• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:02
CET 01:02
KST 09:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)11Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Spontaneous hotkey change zerg Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1881 users

[H] Can seem to be surviving in silver, help?

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Surikizu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States32 Posts
December 08 2011 15:52 GMT
#1
Hello all, I am Surikizu and I currently am on mid-level silver but I am having a very hard time surviving. PvP is my toughest match up and PvT comes next. I do alright in PvZ more than I do with the other races. I am a protoss player and I am wishing to get better with my toughest match ups. Can anyone be able to assist me? I will provide the replays of my very recent games and most of them are a lost.

I would also like to note than I don't want "MACRO BETTER", I simply would appreciate it if you give me specific pointers,at a certain time of the replay, what I should have done, what I've done wrong and what I should do to correct it. Please, and thank you all.

Note: The replays are uploaded on mediafire because I'm new to this uploading replays business. I guarantee 100% there are no viruses or anything that can harm your computer.

Replay:

http://www.mediafire.com/?u0zddydc27azy25

-Suriki.
Damn Toss is so OP
rebotfc
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 15:58:00
December 08 2011 15:57 GMT
#2
Hi Obviously you are asking for help with good intentions, I would recommend you upload one or two typical losses to a site such as http://drop.sc/ press the upload button in the top right.

Then try to self analyse that game and describe why you think you lost it, giving times if possible. Say what your plan was, was it 4-gate, or was it fast expand etc.

This gives people a starting point and saves a lot of time.

The thing is what you have asked is for people to generally look at all your replays in the pack and try to pick out what is wrong with your game, its asking quite a lot of peoples time.

I'm not saying this to be nasty, but i think you would get more and better quality advice if you uploaded only one or two and did some self analysis.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
December 08 2011 15:57 GMT
#3
Hey, I'm just going to copy and paste something I posted in some other thread.
Here's a few tips that'll help your replays get analyzed.

Pick one representative replay and analyze it yourself. This accomplished a few things.
1. It's REQUIRED by forum guidelines and you thread could be closed because of this alone.
2. People are much more likely to watch one replay than a replay pack
3. People are more likely to help you if they see you put effort into your OP.
4. You'll get better responses/analysis that are targeted for you and may clear up your misconceptions.

Also, you really kinda have to upload on a replay sharing site. Other sites make you wait and are just annoying plus have the potential for viruses. Just google replay upload.
Moderator
Yodums
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada25 Posts
December 08 2011 16:46 GMT
#4
I watched the PvP on Anita Shipyard. Assuming you watched the replay, you would have known that you had that game in the bag. But here are some points on the replay:

1. You saw open with a very unorthodox gateway, forge, core, and 2 canons. You made a robo, which was a good move seeing as you might have suspected DTs, but kept making more gateway units. If you continue to make units, you want to do something with them. Otherwise, the right decision here would have been to take an early expansion, because your enemy invested 450 to setup his static defense. This would have put you in an early economic lead. You ended up taking an expo at the same time your opponent did. Also, your natural was undersaturated while your main was oversaturated. Probe transfer.

2. Scouting. It was bad. You had two observers side by side in his base. You didn't see his unit composition. If you saw his unit composition, and didn't see his natural setup, you would have easily known he had to have a base sitting somewhere other than his natural. Your lack of scouting led to you taking a very reactive approach to your unit composition. Whereas if you would have scouted it earlier, you would have put together a better army. You also had a spare obs in an empty base. You could have put that in the middle to see when the units were coming since you didn't have the tower.

3. You overextended yourself in that warp prism play. Once you see that many zealots, you need to make a run out of there and save as many units as you can, not leave them there attacking.

4. Macro. As much as you hate it, you need work on it. You floated 2k+ at points in the game. If you turned those minerals into an army, they would have taken your opponent, who also had bad macro.

Based off of that replay, I would say the two big things you need to work on are: scouting and macro.





-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
December 08 2011 16:50 GMT
#5
NrGmonk pretty much said it all about the replays. Especially regarding the replay pack thing; it takes a fair bit of time to review a replay and provide feedback.

However to add another aspect to this: if you provide self-analysis of one or two replays then it will help people identify problems with your mindset. Sometimes the problems people run into aren't mechanics but simply that they think one thing and don't realise that its wrong. Like being convinced they're ahead when they're not.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
20:00
Non-Korean Championship
ZZZero.O233
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
White-Ra 215
Nathanias 140
JuggernautJason102
UpATreeSC 91
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 616
ZZZero.O 233
Sexy 43
Shine 32
NaDa 25
Dota 2
syndereN568
capcasts150
Counter-Strike
summit1g5548
fl0m5163
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu386
Other Games
FrodaN7359
tarik_tv5903
Liquid`RaSZi2897
ToD201
KnowMe161
Maynarde127
ArmadaUGS122
ViBE27
minikerr10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick5254
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 56
• Berry_CruncH48
• Sammyuel 27
• musti20045 23
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 20
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift5188
Other Games
• imaqtpie2109
• Scarra356
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
8h 58m
Wardi Open
13h 58m
Monday Night Weeklies
16h 58m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 11h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
OSC
3 days
OSC
4 days
All Star Teams
5 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
[ Show More ]
All Star Teams
6 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
OSC
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-10
Big Gabe Cup #3
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Proleague 2026-01-11
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.