Hi, just got home after a 6 our train ride and saw that the game already started. I don't have th e energy to read through the posts now, I will read them in about 10 hours and say something useful then.

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 05 2011 22:20 GMT

#310

Generally, you can only "know" if someone is mafia by their voting and their posting. If you do a lot of helpful posts you seem to be town. If 32 of the 40 people would post a lot of helpful posts we could be sure that the rest are highly probable of being scum. Especially on day one it is important for people to say a lot so we can read the. That means that it is in your interest for the town to be active if you are town and the opposite if you are scum.

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 06 2011 12:47 GMT

#402

I just read through the whole thread, it looks like people started more useful posts later on, reading through pages 8-17 was a chore.

I think it is established that freeloader625's question is not a scum tell, as GGQ told us that they have a "quick topic" and would know if he was scum.

Treadmill, Jimboo, cherubael and Lafali were a bit too eager, maybe one of them is mafia but I don't think all of them. I also don't know why Treadmill was singled out from all of them, he was the first one to vote and give a half good explanation, Jimboo and cheru said we shouldn't be too hasty and then still voted for freeloader.

I definitely think that Kurumi's hyperactive style is not helpful, he also didn't answer any of iGrok's allegations.

I actually don't know who I should vote for today, I don't think that I can actually vote for someone thinking he is more scummy than 1/5 probability.

I will vote for Monsterdrakar because his reason for voting theawesomeall (Lists of inactives are bad) is stupid and I think that contributing should not be met with pointless allegations.

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 06 2011 13:34 GMT

#404

I think now that iGrok has stopped posting haiku's he/she is actually useful and his/her analysis of kurumi might not based on much (It is just too early), but it is at least trying to do some analysis.

I don't see him/her as particularly scummy.

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 06 2011 14:28 GMT

#418

I also want to stress that I am pretty sure that freeloader is town and that we should lynch someone else.
lynching freeloader won't help us.
I don't think that any of the people currently high in the vote are obvious scum, but freeloader is very certainly not scum.

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 06 2011 14:44 GMT

#420

@monsterDrakar:
It's not that you seem like an extremely scummy player to me, but I have to vote for someone because and you simply seemed the scummiest to me.
I don't think that TAA was too helpful with his post, but it also didn't seem like he was scummy and tried to blend in.
To me it looked like it was an inexperienced player trying to contribute.
I don't think that posting a list of inactive players is hurtful ever, I think it is good because it pressures the people on the list into contributing.
This early in the game nearly no analysis is really through because you just don't have enough data.

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 06 2011 14:49 GMT

#422

@ blackone:
I just saw your post, I have missed a few posts it seems.
Your analysis of the later posts of freeloader is correct, and we should definitely have an eye on him.
As I said earlier there isn't really someone I am too sure of, freeloader has become scummier with his later posts and I am of the same opinion as kurumi on him, if he doesn't start contributing he will be lynched sooner or later.

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 06 2011 14:55 GMT

#426

I think we are all online at the moment and are interested in this. I think I will make a vote tally and post it here.

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 06 2011 15:05 GMT

#431

Amazingxkcd 1
Alderan

monsterDrakar 2
Xedat
supersoft

Gtrsrs 1
omgCRAZY

Treadmill 1
35spike1
--Kurumi--
--Benjef--

iGrok 2
pyo
gtrsrs

Kurumi 1
Aril
--Pyo--

Cherubael 1
Kairo

freeloader625 5
cherubael
--Jimbooo--
--Lafali--
Treadmill
Benjef
Treadmill
--Drazerk--
teamsolid

Lafali 1
Kurumi

aprudds 1
Pyo

TheAwesomeAll 1
monsterDrakar
--heist--

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 06 2011 15:06 GMT

#432

Kurumi said that he thinks Lafali is scummier, it in the last portion of his confusing post.

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 06 2011 15:09 GMT

#435

@ kurumi:
I know that treadmill stayed on freloader after unvoting because his second post was extremely unhelpful too and he doesn't even try to defend himself. ( I am paraphrasing here )

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 06 2011 15:17 GMT

#444

Kursiv are the guys that voted but then unvoted and have not voted again.

Non voters:
1. Munk-E
2. blackone
4. amazingxkcd
11. Jimbooo
13. Lafali
16. Heist
20. TheAwesomeAll
24. grush57
25. Date_Reaper
26. CjrNinja
28. Senj
29. DeMorcerf
30. Vain
32. Jackal58
33. Clicker
37. iGrok
38. tdAdonis
39. aprudds
40. GGQ

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 06 2011 15:21 GMT

#450

I have one favour to ask of you:
Some people are cluttering the thread, an example would be the exchange between jackal and kurumi, I wrote some unnecessary one liners too.
Lets reduce our posting to helpful deiscussion.
kurumi: Come back with an analysis of gtrsr or tell us more in depth why lafali is scummy in your opinion.

jackal58:Make an analysis of kurumi or let him write a real post before attacking him again.

I think we need to stop cluttering the thread.

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 06 2011 15:28 GMT

#458

@jackal:
I also think that kurumi is extremely unhelpful.
But right now your allegations are just cluttering the thread. We know that you think kurumi is scummy and that he should respond with a real post. I also think that. Still, give him some time.
I cannot make you wait, but your impatience is not helping.

Make a case against him or wait for him to provide some useful stuff.

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 06 2011 16:35 GMT

#469

@amazingxkcd:
I was asked to post a list of the people that have not voted yet, so I did that.
I never said anything about the guys that did not vote, it was half a reminder and half because I was asked.
In mafia XXXIX four people were modkilled day 2 because they did not post or forgot to vote.
If you plan to vote don't worry.

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 06 2011 16:49 GMT

#470

@kurumi:
I read through all of treadmill's posts, he is not wishy washy.
He clearly stated why he voted for freeloader and stayed with his vote. How is that wishy washy?

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 07 2011 07:16 GMT

#664

This definitely was a blunder by jackal, it was clear that rookie asked for advice on what to do as blue and not asking all blues to reveal themselves.

Still, I don't think that jackal is scum, he simply wanted to get people to vote for someone else than freeloader and accused the person that seemed the most scummy to him.
But we should look at the people that voted for rookie, maybe there are one of two mafia in there.

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 07 2011 08:28 GMT

#668

Here is a definition of bandwagon:
http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Bandwagon
Basically it means when a lot of people vote for someone because he was accused but when there is not enough evidence.

Xedat

Germany358 Posts

June 07 2011 15:37 GMT

#700

I want to remind everyone that it is night, don't post anything too critical or it will influence the mafia's hits. If you are concerned that you might die save your post for the last few minutes before day.

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