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So let's compare CrjNinja's thoughts here and Treadmill's here
The thing that is seen from the very beginning is that Treadmill's post lacks colours,while Crjninja takes stance about some people and calls them town or scum. Treadmill's expressions about people are really vague:
He thinks that Jimboo is unexperienced,that's all
He does not understand cherubael's case,but does nothing to defend/talk about it at all.
He looks like he has strong believing on grush57,but does make any move to prove us that he indeed slipped Mafia.
There are more things about his "Day 1 thoughts" but those are the most interesting ones.
He also prods lurkers again,like it wasn't done before,but does not vote on them,just notices.
After 30 minutes,he drops his "strongest case" versus grush57 and comes back to freeloader(he did not even mention him in his "first" post,even when he was his MAIN suspect a while ago!)
A short brief why I think Treadmill is Scum:He is being wishy-washy
He is afraid to take stances and get linked to someone
Chainsaw defends himself with attacking Lafali,Lafali chainsaw defends himself with attacking Treadmill,when they're both after same things(we can afford mislynching,it is not too bad to mislynch a couple of times just for sake of it,freeloader's case is strong as hell)
His posts are full of fluff,keep in mind that his "Day 1 Thoughts" came after CrjNinja ASKS about them.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 06 2011 12:47 Treadmill wrote:One really big point - if you're going to quote a really long post it'd be great if you could put it in spoiler tags (just a formatting issue but helps to clean up the page a fair bit). Meaning you, iGrok.@CjrNinja Can you confirm that the role PM for mafia members spells out that mafia can communicate by PM? If this is true than obviously mafia wouldn't post that question and I'll change my vote from freeloader. Otherwise, though, he seems even more scummy to me now. I didn't vote for him cause he asked a silly question, it was how he replied to scrutiny. Since then, he hasn't posted in the thread at all. And I can confirm that he's been on TL - check his post history, he's posted a whole bunch in today's MLG live report. Either he's scum and waiting for suspicion to die down or he's town and has given up and resigned himself to getting lynched.
Yeah,freeloader is not posting here. Something we didn't notice yet. Oh,also that PM derailing bullshit coming through couple of pages,jeez.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 06 2011 13:05 Treadmill wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 06 2011 12:54 CjrNinja wrote:I can't confirm what the actual role PM said for mafia members. But looking back through this thread I did find: Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 01:33 Varpulis wrote:On May 30 2011 00:34 blackone wrote:On May 29 2011 06:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
PMs
PMs are not allowed in this game.
This confuses me because from the other Mafia threads I read I feel that PMs are a pretty important part of the game. In particular, how is the scum supposed to operate without PMs? To clarify: The no PMs rule does not apply to scum. They are still allowed to communicate outside of the thread. Town aligned and third party roles must keep everything inside the thread, however, for the sake of balance and to keep the game fun for everybody. So it's already been addressed during the signup stage. Freeloader was probably just lazy and didn't read through the entire thread. Hrrrm. That doesn't stop him from being lazy mafia. If mafia members received the info about being allowed to PM in their role PM, then only town wouldn't definitely know that and so only a town would ask. BUT if the information is not explicit in the role PMs, then town and mafia could equally easily not know (and not read fully the OP) and so someone asking could still be either. Does that make sense? I guess the only people who'd know for certain which it is would be the mafia (who won't show us their role PM to prove it) and the mods (who won't say cause it'd affect the game). Doesn't escape the fact that freeloader, who has been in the lead to be lynched, has been online without posting here at all. Which makes me suspicious.
Some theories about Freeloader being scum but being too lazy to play with his scumbuddies,yeah yeah,he's really good player and he plays one-man army. Point about him avoiding the thread is valid,but it looks that freeloader is not afraid of dying.
