On December 11 2011 18:40 evantrees wrote:
I laughed at the Sample Vanilla Town Role PM in the OP and hurray it did fill. I wonder how the hydras will work out.

Yeah lol.

/in

ProfessorBadass

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December 11 2011 15:32 GMT

#129

On December 12 2011 00:28 kitaman27 wrote:
Curu and Erandorr will be playing together as a hydra under the name ProfessorBadass. I knew I should have said no to Palmar/syllo -_-

You sure you want to say no to us?

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ProfessorBadass

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December 11 2011 15:36 GMT

#132

On December 12 2011 00:33 kitaman27 wrote:
I think this one might be more accurate:

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So thats what a Canadian-German Archon looks like O.o

ProfessorBadass

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December 11 2011 15:44 GMT

#135

On December 12 2011 00:38 supersoft wrote:
the canadian part is obviously the one where the look comes from :-D

Racist!

ProfessorBadass

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December 12 2011 05:44 GMT

#229

Well first thing's first:

Palmar is scum.

Palmar and I have a long history of never rolling the same alignment. Since I am Town this game Palmar must indeed be scum.

Also I am running for Mayor.

ProfessorBadass

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December 12 2011 05:45 GMT

#230

This candidacy is endorsed by GMarshal.

ProfessorBadass

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December 12 2011 08:34 GMT

#269

Why am I running for Mayor?

I am infinitely smart, suave, charismatic, modest, able, active, amazing, modest, and honest. And Erandorr's not bad either.

Anyone who has played with me will know I give my all in regards to activity and scumhunting every game that I am in. I will never avoid the game or lose interest. My biggest pet peeve ever is Townies who expect to be mindlessly carried or don't keep an active interest in the game.

Am I a better player than syllogism/Palmar/Radfield? Probably not. But I would not say I am bad either; in nearly all games where I was Town I have rooted out at least one scum and played a part in Town victories. I believe I am more than capable of contributing to Town and I know that I am Town; I do not know that about them.

In regards to Arctocod and Radfield, I would very strongly prefer Arctocod simply based on meta. Palmar's scum play is relatively disinterested and obvious and syllogism's consists of never posting anything. Radfield is a different story though, he twirled the Town around his fingers in LOTR Mafia, securing multiple mislynches and leading the Town by the nose. He would have led Mafia into a crushing victory had a third party not taken him out of the game during the night.

ProfessorBadass

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December 13 2011 18:50 GMT

#527

Alright well I guess it's time I pull myself away from DotA 2 and trough through the thread before I turn into sinani. My brain's been full of checking for runes every 2 minutes and the rage of trying to distinguish which players are horrible on my team.

Radfield/Arctocod are the runaway leaders for offices, I'd like to ideally see it as Radfield Mayor and Palmar Pardoner. Obviously Pardoner is far more powerful and I'd rather see it on the person whose scum play is more transparent. Someone posted asking why I said Palmar is a poor scum player; in every game I've played with him where he is scum he has been thoroughly disinterested and did random scummy crap, making himself apparent very early. Once again Radfield is a much stronger scum player.

Lynch-wise nyczbrandon looks like the obvious choice with a few posts containing absolute crap.

I really don't like what DropBear's posting here:

On December 12 2011 15:09 DropBear wrote:

I don't think voting for any of the hydras is a good idea, they are hydras because they don't have the time/effort to be involved individually. Vote for a single player people.

This just smells like making up a reason to try to fit an agenda. Don't vote for hydras because they don't have time? I think this is the last reason for people to hydra together. For example (I don't know other ones' motivations) my reason for hydra-ing was because Erandorr begged me so he could get the opportunity to play with Liquid`Sheth. Yet even then he doesn't bother to post while I am carrying all day in DotA 2. Talk about ungrateful.

Anyways back to the point this really smells like agenda pushing to justify the election. There is almost no reason to prefer Radfield in office over syllogism/Palmar due to them being roughly equal Town players but Radfield being a far more dangerous scum player. This seems like DropBear fishing for a reason to try to sway Radfield into office; even if Arctocod were to be elected, he's pushing the ensure the other position isn't held by another hydra. This point is further pushed by another player:

On December 12 2011 22:13 risk.nuke wrote:
Curu how can you say Palmars scumplay is obvious? Anyway, okey so basicly Radfield spoke up first on the vote veterans topic and none of the other had any disagreement. Of the involved players I feel most sure on Radfield and we should work together to ensure he becomes Pardoner. I'm not sure who else I want to elect. I don't want to see the Deus-ex or TnTp in office because I think they will be to tough to get a read on. I'm still onsure on The Professor and Arctocod but both I'm leaning against for office

Also GiygaS is scummy bastard.

