• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:27
CEST 20:27
KST 03:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?125Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!46
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism SC4ALL: II Winner will earn a spot at HSC 30! SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 7/8 Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game
Tourneys
KSL Week #92 IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly 2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This
Brood War
General
Broodwar Prediction Market Terran or Protoss [D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group A Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL22] Ro16 Group B Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Diablo IV [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8574 users

Grandmaster League Info Thread

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 35 36 37 Next All
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 15:20:46
April 11 2011 23:56 GMT
#1
Grandmaster is the highest league in the SC2 ladder, consisting of the top 200 players in the region. Grandmaster League goes live 1 week after a ladder season begins.

Eligibility
Eligibility is determined over the opening week of a ladder season. Players who have the 200 highest MMR moving averages and who have bonus pools that are less than 90 (1 week's worth) will have spots reserved for them in Grandmaster League. However, you need to win a game after the league goes live in order to be promoted. An important clarification here (noxn asked this question yesterday and I got an answer today): if you have a slot reserved but someone else gets a higher MMR moving average than you before you play your promotion game, your slot will be taken!

Activity Rule
Grandmaster players remain in Grandmaster League until the end of the season. If your bonus pool accumulates to 180 (2 weeks' worth), you are automatically removed from Grandmaster League and a new player will take your spot. This is the only way to get removed from this league.

Please keep GM League discussion to this thread. GM League is currently live on all servers.
Moderator
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
April 11 2011 23:59 GMT
#2
Ah, can't play till friday... pretty sure I would have gotten in though (http://sc2ranks.com/us/372731/SCGenX) How long does it take for 270 bonus pool to accumulate? I'm guessing the first 200 people that get in will stay in there for a long long time.
133 221 333 123 111
MacroKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada298 Posts
April 12 2011 00:00 GMT
#3
Good to know ^^ But, why would they keep everyone who is in GM in GM the whole season, even if they are not top 200.. kinda stupid..
Member of the NEX Clan!
brotosterone
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States260 Posts
April 12 2011 00:00 GMT
#4
So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?
Shadowed
Profile Joined August 2010
United States679 Posts
April 12 2011 00:01 GMT
#5
Off the top of my head, it's ~2 bonus points an hour? So it works out to roughly 270 in a week.
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
April 12 2011 00:02 GMT
#6
Yea.. the rules have always seemed kinda iffy to me. The top 200 REAL players won't be in grandmasters due to the drop out conditions imho. You can drop down to diamond MMR and still be in grandmasters as long as you keep playing lol
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12252 Posts
April 12 2011 00:02 GMT
#7
On April 12 2011 09:01 Shadowed wrote:
Off the top of my head, it's ~2 bonus points an hour? So it works out to roughly 270 in a week.


1 per 112 minutes, 90 a week.
Moderator
CrayonKing
Profile Joined August 2010
Cambodia124 Posts
April 12 2011 00:03 GMT
#8
Has this 2 week period been up yet?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 12 2011 00:04 GMT
#9
interesting, first thing i'm doing tomorrow when its announced is play a sc2 game so nobody can pass me :D. Yes the 2 week period ends tomorrow for NA
When I think of something else, something will go here
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12252 Posts
April 12 2011 00:04 GMT
#10
On April 12 2011 09:03 CrayonKing wrote:
Has this 2 week period been up yet?


On SEA and China it has. On the other servers it will happen tomorrow.
Moderator
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
April 12 2011 00:05 GMT
#11
On April 12 2011 08:59 GenesisX wrote:
Ah, can't play till friday... pretty sure I would have gotten in though (http://sc2ranks.com/us/372731/SCGenX) How long does it take for 270 bonus pool to accumulate? I'm guessing the first 200 people that get in will stay in there for a long long time.


Why wouldn't you just log in and surrender immediately just to get your spot?
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Bean54
Profile Joined September 2010
United States85 Posts
April 12 2011 00:06 GMT
#12
On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote:
So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?


I have the same question, please answer excalibur, thanks.
Ledcaveman
Profile Joined March 2011
100 Posts
April 12 2011 00:07 GMT
#13
...and im still bronze ( ._.)
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 12 2011 00:08 GMT
#14
On April 12 2011 09:06 Bean54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote:
So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?


I have the same question, please answer excalibur, thanks.

