EPTDid I do it right?
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Velinath
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On December 03 2011 07:52 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: If anyone signs up and isn't active, I'll find you. Just a friendly reminder ^_^ I'll be good, I promise! | ||
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On December 04 2011 11:26 jaybrundage wrote: Sweet lets get this ball rolling. Although to be honesty i never know what to do day one. Yeah, that's about how I feel. Hard to make any progress when nobody's posted anything yet, heh. | ||
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Okay, so from the games I've read, I've noticed a few things. First, lynching lurkers has actually lost a couple of the games I've read. If people are actively scumhunting, we should be able to find better targets than lurkers. That said, if we have no good lynch candidates by, say, two hours before the day ends I'm not opposed to a lurker lynch, as I see lurkers as more likely to be scum (from some articles I've read, lurking is apparently a viable scum strategy). Lynching liars, though, I 100% agree with. I read some articles about when townies have a reason to lie, and none of them swayed my opinion on this - honesty is absolutely the best policy for town-aligned players. Any gambits involving lying to gain information seemed to have a huge potential to backfire and end up having repercussions for multiple townies, and the risk involved isn't worth the possible reward. I'll go ahead and throw this out there for everyone - if you get caught in a lie, you should expect to be lynched the same day. Something that wherebugsgo said earlier in the thread (before the game started) really stood out to me. If someone claims a blue role and another person counterclaims, we should absolutely be lynching them both. Although I don't agree with the strategies he laid out (there are some counters I could see to the listed strategies), I do agree that lynching both a claimant and a counterclaimant provides almost a 100% chance of getting one scum out of it. (Would this count as a policy lynch)? | ||
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On December 04 2011 12:26 xsksc wrote: If we happen to get it wrong and kill the blue, we get a guarenteed scum lynch the next day, so it's not the end of the world Yeah, this was what I was trying to say. I guess I didn't word it too well. On December 04 2011 12:35 xtfftc wrote: Both sound great but in reality they don't work. Lynch All Liars.. People get lies and opinions mixed up all the time, and even when a lie is a lie, eventually you realise that there are different types of lies and lynching for some of them is a bit too much I disagree. I feel like if we simply implement this as a policy lynch now, we will be able to go into the middle of the game and be able to build more effective cases on people given that town would have no reason to create contradictions in their posts. | ||
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Let's implement Lynch All Lurkers conditionally. If we have a case on someone else in the thread, we should use those lynches above a lurker lynch. If we have no good cases on anyone who's been actively posting, THEN lynch a lurker. Yes, lurking is anti-town, but we should be more focused on scumhunting from posts in the thread. Lynching people who are actively trying to misdirect the town should be a better option, right? (Given that, we may want to look at lynching a lurker today, if any remain by tomorrow (that's tomorrow in real time, by the way). I doubt we'll have any strong cases built by the end of day 1.) | ||
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On December 04 2011 13:11 BroodKingEXE wrote: Hey guys! Great to be joining. I think that when we vote we should make sure people did not mispeak. I think that we all need to figure out what we want to do as a group. What do you think? Hi, I assume that when you're talking about people not misspeaking you're referring to Lynch All Liars. What do you think about Lynch All Lurkers as a policy? | ||
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I would like to add that if you see what you think is a lie, it's probably best to bring it to the attention of the thread. I feel that if we implement Lynch All Liars, the posters in this thread will be good judges of what's a lie and what's a misunderstanding. Given that, we can probably safely implement a Lynch All Liars policy. I think we have, what, 3 or 4 people currently in favor of this? If we get three or four more, we can consider this policy implemented, as that will give us an unshakable majority. jaybrundage, what do you think of my modification to Lynch All Lurkers at the bottom of the last page? | ||
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Blazinghand, I completely agree with your idea here. If we lack a case on a poster in the thread, lurkers are, regardless of alignment, anti-town, and they should be lynched in preference to a no-lynch. Given that, ##Vote: Bbite Let's hear from another nonposter. | ||
