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Astrithtx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States6 Posts
May 26 2011 13:59 GMT
#1
As a fairly new player to SC2, I have been coming here to find things-- but when I first came here, I felt like a chicken with my head cut off. Having a button or a section dedicated to new players that is more visable would be amazing. There is alot to take in for a few person like myself who is new to gaming (an older player).

Thanks
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 16:58:03
May 26 2011 16:55 GMT
#2
Here, the only button you need:

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Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 26 2011 16:56 GMT
#3
My only fear of having a new player section is that some people will find themselves not to follow the rules or get some leniency because they are "new" and don't understand the inner-workings and level of civility in the site.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Astrithtx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States6 Posts
May 26 2011 17:29 GMT
#4
I'm not suggesting a forum for new players but rather a page that has basic info that explains what things that all new players need to learn. It could also have a link to the wiki as well. It could also have links to feature videos by Day9's Newbie Tuesdays. Maybe someone could also make a welcome video explaining the rules on the site in addition to the text. It could also have some basic info that is not covered in the campaign/challenges part of the game. Just an idea.

The search button is a good tool but sometimes new players really don't know what they should be looking for.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 26 2011 17:32 GMT
#5
Like this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208343
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Astrithtx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States6 Posts
May 26 2011 17:48 GMT
#6
Sort of, but also have some information about finding a clan, your first tournament, how to watch replays and streams, and so forth. Maybe some info about being safe on other websites... noob stuff I know but still good infomation nonetheless. Also something with like that post without the feeling that I am reading a docutment but rather learning about the game.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25979 Posts
May 26 2011 18:29 GMT
#7
Trial by fire baby
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Astrithtx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States6 Posts
May 26 2011 18:36 GMT
#8
Trial by fire is a bad business approach. The more people come here, the more money the site makes. The more people theat they can get involved with SC2--the better it is for the site and the SC2 community as a whole.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 17:19:28
May 26 2011 19:44 GMT
#9
A Revival to Using TeamLiquid

Word from the author: a bit late, but this is my one-year anniversary here on Team Liquid. I've been working on this for quite a bit and I am ready to finally show it. This is not meant to be condescending, patronizing nor boastful. I just hope that this will be of use to some newer members or those who are unsure of some of the particularities of Team Liquid that I love/enjoy.

Upon arriving on Team Liquid

Upon arriving at the peak of competitive StarCraft II gaming, you will find yourself within a large community. After reading some posts, "lurking" and getting a feel for how the community works, you will soon see that this community differs from any other StarCraft II community or online community at all. Some consider it a hidden tavern of intelligence, competence and passion for a gaming scene you never understood or realized its height until now.

Nonetheless, there are three basic foundations as to why Team Liquid stands out on its own, although there are other factors to consider, these are ones the author views as the most prominent. There may be disagreements, but let's delve into it anyways:
  • Civility: If there is one thing Team Liquid prides itself on maintaining and establishing, it is its civility and courtesy. But this would not be so easily upheld without the iron fist moderation from the staff (Manifesto7 for example). Indeed, remaining polite, mature and above all else; not an angry person will make your stay here much easier and safer. It's important to remember that two wrongs do not make a right. When someone says something that is either very illogically wrong, hurtful or racist/sexist/ageist and/or discriminatory towards people of a different nature or sexual orientation you should never engage or enable this person's sort of thinking. Instead, you should report it.

    Reporting: Reporting is very easy and convenient. For users who have displayed dedication and devotion to the site, they are rewarded with a report feature. This report feature can be found at the top-right of a user's name next to the "P.M", "Profile" and "Quote" function (see image below):
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Upon reporting, you will be prompted with a textbox asking you for a reason as to why you find this post unredeemed or rule-breaking. For reference, please refer to the following useful topics:

The Ten Commandments
Tips for you! -by Brkow

If unsure about a post's value or contribution, you are free to ask Anything to the TL Staff.

Additionally, for those without the report feature, there are numerous ways to contact the staff outside of the report function via P.M (private message) of moderators or banlings or contact them via Team Liquid's IRC (Click here for a browser-based IRC and add "#teamliquid" in the channel section). Use the Query action (by clicking on their name) to privately message them via IRC.

  • Dedicated Staff: The staff on Team Liquid are hard-working, dedicated and volunteering staff. Their main intentions and goals of the site are not for profit, business or page views. While Team Liquid does rely on their sponsors to support the website as well as website traffic for sustainabilityfcommand, it is the attentive and contributory members and staff that are the ones that bring you up-to-date reports, updates and summaries of all your favorite tournaments, news, players and changes to the scene! Besides the very selected few, all staff members are volunteers and enjoy their work. But feel free to tell them you love their work, what they have done, etc. They deserve your appreciation and emotional support.

    The staff's accomplishments/achievements and work range from writing to the graphics you see all the around you to the very graphics that detail this website.

Team Liquid Progaming Database The TLPD is the largest and most resourceful tool to get facts, achievements, statistics and information about any big or small competitive StarCraft player since TLPD's birth back in 2007. Evidently, the three categories range form StarCraft II Korean Scene to the International scene to good ol' Brood War. The TLPD records a player's team history, their ELO and previously known aliases. As per all tools in Team Liquid. It does require the input of its members. Simiarly to Liquipedia, they, too, have a feedback topic.

StarCraft 2 and Brood War News and Team Liquid Pro are the hubs for the writers and editors to do their magic! You will see pieces of analysis, summaries of events and tournament winnings be posted with great graphical work from the Art department. If you have not seen a certain event or tournament yet, it is best suggested to avoid these two main archival sub-forums.

