares about coL anyway, good luck in the future, nani.


Becuase Complexity keep losing all there star players. Kiwi,Destiny, Stephano now Naniwa its bad PR and they knows it.

They never lost KiWi, he never signed a contract with them.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
December 10 2011 00:23 GMT
#28
On December 10 2011 09:20 Dexington wrote:
Naniwa beat 3 players at MLG to get second. The system let him get that far. I'd bet a lot of money if he had to go through that open bracket like Leenock did, he would have never came close to that place.

He beat Nestea in the most controversial series ever, Huk who hasn't won a PvP in ages and DRG. Then got stomped by Leenock.

I don't know why he gets so much hype. Can't wait to see his GSL performance.

Are you serious? Beating Nestea, controversial or not, Huk and DRG is not impressive? Christ. I'd like to see your foreign dream team.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 10 2011 00:23 GMT
#29
On December 10 2011 09:22 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 09:20 HappyChris wrote:
On December 10 2011 09:15 qqK wrote:
I dont understand complexity's reddit comment o.O
Why do they insist on having kicked out naniwa and would have even against his will, if Naniwa tells a completely different story (which already was part of his initial statement). Even if it was as coL described, wouldn't it have been much better publicity-wise to get their shit together beforehand and release one story without contradictions?
Well, who cares about coL anyway, good luck in the future, nani.


Becuase Complexity keep losing all there star players. Kiwi,Destiny, Stephano now Naniwa its bad PR and they knows it.

They never lost KiWi, he never signed a contract with them.


Complexity bought Root right but Kiwi refused? thats also losing a player
Beakyboo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 00:25:29
December 10 2011 00:24 GMT
#30
It's a little confusing that coL implies they were actively trying to get rid of him and then Naniwa completely contradicts this. Someone's lying and is going to look stupid. I don't even know what coL's motivation was in revealing that in the first place honestly, as it doesn't really achieve much but stir up drama. Better off just presenting it as a mutual decision rather than making vague insinuations and leaving it to the TL forums to fill in the details.
mapthesoul
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Trinidad/Tobago429 Posts
December 10 2011 00:25 GMT
#31
On December 10 2011 09:20 Dexington wrote:
Naniwa beat 3 players at MLG to get second. The system let him get that far. I'd bet a lot of money if he had to go through that open bracket like Leenock did, he would have never came close to that place.

He beat Nestea in the most controversial series ever, Huk who hasn't won a PvP in ages and DRG. Then got stomped by Leenock.

I don't know why he gets so much hype. Can't wait to see his GSL performance.

Are you kidding me? He beat both MVP and Nestea (twice) at MLG + DRG and Huk.
Atlas247
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada318 Posts
December 10 2011 00:26 GMT
#32
I didn't understand

"It is the same for them if CatZ hits 5k viewers on his stream or that I place 2nd at an MLG and I did not agree with that point of view"


Someone want to explain that to me? what does Catz have to do with it?
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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 10 2011 00:26 GMT
#33
On December 10 2011 09:23 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 09:20 Dexington wrote:
Naniwa beat 3 players at MLG to get second. The system let him get that far. I'd bet a lot of money if he had to go through that open bracket like Leenock did, he would have never came close to that place.

He beat Nestea in the most controversial series ever, Huk who hasn't won a PvP in ages and DRG. Then got stomped by Leenock.

I don't know why he gets so much hype. Can't wait to see his GSL performance.

Are you serious? Beating Nestea, controversial or not, Huk and DRG is not impressive? Christ. I'd like to see your foreign dream team.


He also lost to Cloud and DRG at Dreamhack. And almost lost to Ciara I believe. He barely even made it out of his group.

I honestly predict he will get last in his GSL group, especially considering it'll be Bo3's, drop to Code A, then be eliminated the following season.

Let's remember he has yet to win a game in the GSL and has been utterly outclassed in those games against Lucky.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
mapthesoul
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Trinidad/Tobago429 Posts
December 10 2011 00:27 GMT
#34
On December 10 2011 09:26 Atlas247 wrote:
I didn't understand

Show nested quote +
"It is the same for them if CatZ hits 5k viewers on his stream or that I place 2nd at an MLG and I did not agree with that point of view"


Someone want to explain that to me? what does Catz have to do with it?

What he's trying to say is that complexity rewards exposure as much as performance. So if CatZ gets that many viewers and they all see CoL's sponsors, it's worth just as much as Naniwa getting 2nd in a huge tournament.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 10 2011 00:28 GMT
#35
On December 10 2011 09:26 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 09:23 Redmark wrote:
On December 10 2011 09:20 Dexington wrote:
Naniwa beat 3 players at MLG to get second. The system let him get that far. I'd bet a lot of money if he had to go through that open bracket like Leenock did, he would have never came close to that place.

He beat Nestea in the most controversial series ever, Huk who hasn't won a PvP in ages and DRG. Then got stomped by Leenock.

I don't know why he gets so much hype. Can't wait to see his GSL performance.

Are you serious? Beating Nestea, controversial or not, Huk and DRG is not impressive? Christ. I'd like to see your foreign dream team.


He also lost to Cloud and DRG at Dreamhack. And almost lost to Ciara I believe. He barely even made it out of his group.

I honestly predict he will get last in his GSL group, especially considering it'll be Bo3's, drop to Code A, then be eliminated the following season.

