EPTperfect chance for me to get into it :D
Edit: D; I'll take a replacement spot and get in on the next one. I'll follow it anyway so I lose my newbiehood.
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Sermokala
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perfect chance for me to get into it :D Edit: D; I'll take a replacement spot and get in on the next one. I'll follow it anyway so I lose my newbiehood. | ||
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Hell Its about time. | ||
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God damm I've wanted to vote him so hard from before this game got into the teen pages. Every post that I've seen him post just oozes scum. Next skrammen dies. They've both scum or we're all dead we don't have a choice at this point before people get paranoid that I'm scum. | ||
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Exhibit 1. On October 31 2011 17:31 Toadesstern wrote: He just turned out to attack me and since I know I'm not mafia that does sound a bit strange to me reasons a threat to onesself and then references that "he knows hes not mafia". his first moves in this very thread are counter to another instead of just srugging off and trying to elaborate on someone else. Smart scum moves proving his guilt. Exhibit 2 On November 01 2011 01:54 hacklebeast wrote: ## vote toadesstern I think his moves have been shady since the beginning. First tries to get the important figures to revel themselves (not explicitly, but if a lurker suddenly started posting significantly after it would give mafia a good clue), then follows it up with a lot of talk about the necessity to kill lurkers. To top it off he fingers chocolate only to rescind his vote after no one else follows suit. Switches up his game then (this is page 13) going from randomly choseing someone rescinds this and then trys to get a lynch to happen without justifying it. simple slight of hand to remove any question to himself about anything while achieving his end goal as a scum. Exhibit 4 On November 03 2011 20:21 Toadesstern wrote: wtf is this hyshes. I am almost certain harb's green. I'm not going to stop voteing for you because of those 3 posts and to tell the truth all 3 aren't exactly looking town. I've got my vote on hyshes as well ## Vote Hyshes Also how do you know we got a dt? We don't have to have one. Yeah couple of people look blue but they could be medics as well or one medic one dt or whatever. And btw that could be a reason why mafia did not go for obvious lynches as well. Maybe they feared there actually is a medic who would get a hero safe on someone like ciry on day1. A townie is just not going to say "yeah go ahead and lynch me" just because of one vote, no matter how strong the case. He would try to defend and tell the guy where his mistake is to make sure he's not getting lynched because after all, a 100% townie lynch is worse than a 90% townie lynch. After all you know for certain if you are town or not. I did the same although I phrased it a little bit different. I told you to lynch either skrammen or me as I thought it's the only majoritys we're going to get today and since I know I'm not mafia I went for skrammen because I thought he's something about 50% town which is still better than a lynch on me. Accepts bait But guess what happened to one of the guys who voted for him? Risk is dead and he was a townie. easy clean mafia tactics by toad here. Exhibit 5. On November 03 2011 20:25 Toadesstern wrote: Also if you REALLY know 3 scums + dt (however that's possible) there would be no problem to tell us. Yeah our dt would die but who cares if we got a 100% proof list of those 3 scums (which is never going to happen). So that last post just makes no sense. Maybe you got a decent idea, I think I got a decent idea of who might be blue and who might be mafia too but I'm not going to be as bold to say I'm 100% sure. Additionally a DT really hasn't that much extra information. I'd say (that is if we got one!) he either checked skrammen or me on night1. So he either knows if I'm red/green or if skrammen is red/green but that's still 9 people left (11 - 1 he checked - himself) he's completly unaware of. this is the most oozing post for me. If someone came out and said that they know who the scums and dt is they would be imediatly cast into doubt with little evidence and the real scums would pounce on that. then he goes on about his "idea" of whos scum and only gets away withoutsaying anything about it by saying that hes not "bold". /vote Toadesstern and thats all I'm going to do for my first couple posts. made a bunch of mistakes but I'm sure I'll get into this just fine. | ||
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tomarrow morning I'll have more posts. I've got to catch everyone up one up on my reads and stuff. that will take a while. I'll be doing that tomarrow. Can't wait to really get into this game. | ||
