• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:26
CEST 03:26
KST 10:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview9Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL44Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30
Community News
GSL Ro4 and Finals moved to Sunday June 15th7Weekly Cups (May 27-June 1): ByuN goes back-to-back0EWC 2025 Regional Qualifier Results26Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2)3Weekly Cups (May 19-25): Hindsight is 20/20?0
StarCraft 2
General
Serious Question: Mech Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview CN community: Firefly accused of suspicious activities The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL
Tourneys
$5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $1,200 WardiTV June (June 4th-June 15th) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Battle.net is not working
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL19] Grand Finals
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Mechabellum Monster Hunter Wilds
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Maru Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Research study on team perfo…
TrAiDoS
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 14263 users

Grandmaster League Info Thread

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 35 36 37 Next All
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 15:20:46
April 11 2011 23:56 GMT
#1
Grandmaster is the highest league in the SC2 ladder, consisting of the top 200 players in the region. Grandmaster League goes live 1 week after a ladder season begins.

Eligibility
Eligibility is determined over the opening week of a ladder season. Players who have the 200 highest MMR moving averages and who have bonus pools that are less than 90 (1 week's worth) will have spots reserved for them in Grandmaster League. However, you need to win a game after the league goes live in order to be promoted. An important clarification here (noxn asked this question yesterday and I got an answer today): if you have a slot reserved but someone else gets a higher MMR moving average than you before you play your promotion game, your slot will be taken!

Activity Rule
Grandmaster players remain in Grandmaster League until the end of the season. If your bonus pool accumulates to 180 (2 weeks' worth), you are automatically removed from Grandmaster League and a new player will take your spot. This is the only way to get removed from this league.

Please keep GM League discussion to this thread. GM League is currently live on all servers.
Moderator
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
April 11 2011 23:59 GMT
#2
Ah, can't play till friday... pretty sure I would have gotten in though (http://sc2ranks.com/us/372731/SCGenX) How long does it take for 270 bonus pool to accumulate? I'm guessing the first 200 people that get in will stay in there for a long long time.
133 221 333 123 111
MacroKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada298 Posts
April 12 2011 00:00 GMT
#3
Good to know ^^ But, why would they keep everyone who is in GM in GM the whole season, even if they are not top 200.. kinda stupid..
Member of the NEX Clan!
brotosterone
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States260 Posts
April 12 2011 00:00 GMT
#4
So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?
Shadowed
Profile Joined August 2010
United States679 Posts
April 12 2011 00:01 GMT
#5
Off the top of my head, it's ~2 bonus points an hour? So it works out to roughly 270 in a week.
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
April 12 2011 00:02 GMT
#6
Yea.. the rules have always seemed kinda iffy to me. The top 200 REAL players won't be in grandmasters due to the drop out conditions imho. You can drop down to diamond MMR and still be in grandmasters as long as you keep playing lol
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
April 12 2011 00:02 GMT
#7
On April 12 2011 09:01 Shadowed wrote:
Off the top of my head, it's ~2 bonus points an hour? So it works out to roughly 270 in a week.


1 per 112 minutes, 90 a week.
Moderator
CrayonKing
Profile Joined August 2010
Cambodia124 Posts
April 12 2011 00:03 GMT
#8
Has this 2 week period been up yet?
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 12 2011 00:04 GMT
#9
interesting, first thing i'm doing tomorrow when its announced is play a sc2 game so nobody can pass me :D. Yes the 2 week period ends tomorrow for NA
When I think of something else, something will go here
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
April 12 2011 00:04 GMT
#10
On April 12 2011 09:03 CrayonKing wrote:
Has this 2 week period been up yet?


On SEA and China it has. On the other servers it will happen tomorrow.
Moderator
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
April 12 2011 00:05 GMT
#11
On April 12 2011 08:59 GenesisX wrote:
Ah, can't play till friday... pretty sure I would have gotten in though (http://sc2ranks.com/us/372731/SCGenX) How long does it take for 270 bonus pool to accumulate? I'm guessing the first 200 people that get in will stay in there for a long long time.


Why wouldn't you just log in and surrender immediately just to get your spot?
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Bean54
Profile Joined September 2010
United States85 Posts
April 12 2011 00:06 GMT
#12
On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote:
So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?


