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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 12 2011 14:57 GMT
#29
/in
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 15 2011 12:33 GMT
#105
We are not policy lynching anyone, mainly because even if it was a good idea, we can't afford to in this format. Also there is a 50% chance we have a cop and there are no millers or framers, which means policy lynches are even more retarded.
Meapak's posts caught my attention so far, if you are unhappy about the current state of town, you have to point it to a better direction, you are just complaining without actually being helpful.
I also want to hear from more from hiro. You say you knew errandor was trolling. Explain to me how that was obvious to you, while you argued the merits of blind lynching wbg.
@jay Lynch is not done in a random fashion, it's aimed to hit mafia and produce information. I assume this is your first game? If so please go read some of the previous game and get an idea of how things work. I'm tired of mafia skirting by using noobness as an excuse. As of now you don't give me the feeling you have the town's best interest in mind.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 16 2011 10:10 GMT
#170
I don't like the hiro lynch. I've read his posts and while his logic path is not stellar, his posts seem genuine and doesn't seem like he is trying to hide. I see him arguing controversial issues and not thinking carefully before he posts. Not mafia imo.

People that don't seem genuine to me as of now are Mr.Wiggles (his "atempt" at catching scum was the most optimistic plan ever known to man) and jaydude (seemed intusiastic about mafia, but has posted very little, only one liners without any thought behind and after people's reaction to his posts has gone missing -> good match for inexperienced scum, but a poor choice for a lynch today since I know nothing about his play).

I'm not quite sold on any lynch in particular yet, but I'm against lynching hiro.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 16 2011 10:14 GMT
#172
palmar ninja -_-
fucking butchered enthusiastic so much I felt I needed to correct it
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 16 2011 10:32 GMT
#174
I don't agree. He does seem clueless, but he could be clueless mafia following the flow just as easily. I think a new townie would ask questions and try to get a better explanation on why to lynch wbg before putting in his vote. Kinda hard to say though, new players are kinda my weak spot =/. I wouldn't lynch him today because I'm nowhere near certain on him.

Tell me what you think about Wiggles.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 16 2011 11:18 GMT
#177
I agree with what you said about wiggles and there is always the statistical benefit of lynching wiggles, even when there is no evidence on him =P
But seriously, his posts screams to me "look at me guyz, I'm being helpful and trying to find scum!". He seems to be trying to blend in too hard. I'd rather see some more from him before pushing for his lynch though, hopefully he will comply.

prplhz seems town to me this game, so maybe that means he is mafia? (j/k prpl =P)

errandor is interesting. His play this game is way different than any game I've played with him before, and one thing that's clear for sure is that he is trying his best to win this one. I'm leaning town, mainly because he is arguing against the hiro lynch which seems reasonable to me at this point.

Onto my weak scum suspect, Meapak: what do you think about this guy?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 17 2011 00:13 GMT
#235
Fuck man, there is not much argument against lynching wiggles. No one is really pushing a second candidate (MZ is pushing hiro, but not too strongly, I would expect him to put a lot more effort into it if he was mafia with wiggles).

Jaybrundage is looking real scummy to me and voting wiggles too. =/
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 17 2011 00:19 GMT
#236
Oh nevermind jay didn't vote wiggles, he said he would be fine voting him. Anyway I'm having a hard time tieing wiggles toghether with any other player.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 17 2011 00:57 GMT
#249
...
Alright, lets roll with this.
##Vote: Mr.Wiggles
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 17 2011 01:28 GMT
#261
@Wiggles There is not much you can say that will change my mind tbh. Reading all your posts they come off to me as fabricated and convinient, not actually a genuine thought process of a townie trying to find scum. The only thing that actually bothers me is the lack of resistance against your lynch, but it's indeed possible that you have a non influential player as your partner. You raise a few good points on MZ, but the evidence is kinda of thin imo and it seems like you are streching it to save your own ass. The same with errandor.
The fact that you chose these 2 to acuse seems extremelly convinient to me when the main people calling you out are suspicious of one or the other. It seems you are specifically trying to alter our reads towards you, not actually trying to find scum on our own, and this only makes sense if you are scum yourself.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 17 2011 02:20 GMT
#265
Rofl man, voting wiggles never dissapoints.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 17 2011 03:03 GMT
#268
Wtf chaoser, that's some gross shit.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 18 2011 06:55 GMT
#303
I'm here, I'm pondering which is the best lynch for today. I'll post when I've convinced myself on who to lynch. Wbg doesn't seem scum to me this game. Jay is a possibility, but I'm nowhere near confident on him.
Based on Wiggles posts hiro is a strong possibility since he never mentions him and instead of going for him (which was the best option since a lot of people were suspicious of him) when his ass was on the line, he goes for errandor/mz. Kinda peculiar choice in that situation if hiro was not scum with him. This however goes against my previous read on hiro and he did vote for wiggles on his own, but well sometimes I'm wrong =/.
That being said I don't feel like mafia is ever going to get rid of jay for us, and I don't feel I'm going to get a better read on him any time soon. I'd be fine lynching him today until more information comes in.

