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Grandmaster is the highest league in the SC2 ladder, consisting of the top 200 players in the region. Grandmaster League goes live 1 week after a ladder season begins.
Eligibility Eligibility is determined over the opening week of a ladder season. Players who have the 200 highest MMR moving averages and who have bonus pools that are less than 90 (1 week's worth) will have spots reserved for them in Grandmaster League. However, you need to win a game after the league goes live in order to be promoted. An important clarification here (noxn asked this question yesterday and I got an answer today): if you have a slot reserved but someone else gets a higher MMR moving average than you before you play your promotion game, your slot will be taken!
Activity Rule Grandmaster players remain in Grandmaster League until the end of the season. If your bonus pool accumulates to 180 (2 weeks' worth), you are automatically removed from Grandmaster League and a new player will take your spot. This is the only way to get removed from this league.
Please keep GM League discussion to this thread. GM League is currently live on all servers.
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Ah, can't play till friday... pretty sure I would have gotten in though (http://sc2ranks.com/us/372731/SCGenX) How long does it take for 270 bonus pool to accumulate? I'm guessing the first 200 people that get in will stay in there for a long long time.
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Good to know ^^ But, why would they keep everyone who is in GM in GM the whole season, even if they are not top 200.. kinda stupid..
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So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?
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Off the top of my head, it's ~2 bonus points an hour? So it works out to roughly 270 in a week.
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Yea.. the rules have always seemed kinda iffy to me. The top 200 REAL players won't be in grandmasters due to the drop out conditions imho. You can drop down to diamond MMR and still be in grandmasters as long as you keep playing lol
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On April 12 2011 09:01 Shadowed wrote: Off the top of my head, it's ~2 bonus points an hour? So it works out to roughly 270 in a week.
1 per 112 minutes, 90 a week.
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Has this 2 week period been up yet?
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interesting, first thing i'm doing tomorrow when its announced is play a sc2 game so nobody can pass me :D. Yes the 2 week period ends tomorrow for NA
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On April 12 2011 09:03 CrayonKing wrote: Has this 2 week period been up yet?
On SEA and China it has. On the other servers it will happen tomorrow.
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On April 12 2011 08:59 GenesisX wrote: Ah, can't play till friday... pretty sure I would have gotten in though (http://sc2ranks.com/us/372731/SCGenX) How long does it take for 270 bonus pool to accumulate? I'm guessing the first 200 people that get in will stay in there for a long long time.
Why wouldn't you just log in and surrender immediately just to get your spot?
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On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote: So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?
I have the same question, please answer excalibur, thanks.
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...and im still bronze ( ._.)
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On April 12 2011 09:06 Bean54 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote: So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week? I have the same question, please answer excalibur, thanks. Its pretty obvious, no you cant, they wont be removed unless their bonus pool exceeds this so one could reason, if all of them are active, they'll all stay in
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On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote: So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?
If all of the top 200 players who have been preselected all play their games right when the league goes live, they will stay in that league for the entire season regardless of performance, as long as they are able to keep their bonus pool below 270. Basically this is to showcase the top 200 players on the server but the activity requirement is there to keep the league from stagnating.
If it were just the top 200 then the bottom ~70-80ish slots would probably be fluctuating constantly.
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On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote: So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?
This is true. In theory, any player that is good enough for GM should be able to place himself in these first two weeks - enough time to play a couple games at least - and since seasons should last much shorter than the first season, it shouldn't be hard for this "new top" to get into the GM on the third season.
IIRC, seasons are supposed to last for two or three months each now, but I'm not sure.
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On April 12 2011 09:08 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 09:06 Bean54 wrote:On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote: So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week? I have the same question, please answer excalibur, thanks. Its pretty obvious, no you cant, they wont be removed unless their bonus pool exceeds this so one could reason, if all of them are active, they'll all stay in
So the top players in the world wouldnt be able to achieve grandmaster? That seems kinda dumb if they can't make it a moving league like the others. Thats basically the equivalent of a 2 week season with like a 3 month lockout period.
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Well, I think it's safe to assume no one that is that good will let their bonus pool get that big. Once the 200 are decided, I doubt no more than 10-20 will drop out during the season.
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A first glimpse of the GM league + new patch info (all bug fixes) as it has already been released on SEA. (plz dont direct embed the pic here, the site will die lol) http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=1168
My first thought - The Grandmaster icon looks way better then the masters icon.
My second thought - Wow even more hurdles for players if they want to get to the top of GM. For e.g if they ever fall out of GM and decide to start playing again, they have to wait a week to get promoted to GM(not sure about this). Then they lose all their points and have to start again climbing again from 200+. Not cool at all the "XP Decay" feels like too big of a obligation/commitment if you wanna maintain GM status.
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On April 12 2011 09:05 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 08:59 GenesisX wrote: Ah, can't play till friday... pretty sure I would have gotten in though (http://sc2ranks.com/us/372731/SCGenX) How long does it take for 270 bonus pool to accumulate? I'm guessing the first 200 people that get in will stay in there for a long long time. Why wouldn't you just log in and surrender immediately just to get your spot?
:O. Theres an idea... when does it officially come out in NA?
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