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On June 07 2011 00:28 Sprungjeezy wrote:I have been getting a scum vibe from Kurumi and I really think we need to get some "good" discussion going. Defends freeloader - easy townie rep without missing out on possible lycnh (there was no way this would go through regardless) + Show Spoiler +On June 05 2011 18:03 Kurumi wrote:
Freeloader tries to justify SC2 Mafia as real Mafia experience,I'd go with noobtown,yeah.
Now lets sniff for potential bandwagoners... says to keep watching freeloader and says something stupid and gets a vote from Kurumi in hopes of a counterbandwagon + Show Spoiler +On June 05 2011 18:07 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 13:47 Treadmill wrote:
It is a good spot, aprudds. We should keep an eye on freeloader625.
Jimbooo, we do have to lynch somebody. Being "hasty" isn't really a concern. And somebody with next to no evidence against them is a better lynch than everyone else with no evidence against them at all. Still, 48 hours yet. What? Bad lynches are good lynches? Are You a stupid Rat or You're a Noobtown? Lynch is the most IMPORTANT tool town gets. ##vote Treadmill * Kurumi votes Treadmill 18:07] then 10 mins later changes to Lafali 18:17 posts this between the 2* + Show Spoiler +On June 05 2011 18:11 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 14:12 Lafali wrote:
Good catch by aprudds. A townie wouldn't need to know that information. However, he could be new. There are 40 people in this game though, so its not like its mylo. My God,so many Rats running between my legs! No,we can't lynch the guy because of one thing. We should be suspicious WHY the bandwagon formed so FAST on such shitty evidence. It is not mylo,but we must use lynch to it's best. Notice the "bandwagon formed so FAST on such shitty evidence". Irony in the reason for changing his vote (even more so for the reasoning for his first vote). Here he + Show Spoiler +On June 05 2011 18:23 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 18:21 iGrok wrote:On June 05 2011 18:16 Kurumi wrote:On June 05 2011 15:16 Lafali wrote:On June 05 2011 15:09 omgCRAZY wrote:
With this being a newbies game I wouldn't be surprised that someone wants to get a handle on the game.
What I find interesting is how aprudds was so quick to get everyones attention focused on someone else and how the game has barely started and yet cherubael and Jimboo are already throwing out votes. His subsequent posts were fishy. Due to that I hopped on the voting bandwagon along with them. Its a 40 player game, I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches. Regardless, we should continue scumhunting. We do have 48 hours. Yeah,two SHORT posts about his SC2 mafia experience,fishy as heck."I hopped on voting bandwagon" What? Only Scum bandwagons. "I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches" WHAT THE FUCK? No,we can't afford mislynch for the sake of mislynching. Someone gives red vibes? WE LYNCH HIM. Someone made dumb question once,while Scummy Rats like You run around and we should lynch him? I will drop Treadmill for now,because You're infinitely more scummy than him. The more that you yell,
The more attention you get.
Keep up the noise, Joe[/sarcasm] Even if you are town, and its too early to throw accusations out, you're playing TERRIBLY anti-town. Again, Chill. Because I draw discussion from terrible freeloader bandwagon? I don't throw accusations out,they've slipped already. Treadmill and Lafali both advocate mislynches and not thinking before lynching. They hopped on bandwagon and they will. He is angry that Treadmill and Lafali vote for lynching so easily, but he himself has voted several times. I go on to post that he has been reading too far into things, he says it is what a good townie does. And says the Scum want tonwies to jump on band wagons. But I feel that it is incredibly distracting and scummy to throw around votes and accusations without any solid discussion. Unless others agree with me I'm not even going to bother to vote just yet. + Show Spoiler +On June 05 2011 18:31 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 18:28 Sprungjeezy wrote:
Kurumi, you come off as a towny that is reading too far into too little. It's important to remember that this game is full of beginners and important to remember people will try to take advantage of that, but people will still make mistakes such as hopping on a bandwagon without really thinking into it.
Time for bed for me though. Cya tomorrow. No. Scum wants Town to mislynch. Scum wants Town not to think about other suspects. Scum wants to make Town jump on one bandwagon and deny EVERY discussion about anything else. They are doing that,not only but they're advocating that as a good thing.