Additionally, the writers also dabble in their own editorials - also known as the Team Liquid Final Edits. For the graphics department; they, too get to have their in the Pony Tales Series. The Pony tales is a fun little project with delightful verbal goodies and pleasantries for those dreading times at work, school or alone at home.

Make sure to follow-up on your daily dose of R1CH to see what he is rummaging up beneath his robe of technical-wizardry. R1CH is currently spear-heading the tech. department and any issues or bugs you notice on the site or its features should be posted in the Website Feedback subforum.

*Useful URLs to consider when interested in what R1CH is up to:
TeamLiquid.net Changelog
R1CH's Twitter (Help him beat Hot_Bid!)


For the translators, you have The Community News which often contains all relevant news to up and coming tournaments, their details, Korean news and interviews that need translating and everything in-between that shows and promotes the E-Sports scene. Translators also take the time to translate relevant Korean Twitter messages or are even on the scene of important events such as Milkis at MLG 2011 Columbus.

*Useful Team Liquid URLs to consider
Translation Requests for Milkis
Milkis' Experience at MLG Columbus 2011 with the Koreans!
Milkis' Experience at MLG Columbus 2011 with the Koreans!


Lastly, the Brood War scene still has many moments to share, spectate and be dazzled by. Replay Uploaders often find hidden treasures in the depths of Brood War's long history and show them here. Leave a comment or tell everyone what you think! StarCraft Replays

To see who are the staff members and who to notify about a specific section on Team Liquid, refer to the roster here: TeamLiquid Staff Roster

  • Community: Communication and the community effect is something Team Liquid has been priding itself since the very beginning. There are many features that bind and reunite members all over the world such as:

    Liquipedia that asks for the combined effort, knowledge and experience of the members to contribute and input what they know for the new, curious and resourceful!

There are no requisites to helping out with both the Brood War or StarCraft II. You simply need to have a forum account registered and the will to help out! If you are unsure where to start, consider the pages that have little to no information pertaining to the subject, these pages are often called "stubs" because they are just leaflets of the aspect of the game and require perhaps more than just the description.

The following Liquipedia II Articles may help you figure how you can contribute:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Liquipedia:How_to_Contribute
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Special:SpecialPages

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On July 27 2011 04:39 Noam wrote:
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On July 22 2011 08:29 Stijx wrote:
I've recently taken an interest in writing for Liquipedia as I have a lot of time on my hands, love writing and love everything Starcraft. I wanted to ask what exactly is important to be done, and what can I do that will make a different to the wiki?


Someone recently asked me a similar question, I'll paste my reply:

In my opinion, the best place to start would be in the area you are the most interested in.

Some articles do not exist and simply need someone to compile all the data and write it in the standard liquipedia formatting.

For tournaments we have compiled a (Wiki)List of Tournaments without a page.
For players the list is (Wiki)Template:Notable Players Without Their Own Liquipedia Page.
You can also add to these lists if you notice something missing from them but cannot make the page yourself.

If do not want to start off the bat with a whole page, you can take a look at (Wiki)Category:Stubs and its many sub-categories to see if you can help expand a page which is lacking. There are many problematic strategy articles which are listed in their stub category.

And as was recently announced, the new (Wiki)Recent Tournament Results page is always looking for people to update it as soon as possible.

About the Caster Template:
Can you describe how a Caster template would differ from the Player template?
The Player Template already has several attributes which are relevant for casters such as: site, stream, twitter, video-archive.

You can see a complete list here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Template:Infobox_Player/doc


*Please note that the Brood War section of Liquipedia equally needs contributors:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Liquipedia:How_to_Contribute
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Special:SpecialPages


Lastly, if you want to portray your gratitude, inquiry or questions. The Liquipedia staff are on the set ready to help you either via their Liquipedia IRC Channel (refer to the section of reporting on how to access IRC) or their Feedback topic (can be found in the Website Feedback subforum).

Like for moderators and banlings, you can equally private message these staff members
All contributors of Liquipedia will receive a promotional coin for their efforts (see spoilered image for an example). This feature was introduced on April 28th, 2011 to show the staff's gratitude for any kind and all forms of help or additions the members have made! So if you are looking for some incentive or appreciation for your help, look no further than Liquipedia.

    Tournaments and Meet-Ups/LANs
    http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Team_Liquid_Starleague
    (Wiki)Team Liquid SC2 Open

    The Team Liquid tournaments and Leagues: Two major staples of the competitive scene in StarCraft harvests all the best, up and coming and potentially strong players that equally talk to you on the forums or see via other major tournament events. These tournaments are what keeps TeamLiquid more than just a spectator and journalist of StarCraft and E-Sports, but also what makes them a key identifier in determining who are the most noteworthy players (from both Korea or the foreign world) for team scouts/recruiters to consider. If you are looking to go professional or get a taste for the big leagues, Team Liquid is your stop. Additionally, The TL Opens allow for amateur casters to get some exposure and spectate some of the best matches in all of StarCraft's history.

Additionally, LANs and Meet-ups are commonly made and sought out by members around the world. Check often the TL Community subforum for places in and around your area for meet-ups, gatherings, tournaments, LANs and/or events.

Please note that as a community, we protect one another and just because you are civil or respectable on the site, does not mean your actions outside will not be held accountable as shown here.

Do not hesitate to use the search feature to find events in and around your area. While the topic may be outdated or old, that does not mean the members are currently inactive or have moved on. In the instance that there is a topic already available about seeking members around your location, do not hesitate to bump it up or post in it, despite its inactivity. Often times, just the keyword of a nearby major city or country will be sufficient in the search box to finding topics related to your place of residence.