Let's remember he has yet to win a game in the GSL and has been utterly outclassed in those games against Lucky.


You can nitpick any players matches and find some bad games. If we do the same to Idra. Idra lost 3 games to no names at WCG and is stuck in masters in Korea at a 50% win ratio wow he must be so horrible!! trollface

Now plz stop the hate
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 10 2011 00:28 GMT
#36
On December 10 2011 09:25 mapthesoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 09:20 Dexington wrote:
Naniwa beat 3 players at MLG to get second. The system let him get that far. I'd bet a lot of money if he had to go through that open bracket like Leenock did, he would have never came close to that place.

He beat Nestea in the most controversial series ever, Huk who hasn't won a PvP in ages and DRG. Then got stomped by Leenock.

I don't know why he gets so much hype. Can't wait to see his GSL performance.

Are you kidding me? He beat both MVP and Nestea (twice) at MLG + DRG and Huk.


I'm not talking about the global invitational. Nestea also lost a game to Idra, Kiwikaki and two to Haypro. He clearly was not playing anywhere near his best. And the last time Huk won a PvP in a best of x was in Orlando. That's a long time ago.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 10 2011 00:28 GMT
#37
On December 10 2011 09:23 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 09:20 Dexington wrote:
Naniwa beat 3 players at MLG to get second. The system let him get that far. I'd bet a lot of money if he had to go through that open bracket like Leenock did, he would have never came close to that place.

He beat Nestea in the most controversial series ever, Huk who hasn't won a PvP in ages and DRG. Then got stomped by Leenock.

I don't know why he gets so much hype. Can't wait to see his GSL performance.

Are you serious? Beating Nestea, controversial or not, Huk and DRG is not impressive? Christ. I'd like to see your foreign dream team.


you could also say code s players would never make it up to code S if they would have to make it through code A everytime. But thats how the system works and Naniwa was a runner up pretty much the same way like Lennock, so its a bad example to say he wouldn't be able to do it .
Presidenten
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden777 Posts
December 10 2011 00:29 GMT
#38
On December 10 2011 09:26 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 09:23 Redmark wrote:
On December 10 2011 09:20 Dexington wrote:
Naniwa beat 3 players at MLG to get second. The system let him get that far. I'd bet a lot of money if he had to go through that open bracket like Leenock did, he would have never came close to that place.

He beat Nestea in the most controversial series ever, Huk who hasn't won a PvP in ages and DRG. Then got stomped by Leenock.

I don't know why he gets so much hype. Can't wait to see his GSL performance.

Are you serious? Beating Nestea, controversial or not, Huk and DRG is not impressive? Christ. I'd like to see your foreign dream team.


He also lost to Cloud and DRG at Dreamhack. And almost lost to Ciara I believe. He barely even made it out of his group.

I honestly predict he will get last in his GSL group, especially considering it'll be Bo3's, drop to Code A, then be eliminated the following season.

Let's remember he has yet to win a game in the GSL and has been utterly outclassed in those games against Lucky.


wow the hate o.O "utterly outclassed", are you sure you are not being a little bit biased here?
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 10 2011 00:29 GMT
#39
On December 10 2011 09:28 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 09:26 Dexington wrote:
On December 10 2011 09:23 Redmark wrote:
On December 10 2011 09:20 Dexington wrote:
Naniwa beat 3 players at MLG to get second. The system let him get that far. I'd bet a lot of money if he had to go through that open bracket like Leenock did, he would have never came close to that place.

He beat Nestea in the most controversial series ever, Huk who hasn't won a PvP in ages and DRG. Then got stomped by Leenock.

I don't know why he gets so much hype. Can't wait to see his GSL performance.

Are you serious? Beating Nestea, controversial or not, Huk and DRG is not impressive? Christ. I'd like to see your foreign dream team.


He also lost to Cloud and DRG at Dreamhack. And almost lost to Ciara I believe. He barely even made it out of his group.

I honestly predict he will get last in his GSL group, especially considering it'll be Bo3's, drop to Code A, then be eliminated the following season.

Let's remember he has yet to win a game in the GSL and has been utterly outclassed in those games against Lucky.


You can nitpick any players matches and find some bad games. If we do the same to Idra. Idra lost 3 games to no names at WCG and is stuck in masters in Korea at a 50% win ratio wow he must be so horrible!! trollface

Now plz stop the hate


I'm not saying he's horrible, I'm saying he's way over rated. As is Idra, but that's another argument.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
December 10 2011 00:30 GMT
#40
On December 10 2011 09:24 Beakyboo wrote:
It's a little confusing that coL implies they were actively trying to get rid of him and then Naniwa completely contradicts this. Someone's lying and is going to look stupid. I don't even know what coL's motivation was in revealing that in the first place honestly, as it doesn't really achieve much but stir up drama. Better off just presenting it as a mutual decision rather than making vague insinuations and leaving it to the sewing circle TL forums to fill in the details.

Yea, I was thinking that too.

I wonder if the contract actually had a clause that allowed them to "sell" naniwa without his consent. That's a weird thing to have in a contract.

I also want to be clear this was not a mutual decision. This was solely compLexity's decision to do this. We were going to sell the contract to someone and we are happy that Naniwa and Quantic were able to come to terms.
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