Am I scum who needs to get lynched asap or am I just a suspect? Take a stance before accusing me. Also always glad to see people defending Lafali and Treadmill,because we will have easy red lynches after they flip red.
Also how defending freeloader is free townie rep? Is there something I don't know? Oh,You're scum saying that Freeloader is town? Thanks bro,is Freeloader cleared now?
I didn't hope for counterbandwagon,where is anything indicating that? I wanted Treadmill to step up his posting and tell me why he thinks random lynches based on bad evidence are good.
Keep in mind,that's my evidence : Treadmill and Lafali say that Freeloader lynch is good,while it is based on BAD evidence,only scum wants to get easy lynch off. How is this shitty evidence in Your opinion? A bandwagon storming from the first hour of the day because someone asked a question is SUSPICIOUS and won't lead into anything helpful. Your ending is weird. "I won't go for Kurumi's case myself" Does that mean You're saying Your evidence on me is bad? Thanks,I probably shouldn't even make this post.
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Also,You're contradicting Yourself. Freeloader said something dumb,that's a good case,let's burn him! When Treadmill does say something "dumb" and I vote him,that's very weak case?
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Sorry for quadruple post,going to check the gtrsrs' case now,because that's kind of hot-topic.
Good that we have more time.
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Goddamnit Kurumi I don't know if you're town or scum. PICK A SIDE DAMNIT
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On June 07 2011 00:49 iGrok wrote:
Goddamnit Kurumi I don't know if you're town or scum. PICK A SIDE DAMNIT
I'm equally confused.
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On June 07 2011 01:06 Benjef wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 00:49 iGrok wrote:
Goddamnit Kurumi I don't know if you're town or scum. PICK A SIDE DAMNIT I'm equally confused.
Tell me why,such statement brings nothing into discussion. While iGrok might be waiting for something,You still need to contribute,Benjef.
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On June 06 2011 16:04 gtrsrs wrote:
here is my scum hunt
you post haiku's in a game where posting anything more than necessary is distracting and derailing
you try to find the town's blues so that the mafia can know what they're up against
the one thing that the town has as an advantage is that the mafia doesn't know our PRs and here you are spelling the info out for them
even if you're not mafia, your two biggest contributions so far are anti-town
everyone i encourage you to ##vote: iGrok and watch how he (and others) react as the votes pile up. putting the pressure on someone is a good way to find mafia. watch the people that come to defend him and how they do so and then when he flips red, go after them next
Haiku's had nothing in them besides repeating what iGrok is posting,so this is really weak thing to pick on. Also think about it,would Mafia post their possible list of blue roles in public? No,because they're the only guys who really need to know about it. Teaching new people how role distributions probably works is a good read,it helps You understand mechanics behind how the game is balanced. What are the "Two biggest contributions"? Haiku's weren't big. Role talk isn't that anti-town in that case. Is his analysis on me anti-town? Really?
Then there's that HUGE case Gtrsrs has against iGrok. It all depends on Gtrsrs,if he drops it any time,he is probably scum (prplhz in PTP did that,although he wasn't mafia he played really badly and indicated that he is scum) The thing I hope for is that gtrsrs as townie didn't get vigilante. Those things end up ugly (lol@Viscera killing BC Day 1 in PTP) I understand You have a case,I understand that You're sure that iGrok is scum,but please don't overreact. Make a good case,ask questions,bring strong evidence and we may look into Your accusations.
In my opinion,Gtrsrs is Overeager Townie.
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@amazingxkcd:
I was asked to post a list of the people that have not voted yet, so I did that.
I never said anything about the guys that did not vote, it was half a reminder and half because I was asked.
In mafia XXXIX four people were modkilled day 2 because they did not post or forgot to vote.
If you plan to vote don't worry.
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@kurumi:
I read through all of treadmill's posts, he is not wishy washy.
