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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
August 12 2011 01:26 GMT
#7
If L is in then I am too. Someone contact Ace and Bill Murray.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 12 2012 06:09 GMT
#362
On January 12 2012 14:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Flamewheel look at your thread, can't you see it's dying to go?


This is an excellent point. Let me do my part to help.

/in
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 13 2012 03:01 GMT
#423
Neat. Change the game around after it's too late to leave.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 13 2012 08:47 GMT
#500
Some quick observations from me.

I don't like bumatlarge at all. First he is unable to check the first post to see if he is actually able to vote for himself or not. I also don't like how he says he really easy to read. Finally, I really don't like how he's asked multiple times for the masons to mason him.

Sandroba also draws suspicion for putting up the "I'm bad at scum" defense. Also seems really unfamiliar with the whole election process when I'm pretty sure he's played in several games with elections. I'd have to check on that one, but I'm sure he'll just answer it himself.

I gotta question Mr. Wiggles for suggesting that a Godfather would run for office and then drop out early.

But I'll just sit back for now and see who else is going to run by the time I wake up tomorrow.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 13 2012 08:50 GMT
#501
Also why are so many people doing the /confirm thing? That's not in the rules at all.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 13 2012 08:59 GMT
#504
I thought it was more to make sure people are still willing to play the game if the signup takes a long time. Apparently I posted on the first page way back in August, I don't remember that.

But whatever. It's not important to talk about and I regret even bringing it up now.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 13 2012 16:59 GMT
#593
I'm automatically suspicious of anyone who complains about something and then doesn't do anything to try and help the problem.

Just sayin'...
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 13 2012 23:08 GMT
#790
So far most of the candidates haven't put a lot of effort into this game.

It should be noted, once again, that the GF is selected after the mayoral elections. Thus mafia can send whoever they want at the elected spots, and if any veteran or suspicious day 1 players get elected then they can put the GF on someone else.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 14 2012 06:02 GMT
#905
Sheth, if we've not given Palmar enough time yet, then how much time is needed? More importantly, who have we given enough time to instead?
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 14 2012 07:02 GMT
#917
On January 14 2012 15:41 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 14:31 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On January 14 2012 14:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=87086

bum I don't know what you see, but what about any of these posts has utility in any way shape or form for town?

In what world is Palmar "not 100% useless" in his current state?

None of his posts have breached one line and almost all of them have 0 content. He says Meapak is good, which isn't very helpful, he calls kita's (very valid concerns about his play, mind) dumb, he calls VE dumb and bad, he asks a noob how he knows his meta, and he wants to vote Protact because of a half-assed early game case on ciryandor.

If you seriously believe Palmar is not useless then I have to question your angle.


I feel like Palmar definitely hasn't been the most useless this day. Those who want to kill off Palmar based on his Meta should be waiting far past just day 1. I'm pretty sure everyone has had a day or two where they can't play much. Lynching Palmar at this point is like lynching a lurker.

@WBG -- What do you think about what Protactinium has posted?

How do you feel about Protactinium's new lynch candidate - BC?

I think its far to early in the game to solidly go after BC. I don't think he's scum just for addressing our rather useless mason role in the way he and I discussed it. I feel the move was solidly pro-town, but I won't trust him still. I never trust BC, L, Incog, or RoL (as evidenced by my repeated murders of RoL). But as of this moment I think he's decently protown, he created a different discussion that needed to be discussed. I will not support any attempts at lynching him day one.

Also, we haven't heard from quite a few people on our list of players, most notably L. I also don't think d3 has posted either, which is rather poor to me.
As for Palmar, I'll admit I'm seeing a difference, but I've seen this same argument against Palmar a few times. Everyone seems to attack him if he doesn't do his usual posting for mayor or what not. I'd rather he contribute more than what he has. As of right now I find him a very viable lynch candidate.

Hi Scamp, how are you, sir? Do you mind gracing me with a few opinions? Like Foolishness pushing for multiple people for mayor, instead of himself?( I still find that the most weird thing about today.) And also Protactinium saying he'd lynch BC if elected - a change from ciryandor.


Well alright, but first I question your post.

Why did the role of mason need to be discussed? Especially combined with a roleclaim? How is that solidly pro-town?

Also, when is a good time to solidly go after BC? Why can't someone go after him on day 1, especially if they have a case to make, and especially since you claim to never trust him?


I'm not really opposed to the idea of Foolishness pushing for multiple people and not himself. Last time I checked I'm not running for mayor either, and we elect two people. I find it curious that no one seems to be discussing the usage of the two positions outside of the day 1 lynch, whereas talk about masons cluttered up the thread for a bunch of pages.

Finally I'm not really sure why you're asking my opinion on Protactinium going after BC. He posted a pretty verbose argument, you should go pick that apart if you don't like it. My opinion of it is that I think it's legit, but I don't know if it's mafia calling out a notable townie with suspicious behavior because of substandard play (a common mafia Ace tactic, and a good one if that) or if BC truly is mafia and has done a good job of leading the town down topics which aren't quite to the point.

