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Richman "NamchiR" Chembars is a Double Tagger

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Energie
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada74 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 06:53:54
June 03 2011 06:01 GMT
#1
I'm making this post with the intention of proving that Richman "ONENamhciR" Chembars has double tagged in a clan war for team Full Contact Gaming (FCG).

I joined FCG and was 'guaranteed' a spot to play in their clan war at 10PM. Once we started losing though, the manager FCGdTank told me to get on Ventrilo with him. He told me that we "couldn't lose to these randoms" and that he would call his friend to get on an FCG account for him. According to dTank, he "does it all the time" and "never loses".

After further questioning, I got the name of his 'friend' - NamhciR - top 10 Grand Master's and a pretty well known player. Although I was pissed that I didn't get to play (it was 11:30, I had waited 1.5 hours and I was getting replaced by a double tagger), I was determined to expose FCG and NamhciR's unfair practices.

Here is a screenshot of FCG manager dTank reassuring me NamhciR would 'rape' his opponent in the clan war.
http://tinypic.com/r/33nfcj5/7

Here is the replay of NamchiR played under the name FCGSokar.

[image loading]


Notice the hotkeys, APM, and strategy.
-Starting 2 SCVs hotkeyed at "1" and "2"
-Command Center hotkeyed at "4"
-Barracks hotkeyed at "9"

Now here is a replay of NamhciR vs EGMachine (sorry, different patch)
-Same strategy
-Same Hotkeys - SCVs on "1&2", CC on "4", Barracks on "9"

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/replays/42463

I'm doing this not only because I'm pissed off they guaranteed me play time and took back their word, but because cheating in Starcraft II damages the overall integrity of the game and community.

FCG apparently has a sponsorship with SteelSeries, and NamhciR is a well known player. Although I don't have any Ventrilo recordings (forgot to record), I think the evidence speaks for itself.
i wear socks with my sandles
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 06:20:27
June 03 2011 06:03 GMT
#2
I wonder how those sponsors feel about the terminology "Rape time"
Edit: I wonder how those sponsors feel when the players of the team they're sponsoring is unsure who their sponsor is.

1. Never heard of FCG
2. I doubt the integrity of StarCraft and the competitive scene is immensely obliterated due to this.
3. Shaming and displaying someone publicly achieves nothing. Next time, contact the authorities if this isn't just a "for-fun" scrim and let them handle it.
4. All4OneGaming should be notified.
5. Good luck in your endeavors in the StarCraft II competitive scene.
6. Your stance is understandably bias.
7. Insert other key actions that should have been done instead of talking about this publicly.
8. "FCG apparently has a sponsorship with SteelSeries," You're on their team and you don't know their sponsors? See above for edit.
9.
Although I was pissed that I didn't get to play (it was 11:30, I had waited 1.5 hours and I was getting replaced by a double tagger), I was determined to expose FCG and NamchiR's unfair practices.


I'm doing this not only because I'm pissed off they guaranteed me play time and took back their word, but because cheating in Starcraft II damages the overall integrity of the game and community.


Well, as long as it is with good intentions and not due to clouded judgement and personal anger towards a small organization.

Wait a second...

Still, awesome site, looks really well-done! http://www.clanfcg.com/

P.S: just to clarify, I'm not trivializing this event with my enumerations, I just don't support the way he's approaching it
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TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
June 03 2011 06:11 GMT
#3
is this an actual sanctioned blizzard tournament or just a for-fun clan scrimmage? Also man, this makes you look really bad to other clans wanting to pick up players, you join a clan and within a few hours are trashing them on tl.net.
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Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
June 03 2011 06:17 GMT
#4
i dont even know what to think when reading this lol

on one hand I want to laugh, on the other hand cheating is cheating.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
June 03 2011 06:18 GMT
#5
I think it's a bit of a hard situation. You shouldn't trash your team but you should maintain integrity and it's obvious that what they did was wrong and their team should be notified and penalized. I don't think there is really anyway for FCG/namchir to defend themselves but I don't think the situation itself is very huge.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
June 03 2011 06:18 GMT
#6
[image loading]

Nice find, I'd look at a few more reps to make sure but I think you're right.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 03 2011 06:23 GMT
#7
Although this kind of cheating is quite a harsh offense, you handled this situation very poorly. Next time wait until your anger has faded before making rash decisions.
Isaac
Profile Joined August 2010
United States810 Posts
June 03 2011 06:23 GMT
#8
TO THE SUPREME COURT!
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Energie
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada74 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 06:27:59
June 03 2011 06:24 GMT
#9
Regardless of whether or not I'm pissed, he still double tagged and I'm simply getting this out so that:

1) People will become more observant of cheating, especially in these respective teams.

2) Sponsors will become more aware of the type of teams they sponsor.

3) Action will be taken against cheaters.