He clearly stated why he voted for freeloader and stayed with his vote. How is that wishy washy?
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On June 07 2011 01:13 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 01:06 Benjef wrote:On June 07 2011 00:49 iGrok wrote:
Goddamnit Kurumi I don't know if you're town or scum. PICK A SIDE DAMNIT I'm equally confused. Tell me why,such statement brings nothing into discussion. While iGrok might be waiting for something,You still need to contribute,Benjef.
First big post / tempt of analysis excuse me if its poor or wrong :D. Its a nooby game after all.
First you start by defending Freeloader
+ Show Spoiler +On June 05 2011 18:07 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 13:47 Treadmill wrote:
It is a good spot, aprudds. We should keep an eye on freeloader625.
Jimbooo, we do have to lynch somebody. Being "hasty" isn't really a concern. And somebody with next to no evidence against them is a better lynch than everyone else with no evidence against them at all. Still, 48 hours yet. What? Bad lynches are good lynches? Are You a stupid Rat or You're a Noobtown? Lynch is the most IMPORTANT tool town gets. ##vote Treadmill On June 05 2011 18:03 Kurumi wrote:
Freeloader tries to justify SC2 Mafia as real Mafia experience,I'd go with noobtown,yeah.
Now lets sniff for potential bandwagoners... On June 05 2011 18:23 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 18:21 iGrok wrote:On June 05 2011 18:16 Kurumi wrote:On June 05 2011 15:16 Lafali wrote:On June 05 2011 15:09 omgCRAZY wrote:
With this being a newbies game I wouldn't be surprised that someone wants to get a handle on the game.
What I find interesting is how aprudds was so quick to get everyones attention focused on someone else and how the game has barely started and yet cherubael and Jimboo are already throwing out votes. His subsequent posts were fishy. Due to that I hopped on the voting bandwagon along with them. Its a 40 player game, I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches. Regardless, we should continue scumhunting. We do have 48 hours. Yeah,two SHORT posts about his SC2 mafia experience,fishy as heck."I hopped on voting bandwagon" What? Only Scum bandwagons. "I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches" WHAT THE FUCK? No,we can't afford mislynch for the sake of mislynching. Someone gives red vibes? WE LYNCH HIM. Someone made dumb question once,while Scummy Rats like You run around and we should lynch him? I will drop Treadmill for now,because You're infinitely more scummy than him. The more that you yell,
The more attention you get.
Keep up the noise, Joe[/sarcasm] Even if you are town, and its too early to throw accusations out, you're playing TERRIBLY anti-town. Again, Chill. Because I draw discussion from terrible freeloader bandwagon? I don't throw accusations out,they've slipped already. Treadmill and Lafali both advocate mislynches and not thinking before lynching. They hopped on bandwagon and they will.
Which to begin with I find odd and you might just be trying to protect someone thats new to the game, but as time goes on it occurs to me that you may just be trying to protect one of your fellow scum. As you don't exactly want to lose someone so early into the game, especially from such a simple error like that.
Then after that you follow it up by saying such things like this which makes it seem that your a townie, as you talk about what scum would attempt to do and what the scum want the townies to do. Which in all honesty you might just be doing to cover yourself.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 05 2011 18:33 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 18:31 iGrok wrote:On June 05 2011 18:25 Kurumi wrote:
EDWOP:
I write "You" with capital Y because I feel like and it is Polish thing.
I call Scum/people I am suspicious of Rats. Get over it. No haiku for this,
The point is too short for one.
