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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
September 20 2011 16:50 GMT
#81
On September 21 2011 01:48 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 01:38 Jetaap wrote:
On September 21 2011 01:28 nalgene wrote:
On September 20 2011 23:08 zocktol wrote:
On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-


Maybe China does not want them to know what FREEDOM is like.

All joking aside, i don't really get it either other chinese athletes are constantly allowed into foreign countries to basically gain fame for their country, maybe Blizzard needs to try that angle.

aww

Is that possible? would be interesting if that worked... heh

lol at people who fail to realize that it's the US embassy that is making problem, a visa is not delivered by the state where you come from.
They probably can't use a tourism visa, so that's probably why things are completly retarded. Honestly TSA and visa delivery is absolutely retarded, I don't know if Americans realize how bad it is. They even ask you if you are a terrorist/killed someone in your country etc when you enter the country... bureaucracy at its finest.

That made me laugh when my sister told me that there was checkbox on the entry form to US that basically asked if she was a terrorist I wonder how many people check that box. But American visa system is rather bad as it depends a lot on subjective opinion of the guy deciding. If he does not like you that is enough reason to deny visa. It is still not as bad as I heard it is in Japan, but still.


Yes, such a checkbox exists.
Yes, I am ashamed of my government for including it.
No, I didn't vote for any of these people.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12587 Posts
September 20 2011 16:53 GMT
#82
On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-

it happens quite often. Visa is always extremely complicated/simple, if they don't like you, they can find lots of reasons to reject it
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
bubl100500
Profile Joined March 2011
Ukraine538 Posts
September 20 2011 16:57 GMT
#83
Well this sucks But i hope blizzard will replace them with koreans!
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
September 20 2011 17:06 GMT
#84
Man, this sucks for China and SC2. Wonder who is causing the holdup, the US government or the Chinese?
"After I reconquer Ba Sing Se, I'm going to reconquer my tea shop! And I'm going to play Pai Sho every day."
RavenLoud
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1100 Posts
September 20 2011 17:06 GMT
#85
Governments killing E-sports.
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
September 20 2011 17:09 GMT
#86
On September 20 2011 22:58 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-


The reason is very simple. Because US bureaucracy is horrible and way behind the times. That America shoots itself in the foot to deny tourists $$$$ out of the stupid fear of "taking American jobs that no one else wants" is retarded to say the least.

You are correct in that there's no "logical" reason why this should be the case. What? They fear Xigua will take Idra's job as America's BM zerg player and put Idra out of a job? It's ludicrous, but that's actually their fear.


Stop frothing at the mouth and calm down. There are different classes of visa, the players im sure did not apply for a work visa, which is what they would need to get a job.
Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
September 20 2011 17:11 GMT
#87
I don't get it. Why don't they just use MasterCard if their Visa is rejected?
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 20 2011 17:13 GMT
#88
This is retarded by the US embassy. They are not just any random Chinese, with Blizzard's invitation they got the best guarantee as one can gets and still got denied?
Hope that Blizzard can work something out since this is very frustrating for they players, they fought thru the Chinese qualify for nothing O_O? T_T
Terran
arsenic
Profile Joined January 2009
United States163 Posts
September 20 2011 17:13 GMT
#89
Just as a point of clarification, to apply for a visa, you go to talk to US officials in China. It is the US denying the players a visa and therefore entry into the US, not China denying them. This is why Blizzard may talk to the US Embassy in China to resolve this issue as they are the ones in charge of who gets a visa and who does not.
Galaxy613
Profile Joined March 2011
United States148 Posts
September 20 2011 17:14 GMT
#90
On September 21 2011 02:11 Reason.SC2 wrote:
I don't get it. Why don't they just use MasterCard if their Visa is rejected?


They don't have a MasterCard, and their American Express card expired weeks ago. :[
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 20 2011 17:14 GMT
#91
On September 21 2011 02:06 SgtPepper wrote:
Man, this sucks for China and SC2. Wonder who is causing the holdup, the US government or the Chinese?

The Chinese has nothing to do with this. Its all about the US embassy/system.
Terran
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
September 20 2011 17:15 GMT
#92
wow what? denied instantly? US doesnt like chinese visitors? Weird, maybe they should try again another day and ask for a reason for the decline.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
September 20 2011 17:15 GMT
#93
On September 21 2011 02:11 Reason.SC2 wrote:
I don't get it. Why don't they just use MasterCard if their Visa is rejected?


Don't you know that "Life takes Visa"?
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
September 20 2011 17:16 GMT
#94
On September 20 2011 22:33 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I dont get why it would be that level of difficult to enter the US as a Chinese citizen.. China is supposed to be the communist nation that is hard to enter, yet you dont often hear of americans denied visas to China -_-


They probably applied late, imagine how many Chinese people apply for visas to the US.
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
September 20 2011 17:24 GMT
#95
If they had more money they'd probably be able to hire a specialist/well-connected-official who could stamp a Visa for them on the same day.
WrentheFaceless
Profile Joined March 2011
United States33 Posts
September 20 2011 17:25 GMT
#96
Anaheim is only what? 5 hours from the Mexico border, could always just hop it... haha

I kid though, and this sucks, wonder what the issue is this year, never had a problem getting Chinese players over here for the previous blizzcons.
heaveshade
Profile Joined March 2011
China330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 17:41:44
September 20 2011 17:38 GMT
#97
very confusing indeed. Well, according to the original source, the WoW player said the officer of the embassy only asked for the invitation paper(don't know what exactly it was), then the officer said the material they provided was not matched, not even took a look at the other stuff they brought. Can't figure out what was going wrong, maybe that guy was too frustrated to tell the whole story.

I believe it's WCG 2004 or so, chinese players were not able to attend also due to visa issue. As someone already said, to go abroad you need a good financial condition, or a bank certification, and other stuff which was not possible for a progamer here in china. The requirement of other country's visa can very well be like this too I guess, but the reason above may not fit this year's blizzcon, we'll never know as those representative themselves dont make it clear.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
September 20 2011 17:39 GMT
#98
Noooo I really wanted to see Xigua play.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
September 20 2011 17:43 GMT
#99
God, our immigration policies are so backward. It's so difficult for European or Canadian citizens to immigrate, and someone who's coming here just for a short stay for a legitimate reason has problems, and yet our southern border is so poorly guarded.

It's just silly.
For Aiur???
Keype
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden455 Posts
September 20 2011 17:46 GMT
#100
Seriously.. This got to be a joke.. Come on US.. this is just pathetic.
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