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Skrammen has been lurking enough to be scum to me with responding only to other people and heavily quoting other peoples posts. Its an opposite I know to toads more spammy amount of posts but I see effort to hide scum status by the both of them I'm just more sure of toad at this point. Hes been supporting the lynching of people who arn't popular to lynch which I totally think that hes doing to distance himself from the other scums and/or trying to block lynching on the whole. I don't buy any of this drem is scum he seems just like a townie or maybe something more. but not scum. What I don't think people have been putting enough focus on is a few other people. HarbingerOfDoom He seems really experienced. or hes putting way too much effort into being a "veteran" townie and has been leading a lot of the lynches I think to this point. With all of them being wrong and poorly supported I don't trust him and I think more people should be questioning him. He has too much confidence I feel for someone trying to find out whos going to kill him and I don't like that. He is the first to post and apologies for starting the wagon that killed hy? hy said that toad was scum and accused hod and was cast away for this. IMABUNNEH Hes british and I found out that I'm ancestrally from Belgium and that makes me suspicious on how he expects everyone to not think hes a lurker scum while other people have been called out for it. HOD has been calling out other people but not him while he supports the lynch votes of HOD and that has really been getting the bandwagon rolling. Chocolate Gets voted and then goes on a really active streak and then goes back to being a lurker. I don't want to go on a whichhunt alone but tomorrow I think we need to take a longer look at him if we don't get a mafia this time around. I'm going to be honest if toad isn't scum I don't know what I'm going to do. | ||
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I'm going to go though HOD's initial response to me (I didn't get around to doing that sorry) and then the trainwreck of what happened last night. Its obviously a scum switch I feel that they just won the game. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On November 05 2011 14:30 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: @sermokala You still did nothing to address this: Analysis is important, but make it good. I have some questions regarding yours: What does this sentence even mean? You have nothing listed as exhibit number 3, did you mean to post more? If so, why did you remove it? In exhibit 4, if the voting for Hyshes is an implication of being scum, can you please explain why everyone else voting for him isn't scum as well? Also, does that imply you believe me to be scum for starting the case against Hyshes? Also, from Toad 5 hours before your exhibit 5, in regards to him 'not saying' his reads: Also, at the time of your exhibit he is voting for Hyshes, so clearly he thought Hyshes is scum as well. Don't abuse a lack of context with quoting, it is a scummy thing to do. I accept exhibit two and the point about him being a benefactor from Risk's death. Exhibit one I don't understand so I cannot comment on. Also, this won't fly: Expect me to drill you on everything until I have a good read on you. Feel free to help out by posting lots of your reads and explanations for them. A good starting point would be answering my original question regarding Skrammen/Toad. Additionally, I would like your reads on Chocolate and xsksc, along with an explanation of course. 1. Bandwagoning is the most effective strategy of the mafia. If you can get a train started on someone thats not mafia its worth it to organize the whole mafia to support it. His vote I feel really started the train. 2. yeah this point was legit I was trying to do too much with too little text. His first post (of many) was in response to someone else. Not only that he was countering what someone else said and then proceded to go on with his agenda I feel to get the mafia to win. I just think thats an obvious strategy to not make an initial mistake with a lot of him being nervous about starting off wrong and instead just sneaking into the game and rolling with confidence that he will win. the argument with risk I think was him making a mistake and killing him but I think he and the rest of the mafia was willing to take that minor risk to take out a threat. 3. there is no 3 It came off really werid and had some mlp references. 4. Again It was a bandwagon that you started. going with a bandwagon is bad play but supporting it and starting it is I feel a really scummy atribute. 