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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 11:54:25
September 20 2011 13:26 GMT
#1
EDIT Oct. 9th
Loner aquired his visa successfully, so the 2 Chinese representatives at BlizzCon will be (Z)Toodming and (T)Loner.

EDIT Sept.28th:
Update: Blizzard is in the process of helping the players applying for the visa for 2nd time, former BW-pro Toodming has successfully acquired his visa and Xigua, Uhen and Loner are underway, the players that get visa or finished higher in the qualifier will go to Anaheim next month.

Sources from multiple Chinese esports news sites suggest due to unforeseen (or foreseen) US visa problems, the 2 BlizzCon Invitational Chinese qualifier winners, (Z)iG.XiGua and (Z)Tyloo.Uhen, will not be able to participate in the BlizzCon Global Battle.Net Invitational on October 21st-22nd at Anaheim, California.

According to a World of Warcraft Arena 3v3 participant, they "get almost everything needed or unneeded ready to the embassy, including past US visit records, but get declined almost instantly." The 2 WoW arena teams and the 2 SC2 players' visa application all get rejected, only the SC2 map maker contest winner made it.

It's yet unknown whether there will be substitutes, or Blizzard will try to negotiate with the US embassy.

Source: sc2.178.com
WoW Fansite bbs.ngacn.cc

Edit: Please refrain from bashing both governments or take the topic to a political discussion, let's keep it within esports.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 20 2011 13:28 GMT
#2
/facepalm

Really?! VISA comes back to fuck over SC2.

They're almost as good at starcraft as Kespa were back in BW ffs
memes are a dish best served dank
iglocska
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway589 Posts
September 20 2011 13:30 GMT
#3
Wow, this really sucks Hope they do end up getting it fixed though!
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
September 20 2011 13:32 GMT
#4
Maybe the US offcials misread it as programmers instead of progamers? I hope they can make it.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 20 2011 13:33 GMT
#5
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-
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Calasmere
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom161 Posts
September 20 2011 13:35 GMT
#6
On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-

Well, I don't think half as many Americans go to China as Chinese people going to America.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
September 20 2011 13:35 GMT
#7
Its entirely silly to deny visas for a 2 day video game tournament. The US is pretty unbelievable sometimes.
secret - never again
RoK Ot7Er
Profile Joined June 2010
United States219 Posts
September 20 2011 13:37 GMT
#8
On September 20 2011 22:28 marttorn wrote:
/facepalm

Really?! VISA comes back to fuck over SC2.

They're almost as good at starcraft as Kespa were back in BW ffs


I think you're confusing VISA the credit card company with a visa, a document required to enter a country if you are not a citizen of that country.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 20 2011 13:40 GMT
#9
Blizzard is a large company so I'm sure they'll be more than influential enough.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
September 20 2011 13:42 GMT
#10
On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-

There were many many cases that people leave China for whatever reasons (tourists, work related,...) and never came back to China. They most likely are afraid of talent bleeding than stupid stuffs like politics and security.
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
September 20 2011 13:42 GMT
#11
Blizzard could not workout TB's visa problems so I would not put too much faith into them.

But really, visas are ruining esports

(living in eu gives you tons of advantages in that regard, thank god).
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
September 20 2011 13:42 GMT
#12
If Blizzard couldn't help TB when he has visa issues I seriously doubt they can help now * Sighs*
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
September 20 2011 13:42 GMT
#13
It's because of the innate US/china situation.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
jackrandomsx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States24 Posts
September 20 2011 13:45 GMT
#14
Post 9/11 it's become very difficult to enter the US from any nation that doesnt have visa exemptions. it's terrible what's happened here.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
September 20 2011 13:53 GMT
#15
On September 20 2011 22:45 jackrandomsx wrote:
Post 9/11 it's become very difficult to enter the US from any nation that doesnt have visa exemptions. it's terrible what's happened here.


which is strange because the states needs more money and chinese tourists spends the most

weird, being chinese but with an australian passport, i got my usa visa just fine. i doubt this was anything politically related....but who knows :S
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
September 20 2011 13:55 GMT
#16
It could be something as simple as a missing paper or form filled out incorrectly. I hope the players/Blizzard can work with the embassy and get these players here to compete
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
bellhop
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States165 Posts
September 20 2011 13:57 GMT
#17
On September 20 2011 22:42 ladyumbra wrote:
If Blizzard couldn't help TB when he has visa issues I seriously doubt they can help now * Sighs*


Don't quote me verbatim, but I think TB's visa issues extended beyond that of a typical visa denial. His name appeared on the terrorist watch list (by mistake, obviously, unless he's really killing eSports...), and he was detained and interrogated for a long time before he was sent back to England. There's a podcast or forum post out there where he explains the whole ordeal.

That being said, it's sad to hear that these great players can't compete for two days in the United States. Hopefully things get resolved.
Ceci n'est pas une disloqueur.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
September 20 2011 13:58 GMT
#18
On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-


The reason is very simple. Because US bureaucracy is horrible and way behind the times. That America shoots itself in the foot to deny tourists $$$$ out of the stupid fear of "taking American jobs that no one else wants" is retarded to say the least.

You are correct in that there's no "logical" reason why this should be the case. What? They fear Xigua will take Idra's job as America's BM zerg player and put Idra out of a job? It's ludicrous, but that's actually their fear.
Meh
Spinfusor
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 13:59:50
September 20 2011 13:59 GMT
#19
EDIT: Misinterpreted.
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
September 20 2011 13:59 GMT
#20
you have got to be kidding me, sigh -_-
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