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On December 04 2011 13:27 xsksc wrote: You guys have to remember, it's 4.26am (fuck sleep I'm playing Skyrim) in some timezones right now, the game only started a few hours ago. Oh, I know I figure it's okay to get some pressure started early, though. I can always rescind this vote later if they post in the thread - we've got 48 hours, after all! | ||
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On December 04 2011 13:35 Adam4167 wrote: We cannot have no-lynches in this game due to the voting rules. Thanks, I spaced on that. I swear I read that earlier! On December 04 2011 13:35 Blazinghand wrote: Another guy with literally 1 post that says nothing. obvious we shouldn't lynch people for misspeaking. And... of COURSE we need to figure out what to do as a group. We VOTE on the lynch. What do I think? I think you're either absurdly unhelpful or a mafioso doing a bad job of blending in. You're the same as the people who haven't posted yet, because YOU HAVEN'T POSTED ANYTHING YET. This is exactly how I feel about this guy as well. It's why I asked him earlier about his opinion on Lynch All Lurkers, and I still haven't heard back on that. It's the one post in the thread that has felt truly scummy to me so far. | ||
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##Vote: Bbyte | ||
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As such, I'm dropping my vote (assuming I'm formatting properly!) and will put it back on if one of our four "lurkers" hasn't posted in the next 12-16 hours. ##Unvote: BByte | ||
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On December 04 2011 14:20 Blazinghand wrote:I want to hear what you have to say. Don't flop around like you did in your first post. Be a man. Do the right thing. On December 04 2011 14:36 BroodKingEXE wrote: Hey Blazinghand sorry if I came around to be a little shady. I was just trying to feed into the conversation, about the voting. How do we want to plan the lynching with the time zone difference? I feel like this will be a major roadblock as it will be 12 AM for our friends in the UK. As for my earlier comment I just wanted to say hi. Did not mean to get off on the wrong foot Hi, this also feels noncontributive. I feel like what Blazinghand was looking for was more of an opinion on one of the matters we've been discussing in the thread. If you wouldn't mind, I'd like to hear what you have to say about the Lynch All Lurkers policy discussed a couple of pages back. Adding questions but no answers isn't really posting content, at least not in my eyes. | ||
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On December 04 2011 13:11 BroodKingEXE wrote: I think that when we vote we should make sure people did not mispeak. What changed your mind, or is this a misstatement? | ||
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On December 04 2011 15:01 ey215 wrote: I'd just like to point out that Blazinghand is calling out people for giving their opinions. I guess if it's not groundbreaking then it's fluff. While I agree with you that just posting a question isn't enough, giving an opinion that agrees with others shouldn't be considered not participating. If we're going to win, the town needs to work together and discouraging newer townies to post by slapping them around when they do is probably not the right answer. What's your opinion on BKEXE right now, considering his third post? While I agree that any content (even agreement) is good content at this point, do you consider his posts contributory? | ||
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On December 04 2011 15:04 xsksc wrote: Blazinghand, don't be so trigger-happy. Day 1 always starts like this, we have nothing to talk about so we create discussions. People aren't posting because there's no meangingful discussion going on. I got some going about policy lynches, we've discussed that to death though. Nobody is "lurking" right now because there is no meaningful discussion going on. Yes, we've discussed it to death among the players who have really given opinions, but that's only half the game. Having other people weigh in on these topics as they check into the game can only be helpful, can't it? | ||
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On December 04 2011 15:15 BroodKingEXE wrote: jay is right that i am new. This is my first game as well (believe it or not), and I'm still contributing (at least, I think so). I feel like we could stand to hear more from you. As jaybrundage said, try to give some opinions. At the moment you're the best scumread I have, and given that, I'd like to hear what you have to say more than what I've heard so far. On December 04 2011 15:18 ey215 wrote: However, we need to be careful about what we define lurking as. If it's just they never post, that's easy. If it's they post, but only a couple lines then that's more of an decision to be made through analysis. I'd rather see a few posts a day that are failry well thought out and longer than a bunch of one liners that don't mean anything. I agree, and I think the town will be able to see that especially as we start building cases. Filtering and seeing one-liners is something that raises a red flag in my eyes. | ||
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