    VoIP/Team Liquid's TeamSpeak
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    TeamSpeak (as of July 2011) currently sponsors and supports Team Liquid through their open tournaments and providing them with a reliable and secure VoIP program. TeamSpeak is geared towards gamers and requires one to have a microphone to relay voice-chat to other users. If you are looking for a place to talk to others, organize a game or communicate with your allies, consider TeamSpeak..

    At the bottom left corner for the forums, you will see a function that can redirect you to TeamSpeak. However, before-hand, you must install TeamSpeak. Thankfully, there is a guide and place for you to do so thanks to TheMango: TL TeamSpeak Server.

Step 1 is to download TeamSpeak: Download here. Upon doing so, follow the simple method of installing it. It is no different than any other previous program you have installed

Step 2 is to simply setup: By clicking TeamSpeak at the bottom left of the forums (below the Website Feedback sub-forum, Closed Threads section and IRC), you will be redirected here or directly initiating a connection to the server.

Step 3 requires basic setting up with TeamSpeak: You will first be prompted to enter your nickname, this can be anything you want not necessarily your username. Then your microphone settings; Voice-activation detection allows the program to transmit whenever you are talking or sound enters your microphone. This is very reliable and often used for many people (if selected, there will be a follow-up test sequence to determine your microphone's sensitivity levels), however push-to-talk is for those who wish to selectively choose when to transmit something they are saying to other fellow users (if selected, you will have pick a hotkey that will be your "transmit button". The author personally uses the key "caps lock").

A follow-up setup screen will ask if you have any additional keys you would like to bind or make a hotkey for TeamSpeak, change accordingly if desired. The rest of the setup sequence is just preference and you should be set to go!

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In most cases, you will not find yourselves using all the tools TeamSpeak has to offer, but do not be afraid to experiment, look around and see what kind of features TeamSpeak has to offer to you!

All rules and commandments that apply on the forums are applicable to the TL TeamSpeak Server. Do not act any differently than you would on the site.
    TL Attack and Streams

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    *Courtesy of TeamLiquid and Nevake (the uploaded for this specific episode)

    TL Attack is back and in StarCraft II. While supremely hilarious, entertaining and rejoicing to both the community and professional players of StarCraft, TL Attack on StarCraft II equally does what it does best: loosen up. But that is in simple terms. TL Attack removes the gap between pros and fans by allowing one another to play in a regular melee match (but not solely melee matches) while entertaining the viewers with colorful commentary, light-hearted jokes and jabs at both the players and themselves. TL Attack also showcases the capabilities and reuniting efforts of streams.

Live Streams

Live streams on Team Liquid has been growing since Livestream.com and Brood War. As technology improved, the diverse amount of games expanded and people's desire to entertain, contribute and give back to the community that they have spent years working with so did live streaming.

Live streaming consists (generally) of portraying your gameplay, showcasing a game or providing interesting , analytical and/or comedic commentary to a specific aspect of the gaming industry or of StarCraft specifically.

Before you consider livestreaming, make sure you understand how to live stream and if you have the technology to do so.
  • Can I live stream?: The first question most people ask when they want to live stream is: "is computer good enough to live stream?" Thankfully, our magician of technology, R1CH, has provided us an ample amount of information and tools to find out if you can. In short, the two most important components you should be checking about your computer and internet setup is the Upload Speed (at least 1.00 mb) and your CPU (usually quad-cores are sufficient).

Now that you've got that settled, you will be prompted two choices of streaming devices. There is FMLE, Flash Media Live Encoder; that gives full direct control to the user. Although not user-friendly, it is the most qualified and overall better device (that is currently free on the market).

Fortunately, there is a guide in working out FMLE (with additional required downloads to VHSC for video and VAC [Virtual Audio Cable] for sound) provided by Destiny (The URLs to download are either hosted and/or redirected from Destiny's guide as well).

There is also XSplit. An all-in-one friendly way to get many up and coming casters/streamers or community contributors live streaming their business and drumming up interest/viewers. XSplit boasts easy maneuverability, setting changes and comfortable UI, however it may cost a subscription fee now or within the near future (depending on when you are reading this guide).

Fortunately, it, too, has a guide (thanks after7days). Despite it being directed towards a particular streaming website/service, the guide works cooperative with any other website.

That is step 2 of being on your way to streaming. Selecting a streaming service is an area we will delve in. They are all suitable, though justin.tv being the most supported by the gaming community at the moment. There is also Own3D.tv, DailyMotion, Livestream and UStream, but it all comes down to personal preference, experience and comfort. If you find yourself being trouble by customer support, bogged by ads or relentless problems with a particular site, do not hesitate to try another or to ask the community for their thoughts (though, please make sure to search first, I am sure others have asked before you).

Step 3 is TeamLiquid oriented. TeamLiquid is not very rigid about who they allow advertising their stream on their site. They simply ask for three things: 1. To remain respectful with the community members on the forums. This includes forms of cheating and/or blatant racism. 2. To show forms of basic contribution or participation with the community members via some posts or activity and 3. To be a registered member for at least 30 days prior to your registration date (which can be found on your public profile).

If you feel you meet these requirements, feel free to use the application found on the first post in the "Streaming on TL" topic: Apply here! Most applications get answer (whether positive or negative) within a couple of days. It is dependent on when staff get around to either accepting or declining your application. Additionally, if you TeamLiquid to reflect a new stream website you have started hosting your entertainment with, use the same application as noted previously above.

