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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10813 Posts
September 20 2011 15:27 GMT
#61
For me it's simple:
It's fucking stupid that you need a visa for such a short stay.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 20 2011 15:50 GMT
#62
I was about to get my EG-conspiracy-hat on, but then I remembered that they don't have a player that qualified.

It's important to find something to joke about in these sad times. I hope it will get sorted out.
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 20 2011 16:09 GMT
#63
Blizzard should be able to smooth things over EZPZ. OK?
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Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
September 20 2011 16:14 GMT
#64
Wow, denied immediately? You can't let a few people stay for a few days? At least one somebody somewhere in a US embassy in China is fucking retarded.
Logic is Overrated
TheLight
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 16:21:43
September 20 2011 16:18 GMT
#65
On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-


The key difference is that players are coming to the US in order to "work" temporarily and possibly win money. Thus, they need a different VISA than the usual tourist one.

EDIT: They'll need a Business Visitor Visa (B-1).
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backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
September 20 2011 16:21 GMT
#66
On September 21 2011 01:09 Medrea wrote:
Blizzard should be able to smooth things over EZPZ. OK?


No they will not.... lol

Should we blame the states for not allowing them in or China for denying them?
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
September 20 2011 16:27 GMT
#67
one of the only opportunities we get to see a Chinese players gets shot down
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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 16:31:06
September 20 2011 16:28 GMT
#68
On September 20 2011 23:08 zocktol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-


Maybe China does not want them to know what FREEDOM is like.

All joking aside, i don't really get it either other chinese athletes are constantly allowed into foreign countries to basically gain fame for their country, maybe Blizzard needs to try that angle.

aww

Is that possible? would be interesting if that worked... heh
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Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
September 20 2011 16:28 GMT
#69
I've been to China as an American and it wasn't very difficult to get a visa. They like the tourism; it brings money in.
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 20 2011 16:36 GMT
#70
why do people blame the embassy for this. It's most likely Blizzard's fault for not putting in the request the right way, or more likely not putting it in at all, leaving players to apply themselves for a work visa for some "fictitious" multi-thousand dollar game tournament. LOL!
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
September 20 2011 16:37 GMT
#71
The US is pretty tough to get into if you're not from a Commonwealth or NATO country. Everyone else is a suspected communist spy. I recall Russians having a terribly hard time going to the US for Starcraft tournaments because of their communist legacy.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
September 20 2011 16:38 GMT
#72
On September 21 2011 01:28 nalgene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 23:08 zocktol wrote:
On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-


Maybe China does not want them to know what FREEDOM is like.

All joking aside, i don't really get it either other chinese athletes are constantly allowed into foreign countries to basically gain fame for their country, maybe Blizzard needs to try that angle.

aww

Is that possible? would be interesting if that worked... heh

lol at people who fail to realize that it's the US embassy that is making problem, a visa is not delivered by the state where you come from.
They probably can't use a tourism visa, so that's probably why things are completly retarded. Honestly TSA and visa delivery is absolutely retarded, I don't know if Americans realize how bad it is. They even ask you if you are a terrorist/killed someone in your country etc when you enter the country... bureaucracy at its finest.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
September 20 2011 16:39 GMT
#73
Wanted to see those chinese players T.T
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Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
September 20 2011 16:42 GMT
#74
Noooooooooo I wanted to see Xigua tear it up. So sad now T T

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Drolla
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom389 Posts
September 20 2011 16:42 GMT
#75
I have my doubts that the Chinses players will be allowed into America even if Blizzard talk directly to the US Embassy. Oh well, here's hoping I'm wrong.
Sighstorm
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands116 Posts
September 20 2011 16:44 GMT
#76
On September 20 2011 22:42 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-

There were many many cases that people leave China for whatever reasons (tourists, work related,...) and never came back to China. They most likely are afraid of talent bleeding than stupid stuffs like politics and security.

I think it was the US that denied the visa in this case, not China... but if i remember correctly there was once a big Magic tournie in Japan and a Chineese player had to pay a deposit to make sure he'd return.

I hope this will be resolved, because i'm interested to see what kind of playstyles and talent China has to offer. It's sad if they can't come to BlizzCon because of a lack of knowledge about this scene by embassies.
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
September 20 2011 16:45 GMT
#77
On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-

Well hypocrisy is a big theme in US foreign policy. I suppose it is a curse of all politics actually. People will of course point to the idea that Chinese people are likely to enter the US and stay as illegal migrants but much of this concept is just orientalism.
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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 16:48:24
September 20 2011 16:47 GMT
#78
Getting an US Visa is actually incredibly difficult as of the last few years. My fiancee is from Spain and we have to jump through quite a few hoops for her previous tourist VISA and her current K-1 VISA. Basically they are super strict about EVERY detail and also if your case is processed by the Vermont center you're fucked as far as I can tell because their wait times are like two three month longer than the other centers.

Also doesn't XiGua mean "watermelon"? ahahahahaha
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
September 20 2011 16:48 GMT
#79
On September 21 2011 01:38 Jetaap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 01:28 nalgene wrote:
On September 20 2011 23:08 zocktol wrote:
On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-


Maybe China does not want them to know what FREEDOM is like.

All joking aside, i don't really get it either other chinese athletes are constantly allowed into foreign countries to basically gain fame for their country, maybe Blizzard needs to try that angle.

aww

Is that possible? would be interesting if that worked... heh

lol at people who fail to realize that it's the US embassy that is making problem, a visa is not delivered by the state where you come from.
They probably can't use a tourism visa, so that's probably why things are completly retarded. Honestly TSA and visa delivery is absolutely retarded, I don't know if Americans realize how bad it is. They even ask you if you are a terrorist/killed someone in your country etc when you enter the country... bureaucracy at its finest.

That made me laugh when my sister told me that there was checkbox on the entry form to US that basically asked if she was a terrorist I wonder how many people check that box. But American visa system is rather bad as it depends a lot on subjective opinion of the guy deciding. If he does not like you that is enough reason to deny visa. It is still not as bad as I heard it is in Japan, but still.
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
September 20 2011 16:50 GMT
#80
too bad
will be interesting to see who replaces them
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