Hidey ho, another one pushing the same idea as DropBear. No explanation of why he prefers Radfield, same random aversion to having a hydra in office. Note that these posts come in the most crucial time of the election cycle as well, the one where the initial few votes are going to snowball into the situation we have right now.

There isn't time to change the elections obviously but IMO we really should be working to make Arctocod the Pardoner especially with Radfield's push of "the Pardoner isn't strong in Mafia hands anyways." A Mafia Pardoner puts the Mafia win condition at Town - 2, basically ensuring that LYLO comes 3 days early. That's insanely powerful. Yeah you aren't going to be able to use it reliably early in the game but once late game swings around it's a huge boon for Mafia.

I'll post more later. I've read up to page 15 but DotA 2 calls!

ProfessorBadass

94 Posts

December 13 2011 20:35 GMT

#548

Hey Palmar why haven't you suggested your RNG day 1 vote this game? IIRC you've done it every single game lately as Town.

ProfessorBadass

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December 13 2011 20:39 GMT

#552

The cool one obviously.

ProfessorBadass

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December 13 2011 20:43 GMT

#555

no u

ProfessorBadass

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December 13 2011 20:51 GMT

#559

Since when were Nisani or Jitsu under suspicion?

ProfessorBadass

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December 13 2011 20:56 GMT

#563

On December 14 2011 05:52 Radfield wrote:
I don't particularly agree with a sheth vote. He's active, contributing and working out his thoughts in thread. Seems fine to me for now. Zentor should not be lynched today, he looks like the worst lynch of our options. Zeks looks fine, and so does gigyas.

However, I would be completely fine lynching profBadass right now. Nothing I have seen from him so far makes me think he is town. His last post stated he was up to page 15, yet he just responded to arctocod within 1 minute.... so I really hope he's working on a post regarding the last 12 pages.

Refallen and xsksc are also good lynches. I want to look through their history first though.

Not really, I've read the rest. I don't really agree with the cases on either zeks or Zentor, DB/risk.nuke/you remain the most suspicious with the election agenda.

ProfessorBadass

94 Posts

December 13 2011 23:27 GMT

#600

I'm liking Spaackle, DropBear, or risk.nuke as lynches right now. nyczbrandon's posts are hella bad but read a bit more as derp Townie.

ProfessorBadass

94 Posts

December 13 2011 23:28 GMT

#602

Sheth who do you wanna kill?

ProfessorBadass

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December 14 2011 00:13 GMT

#612

I really don't see the deal with Zentor. Nothing in his posts tells me about him either way.

I've already explained my DropBear/risk.nuke/Radfield part. Spaackle's posts just all seem fluff and I didn't like his last big post. He neglected to discuss anyone with any votes or current topics, instead posting about Nisani and Jitsu; would be fine if he thought they were scummy but he brought them up randomly and then called them Town. I don't see the point of writing a big long analysis on two people who aren't in remote danger of being lynched and calling them Town.

It's real easy to call people Town when you're Mafia but accusing people of being Mafia is far tougher.

ProfessorBadass

94 Posts

December 14 2011 00:24 GMT

#617

xsksc what separates Marser from people like nyczbrandon for you? There are tons of people voting for idiotic reasons or abstaining from voting at all.

Just look at how the election went off, sheepvotes aren't exactly the outlier in this game.

ProfessorBadass

94 Posts

December 14 2011 00:29 GMT

#623

I would agree with you if it was sinani, Palmar, but I don't see anything particularly damning about Nisani and he has been trying to actually play the game lately. sinani and Coagulation are the only policy lynches I would absolutely get behind regardless of what they've posted.

On December 14 2011 09:26 Spaackle wrote:
@ProfBA I explained in my last post that I wasn't really doing my analysis in any sort of order, just what order my tabs ended up in. I posted what I had because I needed to leave and I wanted to get at least some information out before I went.

Also, to pick who I analyzed, I skimmed the thread and pulled up the filter of anyone who had been suspected of being scum. My method for doing it may not have been the best, but I'm trying to fix that for the rest of my analysis.

Alright tell me right now who you would like lynched. You're clearly here and have been for at least an hour so your analysis should have found something by now.

ProfessorBadass

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December 14 2011 00:33 GMT

#624

And I don't want "this guy looks Townie" get down and dirty and paint someone red for me.

ProfessorBadass

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December 14 2011 00:39 GMT

#626

Clock's ticking!

You don't need to post a big analysis, just tell me who you've found to be scummy Mr. Spaackle.

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