Step 4 is optional, but upon being accepted (you'll be contacted via private message), you can use the same application to submit your attached topic that will allow viewers who are more vocal to leave you feedback, comments and/or support to your cause or entertainment! Make your stream topic in the appropriate section as instructed in the first post in the topic: either in StarCraft 2 General Section or the Brood War General Section (from there, if your topic is associated with your stream, it will be accordingly moved).

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Step 5 is a bonus and is just an overview of all the streaming options you have available. Upon being accepted, you have a "Stream" function right below your "Profile" function at the top-left corner. Upon clicking, you will be prompted with the master board of your stream options. While most is explanatory on its own, you should take note of "Stream managers" which allow three forms of access to people you trust and Game which has a variety of options ranging from Chess to Brood War/StarCraft II and recently League of Legends!

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And that's pretty much it! You are good to go and strut your stuff to the world! People often use Twitter or their stream topic to notify other users that they are streaming and what content they intend to showcase! However: *It is the author's personal opinion, if unsure whether you should stream or not (since it does require a lot of bandwidth and effort to maintain a stream), that you should stream for your own personal enjoyment and if and when your content would be of interest or service to people sometime in the future. Asking others if they'd watch before actually doing it is a pitfall for disappointment. Please do not commit only to get views or for popularity, the outcome may not be what you hoped for.

*Useful Team Liquid URLs to consider when interested in watching some streams:
TeamLiquid's channel for events such as TL Attack and TL Tournaments!
Team Liquid Detailed List of all Streams
The Nydus Network - A portal to previewing and viewing all of Team Liquid's online streams!
The Team of Team Liquid stream status (look to the right)
The TL Calendar listing, showing all important/major events or entertaining shows coming up
Forum of all the User Streams to comment in
Author's personally suggested stream


How to Post (and What Not to Post)

(my favourite part)

Posting on Team Liquid isn't an art nor a way of adapting (although for some it may be). In general, proper and acceptable posts vary, but follow several established codes in order to cooperate with this community. However, if you check the Closed Threads section and the Automatic Ban List, you'll see a lot of people banned for various reasons you are perhaps unsure of. Fear not, because I present to you:

The OTHER Ten (Commandments)
I am obliged to state that these are not commandments, but rather complementary guidelines you should follow


-> Read the rules One would think that this is obvious, but too many people (read: more than 0) seem to overlook or just assume that the rules either do not apply or skimmer around them thinking they have found a loophole. The rules flex given the circumstances and so will the leniency or tolerance of the staff. This also includes following the repercussions for not following the rules. If you are banned for X time, wait out your time and do not try to go around it (it will only further the duration of your ban and dig yourself a further hole) nor try to edit out the warning/ban from your post.

-> No Advertising This goes hand-in-hand with This is our House. Nobody wants a telemarketer on the phone and no one wants a person trying to convert you to their religion (at their doorstep). Good deeds are for the community, not yourself. If you have something to announce or give to the community in the form of replays, an informational show and/or important news; remember who it is for and who gains from it the most. If it is you, then consider our advertising views and look at it from our perspective. Some examples of this range from: "Hey guys, I am an up and coming caster, check out my videos and give me some criticisms!" to "I am a High-Master's Terran Coach offering his services for XYZ price!".

Team Liquid is not Craigslist or Google The community is not here to service you, but to help everyone. If you are asking for help with your homework, to photoshop, for coaching or where you can find XYZ, you are on the wrong forums. There are topics for StarCraft related inquiries, but topics that serve no purpose but to help only you out are just as misplaced on the website as advertising and the advertisers. Use Google if you need help finding something and use Craigslist if you are looking for a particular service. Some examples of this would be: "I have this mouse that is barely used up for sale if anyone wants to buy it, I'll pay for shipping just send me a p.m!" to "What is that song that plays at the beginning for GSL Season 3".

-> Remember your place This is an extension to Respecting Forum Veterans. Remember, you are who you are. If you are not a moderator or staff member, do not say what they'll do, be proactive and report (see above for methods on reporting). Saying things such as: "this topic will be closed" or "Closing in 3... 2... 1..." are neither comedic nor useful. If you feel a subject (or lack thereof) doesn't warrant a whole topic, do not keep it afloat by proclaiming so (or repeating what others have said). Report it properly and move on, nothing more needs to be said or done.

-> Read the forums In accordance to Thinking before posting, one should always read the forums before posting and/or making a new topic. The search feature is available and saying something that has been repeated/corrected or noted in the original post before-hand over several pages is more harmful than you might originally assume (consider how much misinformation gets spread and established based on the people posting without properly verifying). Read what you are getting yourself into, your opinion will be much more valued that way.

-> No Religious Topics They lead to nowhere, concession is rare and it extends beyond factual forms of arguments. They're endless and just end up spiraling out of control and tip-toe around condescension of different religions and their believers. Topics or blog entries about your religion that doesn't set the stage for debating one's Ethnocentric views are perfectly fine, so long as they remain that way.

-> No Balance Complaints There's nothing TeamLiquid.net can do, if you have a complaint or view about StarCraft II, try The StarCraft II Forums (EU Website of StarCraft II). Talking about how banelings are too strong, stalkers are too fast or a certain race is too powerful due to your own circumstantial or anecdotal experience is not a valid argument nor contributory to the pertaining conversation.

-> No Battle.net or Blizzard Suggestions There's nothing TeamLiquid.net can do, if you have a suggestion for the Battle.net UI and/or Blizzard in general, try The StarCraft II Forums (EU Website of StarCraft II). Topics including forms of suggesting maps that aren't being professionally used, removing certain functions of the UI or telling Blizzard to get their head out of their ass ultimately achieves nothing. Blizzard doesn't officially read these forums, your suggestions would be best heard on their forums.

