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[H] Can seem to be surviving in silver, help?

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Surikizu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States32 Posts
December 08 2011 15:52 GMT
#1
Hello all, I am Surikizu and I currently am on mid-level silver but I am having a very hard time surviving. PvP is my toughest match up and PvT comes next. I do alright in PvZ more than I do with the other races. I am a protoss player and I am wishing to get better with my toughest match ups. Can anyone be able to assist me? I will provide the replays of my very recent games and most of them are a lost.

I would also like to note than I don't want "MACRO BETTER", I simply would appreciate it if you give me specific pointers,at a certain time of the replay, what I should have done, what I've done wrong and what I should do to correct it. Please, and thank you all.

Note: The replays are uploaded on mediafire because I'm new to this uploading replays business. I guarantee 100% there are no viruses or anything that can harm your computer.

Replay:

http://www.mediafire.com/?u0zddydc27azy25

-Suriki.
Damn Toss is so OP
rebotfc
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 15:58:00
December 08 2011 15:57 GMT
#2
Hi Obviously you are asking for help with good intentions, I would recommend you upload one or two typical losses to a site such as http://drop.sc/ press the upload button in the top right.

Then try to self analyse that game and describe why you think you lost it, giving times if possible. Say what your plan was, was it 4-gate, or was it fast expand etc.

This gives people a starting point and saves a lot of time.

The thing is what you have asked is for people to generally look at all your replays in the pack and try to pick out what is wrong with your game, its asking quite a lot of peoples time.

I'm not saying this to be nasty, but i think you would get more and better quality advice if you uploaded only one or two and did some self analysis.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
December 08 2011 15:57 GMT
#3
Hey, I'm just going to copy and paste something I posted in some other thread.
Here's a few tips that'll help your replays get analyzed.

Pick one representative replay and analyze it yourself. This accomplished a few things.
1. It's REQUIRED by forum guidelines and you thread could be closed because of this alone.
2. People are much more likely to watch one replay than a replay pack
3. People are more likely to help you if they see you put effort into your OP.
4. You'll get better responses/analysis that are targeted for you and may clear up your misconceptions.

Also, you really kinda have to upload on a replay sharing site. Other sites make you wait and are just annoying plus have the potential for viruses. Just google replay upload.
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Yodums
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada25 Posts
December 08 2011 16:46 GMT
#4
I watched the PvP on Anita Shipyard. Assuming you watched the replay, you would have known that you had that game in the bag. But here are some points on the replay:

1. You saw open with a very unorthodox gateway, forge, core, and 2 canons. You made a robo, which was a good move seeing as you might have suspected DTs, but kept making more gateway units. If you continue to make units, you want to do something with them. Otherwise, the right decision here would have been to take an early expansion, because your enemy invested 450 to setup his static defense. This would have put you in an early economic lead. You ended up taking an expo at the same time your opponent did. Also, your natural was undersaturated while your main was oversaturated. Probe transfer.

2. Scouting. It was bad. You had two observers side by side in his base. You didn't see his unit composition. If you saw his unit composition, and didn't see his natural setup, you would have easily known he had to have a base sitting somewhere other than his natural. Your lack of scouting led to you taking a very reactive approach to your unit composition. Whereas if you would have scouted it earlier, you would have put together a better army. You also had a spare obs in an empty base. You could have put that in the middle to see when the units were coming since you didn't have the tower.

3. You overextended yourself in that warp prism play. Once you see that many zealots, you need to make a run out of there and save as many units as you can, not leave them there attacking.

4. Macro. As much as you hate it, you need work on it. You floated 2k+ at points in the game. If you turned those minerals into an army, they would have taken your opponent, who also had bad macro.

Based off of that replay, I would say the two big things you need to work on are: scouting and macro.





-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
December 08 2011 16:50 GMT
#5
NrGmonk pretty much said it all about the replays. Especially regarding the replay pack thing; it takes a fair bit of time to review a replay and provide feedback.

However to add another aspect to this: if you provide self-analysis of one or two replays then it will help people identify problems with your mindset. Sometimes the problems people run into aren't mechanics but simply that they think one thing and don't realise that its wrong. Like being convinced they're ahead when they're not.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
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