Just a simple noteDo shit like this, you're going to piss people off. Pissing people off is a good way to die. Dying does not help your team at all (at least in this game). You know this, you've played several games. Don't fuck over the newbies because you want to be obnoxious.As far as your "slips" go: Lafali, from what I can tell, is a newbie who bandwagonned, read my post warning against bandwagons, and unvoted. Treadmill: He said we should wait, and every point of evidence is important no matter how small. Great reason to vote him. Point grew after I wrote the haiku :p Scum will unvote after someone called it out to remain 'unsuspicious". Also why the heck Town would lynch person generating discussion and bringing scummy suspects? Scum would like to lynch me,but they can just kill me at night.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 05 2011 18:31 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 18:28 Sprungjeezy wrote:
Kurumi, you come off as a towny that is reading too far into too little. It's important to remember that this game is full of beginners and important to remember people will try to take advantage of that, but people will still make mistakes such as hopping on a bandwagon without really thinking into it.
Time for bed for me though. Cya tomorrow. No. Scum wants Town to mislynch. Scum wants Town not to think about other suspects. Scum wants to make Town jump on one bandwagon and deny EVERY discussion about anything else. They are doing that,not only but they're advocating that as a good thing.
At this point I think your just a townie who is just very into the game and enjoys drilling into people to see what can happen. But your not exactly lying low which is what I would expect a scum to do, you post a lot, perhaps to throw the townies off. I don't know.
Then you say this, this part of your most recent posts gets to me the most
+ Show Spoiler +On June 07 2011 00:45 Kurumi wrote:
Am I scum who needs to get lynched asap or am I just a suspect? Take a stance before accusing me.
I don't fully understand why you would suggest yourself being a scum like that. Surely the objective of either a townie or scum is try and avoid that as much as possible. Which leaves me fairly confused.
From what I've read around on the internet about Mafia, scum attempt to try derail the conversation away from suspect scum. And your not exactly focusing on one person from what I've read so far, your drilling into multiple people, from what I understand is your play style, which in turn to me at least is causing a bit of chaos and confusion.
+ Show Spoiler +I have a feeling I've done a very poor job of this but hell first time for everything :D. That was a lot harder than I thought it would be. If this post is a poor job just tell me how I should improve, if your allowed to do that in game, if not I'll just have to teach and improve by myself!
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i am role-less townie, unafraid to die in order to get mafia lynched. i am 95% sure that iGrok is scum. all of his posts convey this forced self-importance - it's kind of like the guy who is the "real estate king" in american beauty. if you remember, he quotes to the main character's wife carolyn: "in order to be successful, one must always project an image of success at all times." iGrok is doing everything in his power to draw attention onto himself and trying to associate himself with the proclaimed pros of the game. he's trying to project an image of skill so you'll sheep behind him.
i refuse to analyze people just because any of you want me to analyze them. me analyzing pyo doesn't prove anything because i don't have a scum read off of him.
a townie should never be afraid to die if he will take a mafia down with him (as long as you aren't a power role, that is). a 1:1 trade helps town a lot more than it helps mafia. that being said, i'm more than willing to take an extra day before we kill iGrok. people who are convinced that one of me, kurumi, and iGrok is mafia, go ahead and lynch me today, then when i flip vanilla townie, go after the scum tomorrow
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On June 07 2011 01:49 Xedat wrote:
@kurumi:
I read through all of treadmill's posts, he is not wishy washy.
He clearly stated why he voted for freeloader and stayed with his vote. How is that wishy washy?
He did not. He dropped his case for a while,then came back to it.
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Ok, i finally finished reading. Man, sleeping is bad for keeping up with a mafia game.
First off: Kurumi is probably town if he also spammed this much in a previous game where he was scum. I don't know his style very good but he is drawing way too much attention to be a comfortable mafia.
This game setup along with the vast amount of new players will probably push mafia in more of a lurker state. When i played my first game(mini mafia) the mafia was also lurking alot and just posting enough to draw suspicion away. For a general strategy i would suggest not pressuring lurkers but looking out for fluff posts(i'm currently updating my list of events) that add nothing to discussion or just tag along with the rest.
Furthermore i think lynching iGrok would be very bad for town at the moment. He is making sound analysis of players and at least put some efforts in his posts. I'm not saying he is not mafia but give it some time. He should be killed in a few days if he keeps up this posting standard(mafia likes to kill good town players). I would have suggested to dt check him but thinking about it its not unlikely for him to be the godfather who checks out green.