-> Guard your emotions People will say ideas/views that anger, sadden, sigh or piss you off and you know what, it probably pisses a lot of other people off too. But the difference between them and you is that their stay will eventually be short and yours will be infinitely longer. In addition to that, you will learn restraint and tolerance, key things to being a potential staff member! The point being, if a player, organization or person says or does something you do not like, try and convey this emotion in a way that they can benefit from it. Constructive criticism helps remedy what bothers you, insults and derogatory remarks only causes people to disregard who you are or what you say. If there is nothing worthwhile to say to them, do not bother saying it.

-> Understanding bends with you, not for you In view of the above commandment, this one has no real aim or goal. The more you bend with the pace of the conversation and not stoop yourself to the levels of those who infuriate or intentionally provoke, the less you'll see punishments issued to you. Punishments have a guideline, repeated offenses obviously incur longer bans. However, good behavior, exposure and contribution can put you on a side that will see the light of day on TL for much, much longer. Treat others how you'd like to be treated in a society and you'll come to realize that being your sincere and mindful self will have its reaped benefits and comfortable stay here at Team Liquid. Remember, derailing a topic for your gain or spotlight is not acceptable, if you have something that is pertinent, speak of it.

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How to make a Thread/Topic

Making a thread or topic on Team Liquid is relatively easy. All the rules in making a post, apply to making a thread with a few minor additions or suggestions that will help you keep out of trouble and into creating some interesting subjects to discuss!

General Section
    The general section is often used to discuss recent news, pop culture and/or the real things in life. It is a place to have a meaningful discussion with either like-minded or critical thinkers. Be warned that discussions about hot-button issues can get heated, so do not be afraid to just step back and take a breather.

  • Avoid making topics that are sensationalized. This means that you are using word-play and/or stretching the truth in order to reel in emotions or a reaction from the readers. You are post a topic to inform, not to entertain.

  • Avoid making topics that are more related to you than the society. The key difference between blogs and the general section is the idea of a personal problem and societal issue. If something purely affects you and is anecdotal, chances are, it doesn't belong in the general section.

  • Add content: a summary, a brief view of your opinion. Simply posting the URL to the article is not sufficient for a topic. You must at least quote the article, write a summary andn/or add an opinion. This should help fuel a discussion and show that you care about the actual subject and its eventual conversation among the users.

  • Post your sources. If you do not have a source, it might as well be fictional
Sports & Games
    Sports & Games is the section where all interests of other games or sports related matters go in. If you are looking for opponents or friends to add, make sure to check out the PSN/XBL lisitings and/or for PC: join the TL.net Steam group. The rules for The Sports and Games section for making a topic are relatively simple:

  • Make sure it has sufficient content revolving around the game/sport or subject (if you are just looking for friends, making a topic about it is not okay.

  • Make sure to search that your game is not already on the forums. Bumping a topic about your game with an inquiry or contribution is entirely fine.

*Team Liquid Game Communities that are already established:
Team Fortress 2!
Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition
Heroes of Newerth
Application for the League of Legends and forum game: Mafia sub-forum (you must apply in order to gain access)
Guild Wars II
Team Liquid Minecraft servers and discussion
List of Games by Serejai, not listed in this section
TL Community
    The TL community is precious. It is one of the major pillars that stands this community out from any other website or gathering place. In this section, you can use the TL community to organize meet-ups, find people within your area, ask the TL Staff interesting, pertinent or silly questions and discuss about the latest members who been banned. There isn't really anything to add or to note as additional requirements when making a thread or post on Team Liquid. If organizing a meet-up or LAN, make sure to give as much details as possible: The date and time, location (directions if needed), entry fee (if there is any), what equipment they should bring, the schedule, etc. etc. Be clear.
Fan Clubs

    Fan Clubs is a new forum deviating from the TL community, with the rise of StarCraft II people felt so passionate about their favourite progamer, celebrity, personality and/or team(s) that they started making topics devoted solely to them. Not anyone can have a fan club and not any kind of subject will be accepted as a proper fan club topic.

  • Fan Clubs are a place to support your favourite pro gamer, any bashing or condescending criticisms is not accepted. Talking about how your pro gamer didn't play up to par to his usual or mentioning what he could improve for next match our tournament is entirely acceptable. Using a fan club as a stage to announce your hate for someone is never accepted.

  • Fan Club topics must revolve around the subject who is relatively notable within the community. Generally, making a fanclub for yourself is not accepted.

  • When making a fan club, you are responsible to keep it up to date with members who have signed up as a publicly supporter of the players/subject and with any news content, pictures, video interviews or achievements. A lack of these key features may lead your fan club to be closed until improved. Feel free to use the TLPD or Liquipedia for content.
Tech Support
    The tech support forum is not for everyone and please be cautious on giving advice or asking advice. However, rely on this subforum for any issues you are having with your StarCraft clients, your computer, streaming or anything in-between.

  • Before making an inquiry, make sure your question has not already been asked by using the Search Feature or checking out the sticky or garnering topics at the top of the forum's lobby: Problems related to streaming, Computer resource topics, Relocalizing your StarCraft II client, Support FAQ & Guides, Tech Support Guidelines.

  • When making a post regarding your issues, make sure to supply enough information to help you. Telling us your computer is making weird noises is not enough. Detail when it happens, when did it start happening, any other issues your computer had, how long you've had your computer and the most important one: your computer specifications. This includes, but not limited to; CPU, Video-card, PSU, amount of RAM and computer's manufacturer. Leaving this information out makes helping you much harder than it needs to be.