Its pretty obvious, no you cant,
they wont be removed unless their bonus pool exceeds this
so one could reason, if all of them are active, they'll all stay in
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12252 Posts
April 12 2011 00:09 GMT
#15
On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote:
So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?


If all of the top 200 players who have been preselected all play their games right when the league goes live, they will stay in that league for the entire season regardless of performance, as long as they are able to keep their bonus pool below 270. Basically this is to showcase the top 200 players on the server but the activity requirement is there to keep the league from stagnating.

If it were just the top 200 then the bottom ~70-80ish slots would probably be fluctuating constantly.
Moderator
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
April 12 2011 00:10 GMT
#16
On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote:
So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?



This is true. In theory, any player that is good enough for GM should be able to place himself in these first two weeks - enough time to play a couple games at least - and since seasons should last much shorter than the first season, it shouldn't be hard for this "new top" to get into the GM on the third season.

IIRC, seasons are supposed to last for two or three months each now, but I'm not sure.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Bean54
Profile Joined September 2010
United States85 Posts
April 12 2011 00:10 GMT
#17
On April 12 2011 09:08 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 09:06 Bean54 wrote:
On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote:
So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?


I have the same question, please answer excalibur, thanks.

Its pretty obvious, no you cant,
they wont be removed unless their bonus pool exceeds this
so one could reason, if all of them are active, they'll all stay in


So the top players in the world wouldnt be able to achieve grandmaster? That seems kinda dumb if they can't make it a moving league like the others. Thats basically the equivalent of a 2 week season with like a 3 month lockout period.
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
April 12 2011 00:14 GMT
#18
Well, I think it's safe to assume no one that is that good will let their bonus pool get that big. Once the 200 are decided, I doubt no more than 10-20 will drop out during the season.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
aLt)nirvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Singapore846 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 00:16:33
April 12 2011 00:15 GMT
#19
A first glimpse of the GM league + new patch info (all bug fixes) as it has already been released on SEA. (plz dont direct embed the pic here, the site will die lol)
http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=1168

My first thought - The Grandmaster icon looks way better then the masters icon.

My second thought - Wow even more hurdles for players if they want to get to the top of GM. For e.g if they ever fall out of GM and decide to start playing again, they have to wait a week to get promoted to GM(not sure about this). Then they lose all their points and have to start again climbing again from 200+. Not cool at all the "XP Decay" feels like too big of a obligation/commitment if you wanna maintain GM status.
sc2sea.com - The SEA / ANZ community
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
April 12 2011 00:15 GMT
#20
On April 12 2011 09:05 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 08:59 GenesisX wrote:
Ah, can't play till friday... pretty sure I would have gotten in though (http://sc2ranks.com/us/372731/SCGenX) How long does it take for 270 bonus pool to accumulate? I'm guessing the first 200 people that get in will stay in there for a long long time.


Why wouldn't you just log in and surrender immediately just to get your spot?


:O. Theres an idea... when does it officially come out in NA?
133 221 333 123 111
1 2 3 4 5 35 36 37 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RotterdaM Event
16:15
Rotti's PatchesSC Open #3
RotterdaM765
TKL 250
IndyStarCraft 217
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 765
ByuN 348
TKL 250
IndyStarCraft 217
UpATreeSC 81
Trap 38
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3821
firebathero 117
Dewaltoss 111
Pusan 64
Sea.KH 58
soO 28
Free 14
yabsab 11
Shine 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Dota 2
Fuzer 134
Counter-Strike
fl0m1391
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu342
Other Games
summit1g7899
singsing1664
Beastyqt789
Hui .154
XaKoH 136
ArmadaUGS118
KnowMe90
Trikslyr49
QueenE44
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 67
• Adnapsc2 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 30
• FirePhoenix15
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1734
• TFBlade695
Other Games
• imaqtpie892
• Shiphtur143
Upcoming Events
The PiG Daily
4h 33m
CranKy Ducklings
15h 33m
WardiTV Invitational
16h 33m
Cure vs Zoun
SHIN vs Classic
ByuN vs MaxPax
Percival vs YoungYakov
AI Arena Tournament
22h 33m
OSC
1d 2h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 15h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 16h
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
1d 20h
Spirit vs Mixu
Clem vs TBD
RSL Revival
1d 21h
Serral vs Rogue
BlizzCon
2 days
IdrA vs MC
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs JyJ
Soulkey vs hero
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-10
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.