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On June 07 2011 02:07 gtrsrs wrote:
i am role-less townie, unafraid to die in order to get mafia lynched. i am 95% sure that iGrok is scum. all of his posts convey this forced self-importance - it's kind of like the guy who is the "real estate king" in american beauty. if you remember, he quotes to the main character's wife carolyn: "in order to be successful, one must always project an image of success at all times." iGrok is doing everything in his power to draw attention onto himself and trying to associate himself with the proclaimed pros of the game. he's trying to project an image of skill so you'll sheep behind him.
i refuse to analyze people just because any of you want me to analyze them. me analyzing pyo doesn't prove anything because i don't have a scum read off of him.
a townie should never be afraid to die if he will take a mafia down with him (as long as you aren't a power role, that is). a 1:1 trade helps town a lot more than it helps mafia. that being said, i'm more than willing to take an extra day before we kill iGrok. people who are convinced that one of me, kurumi, and iGrok is mafia, go ahead and lynch me today, then when i flip vanilla townie, go after the scum tomorrow
I am not up for KavCaprio lynch,sorry. Your case isn't strong enough for me.
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On June 07 2011 02:11 Vain wrote:
Ok, i finally finished reading. Man, sleeping is bad for keeping up with a mafia game.
First off: Kurumi is probably town if he also spammed this much in a previous game where he was scum. I don't know his style very good but he is drawing way too much attention to be a comfortable mafia.
I don't quite understand this. So Kurumi is probably town because he's acting the same way he did when he was mafia before?
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On June 07 2011 02:31 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 02:11 Vain wrote:
Ok, i finally finished reading. Man, sleeping is bad for keeping up with a mafia game.
First off: Kurumi is probably town if he also spammed this much in a previous game where he was scum. I don't know his style very good but he is drawing way too much attention to be a comfortable mafia.
I don't quite understand this. So Kurumi is probably town because he's acting the same way he did when he was mafia before?
Euh, i meant town. Jackal stated that when he was town he's just as hard to analyze. Iirc he was not scum the other games Jackal played with him.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 07 2011 00:19 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 00:15 amazingxkcd wrote:On June 06 2011 10:47 Alderan wrote:Here's a list of a couple people who seem to be acting a little scummy. (Not saying for sure scum, just people that might not be) Lets get some meaningful conversation going. AmazingxkcdI've already kind of voiced this opinion but I'm going to expound upon my earlier analysis. Let's look at his posts.
It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it
This post, obviously vague, of little help to the town, and posted directly after he appeared on TheAwesomeAll's “Lurker List”. When I pointed out this was a fishy post he responded with this:
interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other.
Obviously immediately went on the defensive, turned and pointed a finger at me, and suggest that the town take its time “figuring each other out” instead of having discussion that is inherently pro-town. In fact his only “contribution” to town discussion was this post:
Please refer to these guides on playing TL mafia.
For town: aidnai, GMarshal
For mafia: bumatlarge, chaos13
LSB's Newbie Guide
Mafiascum Newbie Guide
Introduction to Mafia (Flash)
Ver's town guide
Ace's Mafia Manifesto
Qatol's Town Guide
So his only contribution to the town is copying and pasting something that is in the third post of this thread? Interesting. On June 06 2011 23:10 Alderan wrote:
Also, I'm going to ahead and voting for amazingxkcd, just in case something happens to me at work today and I won't be able to get a vote in.
@ amazingkcd, I'm really just waiting on you to refute the analysis I did earlier.