  • Do not google solutions for users If you do not know what you are googling nor what you are reading as a solution, do not help. Unlike most views, sometimes trying to help is not helpful at all and should leave it to those who are more comfortable in this field or line of work. While your intentions are appreciated and understood, you may be further complicating the problem.

  • When faced with a problem, make sure to do your own research and attempt to repair your own problems first. If the solution you've found is something you are unfamiliar with, feel free to make a topic about it!
SC2/BW General Section
    This is the place with the most happening and under the most scrutiny. The SC2/BW General section is for anything related to the games or the scene. Ranging from news about upcoming major tournaments to professional players leaving/joining/retiring (from) a team, you can find all the important stuff here first. In addition, discussion of the different aspects of the game, its mechanics, up and coming patches and fun creations (in the forms of songs, sculptures, 3D animation, etc.). Everything under the sun about StarCraft you can find here, in the general section! With such a wide variety of topics, there are certain guidelines you should be aware of:

  • The forums is not your place to recruit new members to your site/clan/team Believe it or not, Team Liquid is not an orchid where you can pick our apples. Topics related to recruiting new members to your team or finding new friends are instantly closed. If it is not contributory or geared towards a form of a discussion, it probably doesn't belong in this subforum. Try these topics for finding practice partners/friends or clans in joining: #tlpickup on IRC, Clan Recruitment topic, Practice Partner Thread.

  • Small questions are not for topics. The flexibility in the Brood War General section is dependent on the topic subject. One-answer simple questions are never accepted and should be asked in the monthly General Discussion topic (found at the top of the SC2 General Section: here is an example).

  • Criticisms or specific views on a topic should remain within a topic. Even if you have an elaborate view on an issue that has its own topic, doesn't mean you can post a whole new topic for it. If every user did that, we'd have several duplicate topics about the same issue, cluttering up the forums.

  • As always, contentless topics do not last very long on the forums. Avoid them, this means topics purely about a funny video or images is not sufficient and shows you didn't put much effort in presentation. Additionally, we also have a topic for videos and images.

  • If you do not speak the language, do not translate the news Internet translators are not the best tool to fully understanding or deciphering a different language. If you find something that may be newsworthy, contact the translation staff members found here and ask them to help you out.
Strategy Section
    The Strategy section for Brood War and StarCraft II is probably the most underrated and yet, desired place to improve one's ability in the game. The StarCraft strategy section of both Brood War and StarCraft II is a rigid and strict place to give advice and to ask for it. You can and will get banned from the subforum for not reading the guidelines and policies set in place. This is not to scare or intimidate you, but rather to ensure that the strategy section remains a place to build or construct one's ability within the game and the quality of the forum.

  • Before even responding or making a topic in the StarCraft Strategy sub-forums, consider the idea of your topic. Is it a simple question that doesn't really need a whole thread? If so, there is a sticky topic for this: StarCraft II & for Brood War.

  • Hold up, what about the fact that your topic is inquiring about build orders. Believe it or not, Liquipedia has a wide array of up-to-date tested and viable build orders for you to look through and potentially answer your basic question: StarCraft II Strategy & for Brood War.

  • No, not yet! Hold on! Can't make a topic yet! If you are looking for help, you must reach out before other pulls you out of the murky waters of your trouble! Consider analyzing your replays. How do you do that? Meet Day [9]: The guru of StarCraft, the Mr. Miyagi of strategy and John Madden of Analysis! He has just the tool-tip to help you with that issue from his daily show: The Day [9] Daily #317 - How did I lose?. Even Plexa himself, a staff member here on TL.net has given you a variety of useful forms of understanding and analyzing your own replays. In most cases, especially for the lower leagues, the main contribution to your loss was lack of workers and/or poor management of resources. Pay attention to how much you have stockpiled, how much you could have spent or you could have had if you fully saturated your bases with (24) workers (3 on each gas geyser + 18 on the mineral line).

  • Still uncomfortable? Unsure of the basics? Do not click that new topic function. CecilSunkure is on the way with your dosage of how to macro, boxing, Microing and basic mechanics and map-awareness! Consider his How to improve efficiently guide before running to the highest mountain for help! There's even Ver's original: How to improve PDF that could use some reading! Still updated regularly, we have wo1fwood's (for StarCraft II only) Basic Openings & Timings guide!! A very helpful guide to showing you the ropes towards an improved and concrete playstyle!

  • Finally, y'know, if you really feel that none of these guides have helped you improve at all. Make a topic! But make sure it follows the very strict guidelines of the StarCraft Strategy forums. The StarCraft Strategy section has been through a lot revisions, firm moderation and stern beliefs on its criterias and quality. If your post lacks details, contribution and/or pertinence, it will be met with consequences. So please, make sure to read the basic formatting and guidelines for the StarCraft Strategy section, that's all that it asks and deserves.

    Think I am kidding about all that seriousness? Take a gander at the Purge Topic to avoid the pitfalls and mistakes people often rushing to the strategy section.

  • Nonetheless, all in all, if you want to last in that strategy section of the forums make sure all your posts are contributory, supported with evidence (replays, replays, replays) and showcases your effort of thinking, analyzing and/or attempt to understand (your mistakes, your build or discussion topic).

    Other than that, you are good to go! Keep in mind that if your question is relatively minor, we do have a small section related to these sort of things (not important or big enough for a topic, but has no real place in a discussion). Try asking at the Simple Questions/Answers sticky! People are bound to stumble onto your question and answer it happily!