I have the same question, please answer excalibur, thanks.
Ledcaveman
Profile Joined March 2011
100 Posts
April 12 2011 00:07 GMT
#13
...and im still bronze ( ._.)
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17920 Posts
April 12 2011 00:08 GMT
#14
On April 12 2011 09:06 Bean54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote:
So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?


I have the same question, please answer excalibur, thanks.

Its pretty obvious, no you cant,
they wont be removed unless their bonus pool exceeds this
so one could reason, if all of them are active, they'll all stay in
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
April 12 2011 00:09 GMT
#15
On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote:
So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?


If all of the top 200 players who have been preselected all play their games right when the league goes live, they will stay in that league for the entire season regardless of performance, as long as they are able to keep their bonus pool below 270. Basically this is to showcase the top 200 players on the server but the activity requirement is there to keep the league from stagnating.

If it were just the top 200 then the bottom ~70-80ish slots would probably be fluctuating constantly.
Moderator
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
April 12 2011 00:10 GMT
#16
On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote:
So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?



This is true. In theory, any player that is good enough for GM should be able to place himself in these first two weeks - enough time to play a couple games at least - and since seasons should last much shorter than the first season, it shouldn't be hard for this "new top" to get into the GM on the third season.

IIRC, seasons are supposed to last for two or three months each now, but I'm not sure.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Bean54
Profile Joined September 2010
United States85 Posts
April 12 2011 00:10 GMT
#17
On April 12 2011 09:08 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 09:06 Bean54 wrote:
On April 12 2011 09:00 brotosterone wrote:
So if you don't get in on the first two weeks, and all players stay active, you can't get into GM even if you become #1 in NA in the third week?


I have the same question, please answer excalibur, thanks.

Its pretty obvious, no you cant,
they wont be removed unless their bonus pool exceeds this
so one could reason, if all of them are active, they'll all stay in


So the top players in the world wouldnt be able to achieve grandmaster? That seems kinda dumb if they can't make it a moving league like the others. Thats basically the equivalent of a 2 week season with like a 3 month lockout period.
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
April 12 2011 00:14 GMT
#18
Well, I think it's safe to assume no one that is that good will let their bonus pool get that big. Once the 200 are decided, I doubt no more than 10-20 will drop out during the season.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
aLt)nirvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Singapore846 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 00:16:33
April 12 2011 00:15 GMT
#19
A first glimpse of the GM league + new patch info (all bug fixes) as it has already been released on SEA. (plz dont direct embed the pic here, the site will die lol)
http://www.sc2sea.com/showthread.php?t=1168

My first thought - The Grandmaster icon looks way better then the masters icon.

My second thought - Wow even more hurdles for players if they want to get to the top of GM. For e.g if they ever fall out of GM and decide to start playing again, they have to wait a week to get promoted to GM(not sure about this). Then they lose all their points and have to start again climbing again from 200+. Not cool at all the "XP Decay" feels like too big of a obligation/commitment if you wanna maintain GM status.
sc2sea.com - The SEA / ANZ community
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
April 12 2011 00:15 GMT
#20
On April 12 2011 09:05 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 08:59 GenesisX wrote:
Ah, can't play till friday... pretty sure I would have gotten in though (http://sc2ranks.com/us/372731/SCGenX) How long does it take for 270 bonus pool to accumulate? I'm guessing the first 200 people that get in will stay in there for a long long time.


Why wouldn't you just log in and surrender immediately just to get your spot?


:O. Theres an idea... when does it officially come out in NA?
133 221 333 123 111
1 2 3 4 5 35 36 37 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#34
PiGStarcraft540
CranKy Ducklings213
SteadfastSC122
rockletztv 48
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft540
RuFF_SC2 141
SteadfastSC 122
Livibee 104
Nina 99
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 920
Icarus 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever744
NeuroSwarm80
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
Fnx 2614
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox474
C9.Mang0240
PPMD199
Other Games
summit1g8324
shahzam1349
Day[9].tv1154
ViBE237
Maynarde228
Trikslyr55
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1343
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 102
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki15
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift5989
Other Games
• Day9tv1154
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Qualifier
9h 34m
Bellum Gens Elite
10h 34m
OSC
14h 34m
The PondCast
1d 8h
Bellum Gens Elite
1d 9h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
OSC
1d 22h
Bellum Gens Elite
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
Bellum Gens Elite
3 days
Fire Grow Cup
3 days
CSO Contender
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
SOOP
4 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
AllThingsProtoss
4 days
Fire Grow Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
2025 GSL S2
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.