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On September 20 2011 22:58 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_- The reason is very simple. Because US bureaucracy is horrible and way behind the times. That America shoots itself in the foot to deny tourists $$$$ out of the stupid fear of "taking American jobs that no one else wants" is retarded to say the least. You are correct in that there's no "logical" reason why this should be the case. What? They fear Xigua will take Idra's job as America's BM zerg player and put Idra out of a job? It's ludicrous, but that's actually their fear.
Oh calm the fuck down. I'm a Chinese citizen who emigrated to the US years ago. It isn't an easy process, especially if you don't have a US company or University to sponsor you. The number of Chinese people trying to get green cards to the United States FAR surpasses the number of Americans trying to go to China. A lot of Chinese looking to get into the US use very "creative" reasons in their applications. More than likely some border agent saw that their app said something like "video game tournament" and got suspicious. I'm disappointed in this too but overblowing this issue into "America is terrible rah rah rah" doesn't help anybody.
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That's just awful. Feel so bad for the players.
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But if the chinese players don't come, who will make infinite blink stalkers?
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On September 21 2011 03:18 darkscream wrote:
But if the chinese players don't come, who will make infinite blink stalkers?
I misread this...I thought you were suggesting that they just blink into the U.S. =P
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Edit: Read the OP post edit and don't want to continue this argument
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-.- Yea, the department of immigration is killing esports. We were finally get Chinese peeps at an international LAN and then visas fuck it up 
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Wow. Was looking forward to seeing some new Chinese talent in a major tournament for once. So sad
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Unbelievable. Sucks for the players.
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I was really looking forward to seeing these guys play.
Hopefully Blizzard can get in touch with whoever needs to be convinced - it's pretty hard to deny that they genuinely are going to play at a tournament set up by a multi-billion dollar company with plenty of publicity if you spend even five minutes researching it.
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Administrative Officer looks at application. Thinks:
"All the way across the Pacific for a computer game? They must be making this up."
"Even if they aren't, why risk the possibility that they will become Illegal immigrants? After all, if their only skill is computer games, then I don't want them here."
PETITION DENIED
I don't know. Maybe it goes like that, especially since they're from China, a place a lot of people would like to escape, especially kids who spend a lot of time in front of a computer and see how good US of America has it politically and socially.
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wow again... visa problems strike again
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Visa issues - killing esports since 2000.
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I hope Blizzard can do something, they should be able to justify the visa, especially because Activision-Blizzard is so big.
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Sad times. Can they not go with the #2 or #3 player? Seems lame to just completely leave China out. (I know it says unknown in the OP, was wondering if any other news on it had come out since).
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On September 22 2011 01:29 Roggay wrote:
I hope Blizzard can do something, they should be able to justify the visa, especially because Activision-Blizzard is so big.
Even having a sponsor internal to the US isn't guaranteed to get the application approved regardless of how large the corporation is.
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It's a shame that esports isn't big enough yet for them to be considered professional athletes. If they were this certainly wouldn't be a problem (have you ever heard of an US Open player being denied a VISA?).
On the other hand, i understand why the US custom regulations have to be harsh, illegal immigrants are a big problem, and there is a fairly sizeable chinese minority already in place in the USA.
I hope Blizzard-Activision helps them, or at least sorts out some kind of solution for such problems in the future. Considering how big a market China is for them, it shouldn't be impossible to invest into a staffer who tries to sort out such problems ahead of time.
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I don't understand why it's so hard to get visas to the US. Even TB didn't get in, and I doubt USA get a huge amount of illigal immigrants from England. Seems like such a closed country really. Norway have a shitload of illigal immigrants aswell (at least if you compare it to how few people actually live here) but it's not hard to get into the country if you have papers that prove that you are who you are and you got a job of some sorts.
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Maybe the US thought they were Chinese spies? Doesn't China do a lot of cyberhacking?
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Didn't know about TB visa issues, thast pretty ridiculous...
I say if TB is out of luck, so are these players.
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On September 22 2011 02:01 Sandro wrote:
Maybe the US thought they were Chinese spies? Doesn't China do a lot of cyberhacking? I don't know if China does a lot of cyberhacking or not, but what I do know is that cyberhacking doesn't require the person hacking to be in the same country as what he's hacking. That's kinda the point.
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