    Additionally, be on the lookout for Highlighted Users/Posts in the Strategy section. They are trusted and well-informed StarCraft players. Their judgement are often informed, well-placed and thought out. It doesn't mean they are always right, but a strong perspective to consider. However, remember that these are players: they win and they lose some, so do not purely be on the look out for their posts, all posts should be equally contributory and well-informed as well (and perhaps not quire recognized yet; have you considered nominating them?
Blogs
    Believe it or not, the blog section is not "everything else" of a subject or topic. It does have its ruling, but the level of tolerance here are much lower due to its diversity (since everything is relative to the blogger). Nonetheless, if you are looking to give someone some tips about meeting a person, give some feedback about a project of a person and/or just react to something funny/witty or sad about a blogger, this is the place to do it.

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    Just say 5/5 would read again and you are pretty much set in the blogs sub-forum!


  • Do not fabricate stories. Team Liquid has a level of trust within the community, we're not an audience and we're not spectators to your spectacle. Do not impersonate someone or a story that isn't true.

  • Show some respect. Some people literally pour their heart and soul into these blogs and would just like an honest reply or sympathy. Posting "TLDR" is not only pointless, but it is rude and lacking.

  • 1-Starring blog entries without reading or even taking the time to state why is an offense and potentially punishable.

  • The blogs section is not a stage to promote your views or opinions about a subject that already has its own topic. Post your opinion there, do not clutter the blogs with a self-important view.
Website Feedback
    There isn't much to say here, if you have something constructive to say, criticize about the website, make a topic here! Additionally, features you'd love to see added and/or you found a bug on the site, please post it here as well. Staff members are very active in answering your questions or views with a respectful tone. Just because you are new, contributed little or have a difficult record of offenses or issues, doesn't mean you are less of a member or of less importance. All forms of feedback are accepted and responded to with as much respect as you give! Do not be afraid to speak your mind, we're all friends here!

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Not sure where to start? Consider The Hot-Button Topics simmering with discussion for your delight! Order your first post today!

Finding a Clan

In StarCraft II and its diverse community of players, professionals and fans, there are groups of people bonded together to form clans. A clan in StarCraft II or in several other Blizzard games (including WarCraft III, Diablo and they're also known as guilds in World of Warcraft) is a sub-society or group of people who have a common goal they hope to accomplish or be guided by when playing their favourite Blizzard games. However, the goals for each clan are relatively different, but can be categorized into 3 types:
  • Casual
This can range from team ladder games, to friendly in-house competitions, Free for alls to just generally taking the game at a leisurely pace. There is no ultimate goal or result desired from these sorts of clans. They hope purely to have other people they can comfortably discuss and play games with. If you are looking for people to play with without the pressure or need to improve exponentially, consider casual-classified clans

  • Competitive
The competitive clan revolves around one or two of these major goals: Helping one another to improve one's individual 1 vs. 1 league, ranking, points and/or becoming a professional competitive team similar to professional groups (such as Evil Geniuses, Team Liquid and Team Dignitas [current leaders in the competitive scene of StarCraft II]. There are two typical expectations upon applying and being accepted into these forms of clans: The diligence and motivation to want to improve and the stern focus to succeed and win tournament matches (while representing your clan)

  • Other
There is no real definition of these sorts of clans. They vary between User-Made Custom Maps to pure silliness and miscellaneous content revolving around a specific Blizzard game and/or everything else that needs or involves a group of peers.


*Useful Team Liquid URLs to consider when interested in joining or inquiring about clans:
Team & Clan Recruitment Thread
Team Liquid Progaming Database


Your First Tournament

One thing to note when considering of taking your tournament is that the atmosphere of tournament play is completely or vastly different than your typical ladder and/or custom melee map. However, remain calm, dry your sweaty palms and consider the fact that your opponent is no different than an opponent over ladder: someone you need to beat or win against.
  • Picking your first tournament
Most would say to sign-up to any kind of tournament and just expose yourself, however I, personally, am lead to disagree. When deciding which tournament to sign-up with, consider these two factors:

1. Pick tournaments that are near or around your skill level. This is due to the fact that you do not want to use your time in tournaments purely to lose to someone beyond your level. You want to get a feel for tournament play, the variety of maps (that are not necessarily Ladder maps and/or ladder versions of a map).

2. Select weekly tournaments that garner a lot of players. Weekly tournaments might ease any form of nervousness because the ultimate prize is little, the next tournament of that series will be around next week and often times, the same players return, allowing you to potentially play them again and improve or become familiar with interesting styles of play (while also trying your own new creative plays).

Overall, tournament play is quite an experience while also giving you exponential exposure of well-established clans that can offer you even more opportunities such as high-level prize tournaments, bookmarked events like (Wiki)Dreamhack, (Wiki)MLG and (Wiki)GSL. When losing in a tournament, do not fear too down, you cannot win them all remember, there are plenty of other tournaments you can try your hand at!

*Useful Team Liquid URLs to consider when interested in joining or inquiring about tournaments:
Team Liquid's Tournament Tracker
StarCraft: Brood War Tournament section
StarCraft II Tournament section
Personally suggested weekly tournament from the writer: The CraftCup (EU version)
Personally suggested weekly tournament from the writer: The CraftCup (US version)


  • Making your own tournament
Making your own tournament is difficult. It requires time, organization, planning and foresight of potential problems. There are many sites that facilitate this and many functions in TL to not only guide you, but to help you get your feet off the ground and into a realm of E-Sports.

-> To start off, who is the tournament for?

-> Do you want all divisions, leagues, countries and players playing? Is it for North America only? You must select limits to who can enter and how many.