You are discriminating against me and you just voted for me right now just off the basis of my first post, which i made after i finished watching MLG. You do not provide evidence that i am a scum nor do you back it up should you have given any evidence. It seems that you want me to be lynched when i am trying to win for the town. @iGrok and @Jackal58; I can't analyze Kurumi either, since i take that he's acting as if he has multiple personalities disorder. He should be watched for sure. Also, @Jackal58, you stated that he had the same behavior in the previous games you played with him, what were his roles? That should at least help to give us a direction on him. I am not trying to label you two as complete scum, but i was just concerned about iGrok's request for help from Jackal58. About freeloader, I am currently leaning towards the scummy side as for the reasons others have put up front already, but i need more time to see if i do want to lynch him. There are others here who seem suspicious based on their posts and the tone of their post, but i am not ready right now to make a final desicion. Kurumi was town in XXXIX. Lynched day one for posting nonsensically for the first half of the day. He has improved significantly from that game believe it or not. He is also still playing in PTP mafia and is a self proclaimed SK.
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On June 07 2011 02:43 Vain wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 02:31 iGrok wrote:On June 07 2011 02:11 Vain wrote:
Ok, i finally finished reading. Man, sleeping is bad for keeping up with a mafia game.
First off: Kurumi is probably town if he also spammed this much in a previous game where he was scum. I don't know his style very good but he is drawing way too much attention to be a comfortable mafia.
I don't quite understand this. So Kurumi is probably town because he's acting the same way he did when he was mafia before? Euh, i meant town. Jackal stated that when he was town he's just as hard to analyze. Iirc he was not scum the other games Jackal played with him. + Show Spoiler +On June 07 2011 00:19 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 00:15 amazingxkcd wrote:On June 06 2011 10:47 Alderan wrote:Here's a list of a couple people who seem to be acting a little scummy. (Not saying for sure scum, just people that might not be) Lets get some meaningful conversation going. AmazingxkcdI've already kind of voiced this opinion but I'm going to expound upon my earlier analysis. Let's look at his posts.
It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it
This post, obviously vague, of little help to the town, and posted directly after he appeared on TheAwesomeAll's “Lurker List”. When I pointed out this was a fishy post he responded with this:
interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other.
Obviously immediately went on the defensive, turned and pointed a finger at me, and suggest that the town take its time “figuring each other out” instead of having discussion that is inherently pro-town. In fact his only “contribution” to town discussion was this post:
Please refer to these guides on playing TL mafia.
For town: aidnai, GMarshal
For mafia: bumatlarge, chaos13
LSB's Newbie Guide
Mafiascum Newbie Guide
Introduction to Mafia (Flash)
Ver's town guide
Ace's Mafia Manifesto
Qatol's Town Guide
So his only contribution to the town is copying and pasting something that is in the third post of this thread? Interesting. On June 06 2011 23:10 Alderan wrote:
Also, I'm going to ahead and voting for amazingxkcd, just in case something happens to me at work today and I won't be able to get a vote in.
@ amazingkcd, I'm really just waiting on you to refute the analysis I did earlier.
You are discriminating against me and you just voted for me right now just off the basis of my first post, which i made after i finished watching MLG. You do not provide evidence that i am a scum nor do you back it up should you have given any evidence. It seems that you want me to be lynched when i am trying to win for the town. @iGrok and @Jackal58; I can't analyze Kurumi either, since i take that he's acting as if he has multiple personalities disorder. He should be watched for sure. Also, @Jackal58, you stated that he had the same behavior in the previous games you played with him, what were his roles? That should at least help to give us a direction on him. I am not trying to label you two as complete scum, but i was just concerned about iGrok's request for help from Jackal58. About freeloader, I am currently leaning towards the scummy side as for the reasons others have put up front already, but i need more time to see if i do want to lynch him. There are others here who seem suspicious based on their posts and the tone of their post, but i am not ready right now to make a final desicion. Kurumi was town in XXXIX. Lynched day one for posting nonsensically for the first half of the day. He has improved significantly from that game believe it or not. He is also still playing in PTP mafia and is a self proclaimed SK.
Ok, yeah that makes a lot more sense.
