• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:29
CEST 00:29
KST 07:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2910Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format5[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!0Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back3BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Co-op Commander Guide: Kerrigan Serral wins HomeStory Cup 29 Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back Is the larve respawn broken?
Tourneys
GSL CK #5 Race War WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! [ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5247 users

Terran - Lacking spells?

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 14:39:28
May 19 2011 14:28 GMT
#1
I don't know how other people feel about this, but when I play Terran, it always seems as if there aren't many spells I can use that are still viable in higher level games.

With Zerg, you have burrow tactics, fungal growth, contaminate, etc. that are all viably strategies.

With Protoss, it's even more evident, as well placed forcefields can lead to the masses of TL screaming about imbalance. Add on top of that storm and whatever other spells that Protoss may have.

With Terran, it seems as if EMP is like the only skill that can actually be used. Sure, there are other spells such as Heat Seeker Missle or 250mm Strike Cannon. But in all honesty, those are all terrible spells that no one ever uses. All Terrans do these days are make marauders and lol.

There's a pretty simple solution to all of Terran's problems.

Bring back the lockdown.

User was temp banned for this post
God Bless
Blackk
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa226 Posts
May 19 2011 14:29 GMT
#2
And the science vessel while they're at it.
hah.
Discerpo
Profile Joined July 2010
263 Posts
May 19 2011 14:30 GMT
#3
Do you not include Stimpack or Siege Mode as a spell?

I can't see how you can include Burrow as a spell if they aren't.

Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
May 19 2011 14:31 GMT
#4
QXC has being showing how amazing snipe is against units like infestors and Brood Lords in TvZ which is kinda cool, Don't forget we have PDD which pretty much shuts Stalkers down for a while (or vikings in TvT if you can spare the gas) which I find pretty useful.
Its less a matter of how many we have but where they are located, eg. Battlecruisers are t3, Ghosts are reasonably expensive, Thors are thors (thats a reason if I want it to be) and the Raven has 3 spells all in all which are all cool but mostly niche.
Considering learning BW
ATTILAtheFUN
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14 Posts
May 19 2011 14:31 GMT
#5
stim and siege count if burrow counts
Tor
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada231 Posts
May 19 2011 14:32 GMT
#6
Lockdown would be so op with current ghosts and smart cast. Probably best to just make hunter seeker missile more interesting and useful
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 19 2011 14:32 GMT
#7
On May 19 2011 23:30 Discerpo wrote:
Do you not include Stimpack or Siege Mode as a spell?

I can't see how you can include Burrow as a spell if they aren't.


siege yes stim no but eh pdd is awesome so is heal
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
May 19 2011 14:32 GMT
#8
I think that with EMP, raven's spells, stimpack all game long, tanks which need siege and all sort of micro you need to provide during a game I would be desperate if I had to make even more spells. I would even prefer if they add "spells" to other races, like remove the auto charge and add a button for it or things like that. But only my personal opinion^^
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
May 19 2011 14:32 GMT
#9
Stim, Concussive Shell, Healing ability from the medivac, EMP, (cloak), (siege mode), PDD, seeker missile
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
Kerm
Profile Joined April 2010
France467 Posts
May 19 2011 14:33 GMT
#10
Snipe ? Point Defense drone ? Nuke ?
All those have been seen in high level matches.

So i'd disagree with your point.
What i know is that I know nothing - [http://twitter.com/UncleKerm]
ATTILAtheFUN
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14 Posts
May 19 2011 14:33 GMT
#11
stim siege snipe pdd auto turret strike cannons
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19228 Posts
May 19 2011 14:34 GMT
#12
Protoss - storm and forcefield
Zerg - burrow, fungal growth, neural parasite, contaminate
Terran - stim, EMP, nuke, 250mm strike cannons, siege mode, PDD, auto turret, cloak, cloak

I think Roffles is lost and confused.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
AKspartan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States126 Posts
May 19 2011 14:34 GMT
#13
The topic of adding new spells to the game is always an interesting one but no I don't think Terran is lacking with regards to spells relative to the other races. If anything Zerg is the race most lacking in spellcasters, but then again the infestor is the most versatile and arguably the most powerful spellcaster in the game at the moment.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 19 2011 14:34 GMT
#14
Bring back the lockdown haha :D Well played.
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 14:35:43
May 19 2011 14:34 GMT
#15
burrow has to be the same as siege mode, stim pack can also be considered a spell and a huge one too since it makes your army almost 50% more effective.

you also got cloak for banshees & ghosts, snipe, emp (nukes are so gimmicky its meh).


and the best of all: the HEALBUS. Heal is huge. Combined with drop it makes bio so much more cost efficient than it is without it.

also PDD!!! Give me a break this is almost a dark swarm there!
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 14:37:10
May 19 2011 14:34 GMT
#16
I like watermelons.

And useful spells.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
adun12345
Profile Joined May 2011
United States198 Posts
May 19 2011 14:34 GMT
#17
Also, medivac healing. Terran has some very good "spells" - stim, healing, EMP, PDD - but they aren't concentrated on a single spellcaster unit (in the same way that GS and FF are for the Protoss). Maybe Terran is lacking in spellcasters (though I'd say that both the ghost and raven have good spells), but Terran players certainly aren't lacking in good spells in general.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 19 2011 14:35 GMT
#18
You have this feeling because Raven are not as used as Science Vessel were.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
May 19 2011 14:35 GMT
#19
Would exchange HSM for Irradiate everytime ^^
TPW Member | My Maps @ TL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=171486 | Search 'dezi' at EU
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
May 19 2011 14:36 GMT
#20
Using Lockdown on Collosus.....

A man can dream.....
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 31m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 655
SpeCial 182
ViBE179
CosmosSc2 25
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 89
ZZZero.O 54
Counter-Strike
summit1g7977
minikerr20
Other Games
tarik_tv4717
Grubby3544
shahzam445
C9.Mang0219
XaKoH 204
ToD87
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2716
BasetradeTV281
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 49
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21652
Other Games
• Shiphtur455
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
1h 31m
The PondCast
11h 31m
Kung Fu Cup
12h 31m
Replay Cast
1d 10h
CrankTV Team League
1d 12h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
3 days
Dragon vs Hawk
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.