I'm not sure what league this was for, but regardless there shouldn't be any cheating period. I joined this team because I thought it was respectable, but after lying to me, wasting my time, and cheating, I gladly took action.
i wear socks with my sandles
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 03 2011 06:25 GMT
#10
well, in CSL this happen multiple times and the most recently is mcmaster with 1 of the complexity member. He was banned from CSL for life as well as his team was disqualified from the playoff. :-/
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oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
June 03 2011 06:26 GMT
#11
Cheating is cheating. Judge Judy anyone? :D
In all seriousness, this is quite a bummer and a bit lame.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 03 2011 06:28 GMT
#12
On June 03 2011 15:24 Energie wrote:
Regardless of whether or not I pissed, he still double tagged and I'm simply getting this out so that:

1) People will become more observant of cheating, especially in these respective teams.

2) Sponsors will become more aware of the type of teams they sponsor.

3) Action will be taken against cheaters.

I'm not sure what league this was for, but regardless there shouldn't be any cheating period. I joined this team because I thought it was respectable, but after lying to me, wasting my time, and cheating, I gladly took action.


At the same time you also scrapped your entire sc2 career. You worked really hard to get to a level where teams will pick you up. All that work is gone now.
Maelstrom.cobhc
Profile Joined April 2010
United States126 Posts
June 03 2011 06:32 GMT
#13
On June 03 2011 15:28 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 15:24 Energie wrote:
Regardless of whether or not I pissed, he still double tagged and I'm simply getting this out so that:

1) People will become more observant of cheating, especially in these respective teams.

2) Sponsors will become more aware of the type of teams they sponsor.

3) Action will be taken against cheaters.

I'm not sure what league this was for, but regardless there shouldn't be any cheating period. I joined this team because I thought it was respectable, but after lying to me, wasting my time, and cheating, I gladly took action.


At the same time you also scrapped your entire sc2 career. You worked really hard to get to a level where teams will pick you up. All that work is gone now.


I don't think any respectable team would mind him exposing cheaters.
I don't care what you need. I only do it to please me.
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
June 03 2011 06:33 GMT
#14
i dunno whats wrong with exposing the cheating even if its his team ? should he just left and let it be ? is that really the right thing to do ?
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 03 2011 06:34 GMT
#15
On June 03 2011 15:32 Maelstrom.cobhc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 15:28 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 03 2011 15:24 Energie wrote:
Regardless of whether or not I pissed, he still double tagged and I'm simply getting this out so that:

1) People will become more observant of cheating, especially in these respective teams.

2) Sponsors will become more aware of the type of teams they sponsor.

3) Action will be taken against cheaters.

I'm not sure what league this was for, but regardless there shouldn't be any cheating period. I joined this team because I thought it was respectable, but after lying to me, wasting my time, and cheating, I gladly took action.


At the same time you also scrapped your entire sc2 career. You worked really hard to get to a level where teams will pick you up. All that work is gone now.


I don't think any respectable team would mind him exposing cheaters.


Most teams don't want overly reactionary people on their team that they can't trust for legitimate and/or illegitimate things.

The guy didn't get to play, so he goes all over the forums.
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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 03 2011 06:35 GMT
#16
Maybe you went about it the wrong way, maybe you didn't. It may have been better to just inform the guys in charge of the tournament rather then publicly humiliate NamchiR. But then again I hate cheaters, hopefully punishment is swift and unforgiving!
sksyen
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States359 Posts
June 03 2011 06:41 GMT
#17
At the same time, shouldnt knowledge of things like this be made public? Although there may have been a better way to go about it, I don't see why the post is unjustified.
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TheGiftedApe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1243 Posts
June 03 2011 06:43 GMT
#18
The thing is, you are informing the wrong people. If you really believed this was a break in the violations first figure out what tournament your actually playing in(if this is just a for fun clan scrimmage with no prizes.......just tell your leader you don't want to be a part of a team like this and leave).

Then tell the host's of the tournament what happened, tell the leader/captain of the other team your sorry for your teams actions and what took place. Provide proof to the organization running the tournament. The way your going about this just looks like a scorned lover who caught their significant other with another lover and is lashing out. You don't even know what tournament this happened in, you don't even have the teams they were playing against. So more than likely the people who actually need to know what happened aren't being informed, and have no clue what took place, as they probably don't read every-single post on tl.net.
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legato89
Profile Joined May 2011
Guatemala2 Posts
June 03 2011 06:50 GMT
#19
Dude, there's even the possibility NamhciR didn't even know about this being a real tournament if it was, and or/ if it happend, this is really shady tbh
This should be investigated more, and i agree with other posters about this being brought up in a very bad manner.
You should have contacted the team manager, brought up the issues and your concerns before it ever happend if you were really concerned about this too.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
June 03 2011 06:54 GMT
#20
how did this effect his sc2 career. He could simply use his name change (if he hasn't already) and wahla, new person
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