-> Next, you want to decide if there is a prize-pool, what is it, what is the distribution of the prizes or if there are any prizes at all (it is okay if there are not).

-> The Map-pool: the map-pool is very important, you want to choose popular maps that are commonly played (unless your tournament is geared otherwise) to attract interested parties. It is not uncommon to copy a map-pool from another more prestigious tournament. MLG's map-pool is commonly referred to within the scene. Refer to their site to see which maps they are currently using. Additionally, in most cases, you can find their edition of a map via Battle.net's search custom map feature:

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-> The brackets: The brackets are basically the branches of your tournament. Depending on how many slots you intend to have for your tournament, you must make set up your tournament in an efficient way that is time-efficient and fair for all players. In other words, how many games should a player play against his opponent before moving onto the next round. It isn't uncommon to have rounds that are best of one (meaning, whoever wins the 1st game, moves onto the next round) until the semi-finals that are typically best of three (first to reach 3 wins) and the finals best of five (first to reach 5 wins). However, feel free to experiment, also remember that each round needs a map or a systematic way of deciding maps.

-> Reporting matches: This is where things get tricky, but so long as you are available and have a team of administrators/managers to help you out, the amount of issues can be minimized. Reporting wins from players can be messy, but by using the chat tools offered on the internet, it can be avoided. Consider IRC as a form of reporting wins, there is also via e-mail and Battle.net's chat feature. For increased validity and to ensure no one cheats, you can demand the winner to supply a replay of the match for further verification.

-> Establishing rules: All tournaments needs rules, although if ambiguous or lacking, people will take advantage of it to either cheat and/or absolve themselves from blame. The bottom-line being: be concise and clear with your rules. As a guideline, the top three rules that should be in every tournament are: 1. No cheating allowed - Third party tools to gain an advantage over your opponent/watching a live stream to see what your opponent is doing (this also includes "smurfing"/impersonating a league or rank different than your own on someone else's or a secondary account). 2. Remain civil and mannered, idle chit-chat is generally accepted, but rudeness and personal threats or attacks towards the opponent should not be tolerated and 3. Be promptly on time (generally, if an opponent does not show up or put in any form of communication for his delay for a match, you can disqualify and/or penalized them heavily after 15 minutes or so).

Well, glad we got that all settled! Remember, the above bullets are guidelines and are only suggested, not mandatory.

Once you have done all of that, feel free to apply your tournament to the Team Liquid Tracker! This should help you with advertising your tournaments. Fill in all the necessary information. If accepted (you will be notified via private message), you will see your tournament listed in the tracker.

For additional advertising, try submitting your tournament in the TL Calendar. However with the influx of tournaments applying and floating around, the calendar is usually reserved for prized-tournaments and/or those with casters/commentators.

It is always suggested to make a forum topic in the StarCraft tournament section (either of Brood War or StarCraft II) to draw in more players

*Useful URLs to consider when making your own tournament:
Commonly used site to host tournaments with relevant information and brackets
Tool to create brackets for a tournament
Tool to create brackets for a tournament




Accreditation goes to JWD for his advice and suggestions. Nazgul for the permission to do this and disciple, DivinO for hookin' me up! All content is written by Torte de Lini and does not necessarily reflect the official position, view, value or opinion of TeamLiquid.net or its staff.

Constant updating will be made upon this accessory. If I have missed any useful and updated tools that TeamLiquid has to offer or an addition that would further the use of this entry, please let me know as soon as possible. All forms of constructive criticism is appreciated and considered!





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Astrithtx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States6 Posts
May 26 2011 20:31 GMT
#10
Great information and it is really helpful. I am really new to the site and SC2 which is why I orignally made the post. I hope somehow that they can do something with it because it is helpful.

I didn't even know how to watch someone elses replay until only recently. This is something that would have been helpful for me when I first started out.
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
May 26 2011 20:41 GMT
#11
On May 27 2011 03:36 Astrithtx wrote:
Trial by fire is a bad business approach. The more people come here, the more money the site makes. The more people theat they can get involved with SC2--the better it is for the site and the SC2 community as a whole.

Wish people would stop appealing to the "money for the site" aspect as a reason to change TL. If you knew anything about TL you would understand that the business approach is far down the ladder of priorities.
d=(^_^)z
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 26 2011 20:52 GMT
#12
On May 27 2011 05:41 elmizzt wrote:
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On May 27 2011 03:36 Astrithtx wrote:
Trial by fire is a bad business approach. The more people come here, the more money the site makes. The more people theat they can get involved with SC2--the better it is for the site and the SC2 community as a whole.

Wish people would stop appealing to the "money for the site" aspect as a reason to change TL. If you knew anything about TL you would understand that the business approach is far down the ladder of priorities.


Omg yes, 100% agreed.
Money shouldn't be a factor for TL, at least not something we need to be aware about (maybe for staff and administrators)
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Astrithtx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States6 Posts
May 26 2011 21:14 GMT
#13
I apoligize, just trying to be helpful when I made the money comment, agian I'm new here and I apoligize. Though expanding the community expand as a whole is a good idea though.

I am just giving some feedback that I experienced as a new player to the game about the website. The other thing I will say as a new person to the site is the main page really feels like information overload.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 26 2011 21:15 GMT
#14
Don't worry about it, everyone gets your intentions :B
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
May 26 2011 21:53 GMT
#15
While I don't necessarily agree I feel that part of the new member splash page (idk what to call it) that shows up on first login which includes links to the TL rules for example, there could also be links to the Simple questions thread, and a link to the cecilsunkure improve thread, and plexas analyzing replays thread. Just those two combined should be of huge help to new members along with the TL rules link
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