5. I did I admit base this off of old information It was my first post and I was digging though all the pages but it was just 5 hours before I posted. Your review of everyone was really good. I think toad has been supporting someone else in a diversion and then being a good swing vote to help out the mafia. It was really funny with chocolate but then again if the guy who supports me is a townie and was killed that helps my case of being a townie? Both of those lines where sarcasm and an attempt at humor both of which I realize now doesn't help in this game which I do enjoy I think. God damm when we find out whos scum and if ones not toad I'm going to be so shocked. I have no idea where the chocolate lynch came from and I don't have enough stuff on xsksc to go either way. he could be a scum trying to hide the best he can or just a guy whos afraid of saying something wrong and getting instalynched. Alright now lets talk about what happened yesterday. scum congrats you pretty much win the game. Its almost impossible for them to lose at this point and its been a quick well done game by them. coordination between them has been spot on I feel and I have no idea how they could screw it up when the sides are even. On November 07 2011 09:32 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: @All Are there enough people on/will be on before the deadline to make a push for a lynch on chocolate instead? I know he was at least on the suspicion list of a number of people. Alternately, enough Toad/Drem people willing to switch to Skrammen to make that happen instead? So this starts it. I can understand drem trying to get something started that gets away from him but after his post theres a complete lockout of any question about toad being lynched dispite him being the most voted at this point. The evidence on chocolate is complety null compared to a bunch of other people and that clearly points to the scum knowing hes a town. Genius move by scum to get him killed and I think this was the last gamble for hod and toad to win the game and everyone who was on still fell for it and now they're an inch away from winning. The fact that hod didn't pick up on this with his posts in this thread further solidify him being scum for me. On November 07 2011 09:04 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Sorry I've been rather busy the last ~40 hours or so and my approach to this lynch have been more half-assed than I would like, sometimes real life happens, even to us nerds. if you really do turn out to be scum hod this wins the thread. you where the first to start the bandwagon I think and then the last to vote in it. Gosuest move yet. I can't really nail down who else could be scum for this vote. I didn't think hod was so sure to be scum before this at least on the level of toad but now hes a lock in my book along with toad. remember scum knows whos scum as well. as so they know who isn't scum. I know this post doesn't live up to the hype that I gave it but thats just it. | ||
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On November 08 2011 09:43 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: @Sermokala So would that make your scum list: Me, Toad, Ciryandor? where the hell did you get ciryandor? Idk whos the 3rd right now. either or my fos is on drem, bunneh or skrammen. xsksc as a dark horse. | ||
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I got nothing. I'm shocked. | ||
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Ciryandor IMABUNNEH Skrammen Drem903 xsksc Zanfada HarbingerOfDoom so 3 of these guys want to kill me. 4 of them don't. I'm guessing we don't have some grand tail in all things and their coach told them to get their ninja on. HOD and Ciry have talked up a bit and drem's been accused too much for me to think that hes actually scum. so xsksc zafada and bunneh I guess at this point. No chance of me being able to convince everyone else of this at this point so idk. Hod you got some sort of game plan? | ||
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everything I see is small chances. Small chances that the medic claims small chances that its the real medic and the scum doesn't counter claim or sow just one more day of discord in us. I guess small chances are all we got. everyone claims a pony to their name and we deduce the scum from their pick? idk I'm going to read though the thread tomarrow morning and see if I can get something. | ||
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Skrammens scum end of story. | ||
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yeah I guess I should have done this earlier. | ||
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You people are the dumbest sheep ever. Hod,skrammen, and drem are the mafia. GG wp | ||
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On November 10 2011 15:39 Zanfada wrote: I agree our situation is dire. But Ciry posted voting with time stamps The last 3 votes happened within an hour of each other. It could be that they came to a consensus to vote for Skram and then just voted instead of spreading out their votes over the course of the day. It’s a bit of a reach but it is something. I came to the conclusion of voteing for him a while before I actually put the vote in. how is having 4:3 any better then having 5:3? I honestly have no idea what you where thinking with that post if you weren't scum. What do you want us all to do tomorrow? you think that the mafias kill tonight will be giving any information to help us? again the games over no sense trying to analyze anything anymore. | ||
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