Pick Your Power Interesting!

On October 13 2011 01:21 Jackal58 wrote:

Yours isn't a plan as much as it's common sense.


Sorry then. Sounds like the same type of scenario though. A list is put forth. Scum shit all over it.

On October 13 2011 03:35 JimboSilvers wrote:
Rad, Assassin is not as powerful as you seem to think it is. The only thing that is better about it then a normal day-vig is that it's anonymous, and can shoot during the night. The thing that is worse, is that if you are ever wrong about your guess, you become essentially vanilla, and you are outed to the rest of the thread. Because you have to specify the family of the mafia, that makes this extremely hard to use unless you have an extractor on your team. (And imo, just getting a vig would be better than using half your family's picks on 1KP.) It's an OK role, but nothing game breaking.

The downside to assigning the top spots is that everyone then knows where those roles are. Particularly mafia. There will always be two parties with KP that know they didn't get role X in the top 6, and that it's a powerful role. It's going to turn it into a killing ground that will end with everyone dead. By not assigning roles there you leave open the possibility that people will pick BP, or Vet, and suddenly it's a less attractive place to park your bullet.

Assassin shouldn't be on that list because as you your self said, it's able to work while remaining hidden. If you can't tell if the assassin is being used, or is responsible for a certain kill, how are you going to enforce accountability with that role?

Think of it this way: In a game with more than two parties, you HAVE to try to do good things for you, not bad things to them, because any action you take to benefit yourself will be three times as beneficial as any action you take to harm them, because you must harm THREE other parties.

This is an oversimplification, but to make myself clear, if you have four teams and each start with 0 points, when you give yourself 1 point, you are 1 point ahead of everyone. If you take a point away from another team, you are one point ahead of ONE person. You'd have to take away one point from each team to get the same net gain.

I believe that that principal will still apply to this situation despite the fact that it's more complicated.

I'm not dead set in this thinking, but currently it is what makes the most sense to me.

On October 13 2011 03:56 chaoser wrote:


Mafia might know where inventor is but so would medics?

@sandroba, I understand the hole let mafia fight over roles thing but the fact of the matter is, even if they fight over it, SOMEONE is going to get the inventor. SOMEONE is going to get the assassin. I'd rather know where they are and who has it than not know where it is and not know who has it. Town doesn't necessarily have to get those roles. As long as we know who has it and where it is, we have total control over the role. Ver (I think) talked about this in previous PYP games where he said CPR doc/CV is a horrible pick for mafia since you'll probably be controlled by town as long as they know where you are and who has it. So lets get some accountability up in this mother.