##Vote: Jaybrundage

sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 18 2011 10:59 GMT
#306
K I've reflected a bit and I think MZ/jay and maybe hiro (not very likely) are the only people that may be scum. Most likely MZ, but I'm kinda lazy to explain why. If hiro and jay could give their opinions on who they think the last scum is it would be great.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 18 2011 11:10 GMT
#307
WBG I think is town because he didn't attack my credibility even though he could have easily done so and get away with it since I've posted very little in the first 24 hours.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 19 2011 03:13 GMT
#332
God jay I hope you are not town. I'm keeping my vote on you, you just made my case on MZ ridiculous compared to voting you.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 19 2011 04:52 GMT
#336
@jaybrundage Man, do you realise I basically was the main force changing the lynch form hiro onto Wiggles? No one was voting for wiggles before I said I thought hiro was not scum and explained how wiggles "It was a trap for scum!" bullshit made no sense and seemed artificial. I shifted the discussion with palmer towards wiggles and then put in the last vote on him, even though I had cold feet since no one seemed to be defending him.
All this considered there is absolutely no way I'm scum this game and no matter how new you are you should realise this. Also you say I'm scum in all your posts and votes wbg? Only because someone else is voting for him? I swear man, if you are not scum this game mafia is not your thing at all =/
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 19 2011 09:45 GMT
#338
Yeah that was a bit harsh, sorry. I'm just puzzled by his behaviour and it does not fit new townie either.
The one thing that really make me believe he might be scum though and I guess I forgot to point out is this:
On November 19 2011 08:38 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok this is how i see this game so far
1.Palmar
2.Mr Wiggles
3.Wherebugsgo
4.Meapak_Ziphh
5.Erandorr
6.prplhz
7.hiro protagonist
8.jaybrundage
9.Sandroba

1 of 2 MAFIA remaining:
6 of 7 TOWN remaining:

While im obviously town i left it out because some people are suspicious of me.
hm im still not sure if Hiro is town or not maybe hes just bad in pressure I still find it wierd that he FOSed Meapak as well as Wiggles

That leaves me
WBG
and
Sandroba
I have to go look over there posts a bit more but considering WBG didnt vote for Mr.Wiggles and Sandroba's Vote was after i waited for him he took forever

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On November 17 2011 09:13 sandroba wrote:
Fuck man, there is not much argument against lynching wiggles. No one is really pushing a second candidate (MZ is pushing hiro, but not too strongly, I would expect him to put a lot more effort into it if he was mafia with wiggles).

Jaybrundage is looking real scummy to me and voting wiggles too. =/

He though i already voted Wiggles if i had it would of been majority however i was holding my vote plz dont ask me why its dumb (sigh ok i wanted to be the decided vote to feel like a badass and shit yes dumb i know)


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On November 17 2011 09:19 sandroba wrote:
Oh nevermind jay didn't vote wiggles, he said he would be fine voting him. Anyway I'm having a hard time tieing wiggles toghether with any other player.

And this could be seen as a soft defense as Wiggles Keep in Mind i was waiting on Sandrobas vote

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On November 17 2011 09:02 jaybrundage wrote:
And we need sandrobas vote asap



I have to go over WBG posts a bit more before i comment about him


This is some backwards logic to saying someone is scum unless you are already sure of wiggles alignment beforehand. Doesn't make sense for a newbie townie to be behaving like that and waiting to vote on wiggles since at that point no one was 100% sure on his alignment. Doesn't make sense on calling me out for taking long to vote for wiggles, since I even hammered the vote. That's scum logic right there transpiring in his backwards train of thought.

My whole case on meapak was based on him weak pushing hiro day1 and wiggles trying to distance himself from him. I don't feel like typing it up cuz I feel there is good odds on jay flipping scum, so I'll save myself the trouble. Especially after he posted his case on WBG, which DOES seem authentic, so he gets townie points from that.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 19 2011 11:23 GMT
#340
@Errandor I commented on that already in a previous post. I had a town read on hiro day1, but wiggles not going for him when his ass was on the line seems a bit strange. It can be explained if he thought he wouldn't be able to convince me/palmar hiro was scum OR hiro was indeed scum with him. Hiro is missing though, he said 12 hours but it's been way more than that =/. I wanna hear what he has to say about today's lynch.
What's your take on today? Who you think is the best lynch?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
November 19 2011 12:43 GMT
#341
The fact that jay explains why he voted wiggles after he was already lynched shows that he already knew that he would be lynched at 5 votes, so it was a concious act. He was holding off on voting and the explanation he provided as to why may only be logical given acess to extra info (knowing wiggles is scum). The more I think about it, the more I'm confident he will flip red.
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