Yeah, I'm starting to see how Kurumi could be a townie, but I could also see him as a scum who felt the pressure and is trying to change his tune. I still don't thing he should be lynched today. I'm trying to think of who should be, but I really don't know :/
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On June 07 2011 02:53 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 02:43 Vain wrote:On June 07 2011 02:31 iGrok wrote:On June 07 2011 02:11 Vain wrote:
Ok, i finally finished reading. Man, sleeping is bad for keeping up with a mafia game.
First off: Kurumi is probably town if he also spammed this much in a previous game where he was scum. I don't know his style very good but he is drawing way too much attention to be a comfortable mafia.
I don't quite understand this. So Kurumi is probably town because he's acting the same way he did when he was mafia before? Euh, i meant town. Jackal stated that when he was town he's just as hard to analyze. Iirc he was not scum the other games Jackal played with him. + Show Spoiler +On June 07 2011 00:19 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 00:15 amazingxkcd wrote:On June 06 2011 10:47 Alderan wrote:Here's a list of a couple people who seem to be acting a little scummy. (Not saying for sure scum, just people that might not be) Lets get some meaningful conversation going. AmazingxkcdI've already kind of voiced this opinion but I'm going to expound upon my earlier analysis. Let's look at his posts.
It is quite clear that it can be seen who are the main talkers for both side. The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it
This post, obviously vague, of little help to the town, and posted directly after he appeared on TheAwesomeAll's “Lurker List”. When I pointed out this was a fishy post he responded with this:
interesting first post there, all ready trying to set up accustation upon me for supposedly making a scummy post when in reality i am only simply making observation. You already got into my list of suspicious people by derailing a innocent first post when we still have around 30+ hours left to figure out each other.
Obviously immediately went on the defensive, turned and pointed a finger at me, and suggest that the town take its time “figuring each other out” instead of having discussion that is inherently pro-town. In fact his only “contribution” to town discussion was this post:
Please refer to these guides on playing TL mafia.
For town: aidnai, GMarshal
For mafia: bumatlarge, chaos13
LSB's Newbie Guide
Mafiascum Newbie Guide
Introduction to Mafia (Flash)
Ver's town guide
Ace's Mafia Manifesto
Qatol's Town Guide
So his only contribution to the town is copying and pasting something that is in the third post of this thread? Interesting. On June 06 2011 23:10 Alderan wrote:
Also, I'm going to ahead and voting for amazingxkcd, just in case something happens to me at work today and I won't be able to get a vote in.
@ amazingkcd, I'm really just waiting on you to refute the analysis I did earlier.
You are discriminating against me and you just voted for me right now just off the basis of my first post, which i made after i finished watching MLG. You do not provide evidence that i am a scum nor do you back it up should you have given any evidence. It seems that you want me to be lynched when i am trying to win for the town. @iGrok and @Jackal58; I can't analyze Kurumi either, since i take that he's acting as if he has multiple personalities disorder. He should be watched for sure. Also, @Jackal58, you stated that he had the same behavior in the previous games you played with him, what were his roles? That should at least help to give us a direction on him. I am not trying to label you two as complete scum, but i was just concerned about iGrok's request for help from Jackal58. About freeloader, I am currently leaning towards the scummy side as for the reasons others have put up front already, but i need more time to see if i do want to lynch him. There are others here who seem suspicious based on their posts and the tone of their post, but i am not ready right now to make a final desicion. Kurumi was town in XXXIX. Lynched day one for posting nonsensically for the first half of the day. He has improved significantly from that game believe it or not. He is also still playing in PTP mafia and is a self proclaimed SK. Ok, yeah that makes a lot more sense. Yeah, I'm starting to see how Kurumi could be a townie, but I could also see him as a scum who felt the pressure and is trying to change his tune. I still don't thing he should be lynched today. I'm trying to think of who should be, but I really don't know :/
But you agree that it shouldn't be freeloader?
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If Freeloader flips scum Kurumi is scum. If Freeloader flips town it means nothing.
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