I guess they could both be town, too. Highly unlikely that they're both mafia, though.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 14 2012 07:12 GMT
#919
On January 14 2012 16:08 Mattchew wrote:
foolishness would have stuck with only bill murray had I not mason'd him. Now he pushes for me and bill because to him I am safe.


With this post, you will not be getting my vote, unless you post something of substance really, really soon.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 14 2012 08:01 GMT
#946
Mattchew the important part of elected officials is the immunity. You want to get a real power player in that spot. For reference, see the game where the mafia team used all of their KP (I think they had three) just to kill Ace because he was such a force in that game. That's the kind of player you want to have immunity. Without that immunity, the best protection is some sort of 50/50 with the town medics, and you never know how reliable they are.

Also, y'know, the day 1 lynch is often a big deal.

Anyway, I actually like your last couple of posts and you've earned my vote.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 14 2012 12:24 GMT
#1008
Um, WBG, there hasn't really been any mason discussion for a while now.

I feel like the whole thread went back about 15 pages. Gotta figure out why.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 14 2012 23:50 GMT
#1329
Oh the irony.

I'm going to vote for L.

Also Protactinium you've contributed nothing except long-ass posts against BC. I wouldn't call that focused on finding mafia.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 15 2012 03:47 GMT
#1488
Going to sleep. If my instincts are right about Protact then this round of modkills is going to be awesome!
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 16 2012 03:45 GMT
#1704
I was expecting a rash of modkills. I'm highly disappointed. Though the death of Ciryandor is nice.

Not really sure why WBG thinks he should still be talking right now.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 16 2012 04:11 GMT
#1715
Vigs can only shoot once.

But in a different way, I agree. It'd be a confirmed townie, but that info is pretty much useless.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 16 2012 04:33 GMT
#1721
On January 16 2012 13:24 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 12:45 Scamp wrote:
I was expecting a rash of modkills. I'm highly disappointed. Though the death of Ciryandor is nice.

Not really sure why WBG thinks he should still be talking right now.


Do you honestly believe that someone who is wrong about one lynch should just stop trying?


Trying? No. Playing the way WBG is playing? Yes.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 16 2012 06:04 GMT
#1732
On January 16 2012 13:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 12:45 Scamp wrote:
I was expecting a rash of modkills. I'm highly disappointed. Though the death of Ciryandor is nice.

Not really sure why WBG thinks he should still be talking right now.


lol

you've done a lot too this game, eh?

I might have been wrong but I'm not as useless as you are.


This is not a proper response and you know it. You also know better.

Besides, it was your own words that suggest that people won't want to listen to you. What changed your mind?



As for the double-lynch people are discussing right now, I don't think it's a good idea to use it right now. We're certainly going to want to use it in the future, but as of right now I don't see how it's necessary. The town is in a good spot right now. We have one scum down and five townies down. While technically that's a losing ratio it's also way better than what town is expected to be at at this point. On top of that we've only lost a mason and a vigilante, so in terms of power roles we're also doing very well.

Thus, we shouldn't be in any hurry to use the double-lynches so quickly. The later we use the double-lynches the better, because we'll have more information to go on at that point. Right now we lack solid leadership and information, and there's no guarantee that we'll have solid leads to go on by day three. Of course, there's never any guarantee that we'll have solid leads later in the game too. However, it is certainly true that it is much more likely to have better leads as the game goes on. Combine that with the fact that, again, the town is in a good spot right now and that means there's no reason to rush the double-lynch.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
January 16 2012 08:12 GMT
#1740
On January 16 2012 16:11 Lanaia wrote:
49. Scamp - I'm neutral-leaning-scum on this guy.
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On January 16 2012 12:45 Scamp wrote:
I was expecting a rash of modkills. I'm highly disappointed. Though the death of Ciryandor is nice.

Not really sure why WBG thinks he should still be talking right now.


I don't like that he was expecting it and was highly disappointed in it. Proportionately, it was more likely to see a lot of town in there. Him saying that ciry's death was nice felt a bit... unnatural. Also, is that bitterness I see towards WBG? Care to reiterate what you mean by the last line, scamp? How is he playing that is so bad to you?


Were you not expecting a bunch of modkills? I thought that everyone was expecting them.

And yes I have bitterness toward WBG. I don't like the way he plays. As for clarifying the last line, how about I let WBG do it himself.

On January 15 2012 16:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
the problem for me now, of course, is that no one is going to listen to me.


And later...

On January 16 2012 09:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
The thing about the Palmar flip is that it makes people like zeks, opz, and several others look bad. Lanaia looks bad as well; she has not commented on anything concrete and so far has had no scum reads. It looks rather similar to her play from XLVII.


He neglects to mention himself in all of this.

I'm not ready to make a full-blown case out of this but if you look at WBG's post history it would make a lot of sense if both he and BC are scum.
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