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So I think it's time we actually had a talk about this before we start harassing moderators. Plexa did an awesome job as the moderator on our forum getting people in on a regular basis, etc. But now that he is gone we have 30+ people backed up in the sign up thread and I have been PMing Admin's for around 5 days and the only person who ever responded was ITW, which told me he can't actually do anything and I needed to PM riptide.
I understand that the forum admins/mods have other shit to do, which is why I feel we need our own moderator. Currently insane is about to end and XXXVIII still has slots and people trying to get access so that they may sign up, but at this rate it's not going to happen in a timely fashion.
I was going to say we should nominate people and see who the majority of us want to push to become the moderator. But that wouldn't be fair to have a vote and not just look at what someone has done. So I want to push Qatol to be our Moderator. I just want some feedback before we make a post in website feedback.
THOUGHTS?
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United States22154 Posts
Qatol deserves to be a mod, I fully endorse this campaign. Who do we have to harass...I mean nicely ask... to get this to happen?
It would be great to have him be the mod with full powers in name as well as fact (I mean his practically the mod here anyway ^_^)
EDIT: We obviously need a slogan for Qatol's campaign for mayor mod
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Qatol doesn't have a say in the matter, he's going to be the one elected lol. He's even got his Mod Campaign poster made:
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/sRDPA.png)
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Posting this in here from Misc. Thread for why I think we need a mod that's actually involved in the Mafia Forum:
On April 04 2011 16:52 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2011 10:10 chaoser wrote:
See, RoL's situation is why we need an actual fulltime mod for the subforum that knows what's up I don't think one would have helped in that situation unless they happened to be online when RoL made those requests. ITW knew about the situation, he just wasn't around and the mods saw all of the smurf accounts and jumped to conclusions. It could have happened just as easily with a dedicated mafia forum moderator. For example, if I had been a staff member during that time (which I only mention because of earlier suggestions in this thread), I wouldn't have noticed the situation until after RoL got banned. And then RoL still would have needed an admin to step in and sort everything out. QuickStriker's passive agressive semi-martyrdom is probably a better example of why it might be nice to have a moderator read this forum more often.
Well what would happen is that RoL/Random person #1 would tell you he/she wants to start a game with smurf accounts. You would then open up a thread in the MiR Forum explaining what will be happening (RoL/#1 making smurf accounts for a game). After leaving it open for like 2 or 3 days I'm pretty sure most of the mods will have seen it and then at that time you can tell RoL/#1 it's ok for him to start doing stuff and that way problems will be less likely to occur.
Also, this makes it so that the mods can't just be like "You're a dumbass, communicate more" when clearly RoL PMed ITW about it already and also posted a post in the sign up thread about it so he did communicate. Not to mention the whole BM/QS situation could have been a bit less messy. Also, since we just opened up signups and a flood of newbies will be coming in, I feel like we need some sort of actual mod to deal with the unforeseeable problems that might arise.
Also I'm sure sometimes someone will do something stupid outside the mafia forum that gets them temp banned and then they mess up a game. I remember someone did it once as Red Mafia so that he could be inactive for a few days and divert heat off of himself. The mod would make them unbanned on the mafia forums itself can't they? Just like how people can be banned from just one section of the site?
At the end of the day I'd rather have someone who actually interacts with the people in the subforum moderating everything involving it than someone sent from above.
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Also if we ARE going to write something in the feedback section, I don't think RoL should be the one starting it lol. Get Ver or BC to do it.
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haven't we talked about this already? I thought qatol didn't really desire a mod position.
Qatol, as our abusive father who only wants the best for us, what do you think about having the ability to grant/deny mafia forum privileges? I've noticed that you generally want to maintain the banlist without being the "final say" on controversies... if you got an icon, would you be willing to be the final say? My sense is that is exactly what you want to avoid.
There's no doubt in my mind that Qatol is qualified, it's just a question of whether that's what he wants and what TL Mafia actually needs. In fact, even with plexa around the mafia /in list thread often had a sizable queue; ITW will eventually take care of it; mafia xxxviii is almost full and already has a plethora of newer players. On the other hand, it would be damn nice to take care of mafia perm bans and thread privileges in-house...
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On April 07 2011 01:57 aidnai wrote:
haven't we talked about this already? I thought qatol didn't really desire a mod position.
Qatol, as our abusive father who only wants the best for us, what do you think about having the ability to grant/deny mafia forum privileges? I've noticed that you generally want to maintain the banlist without being the "final say" on controversies... if you got an icon, would you be willing to be the final say? My sense is that is exactly what you want to avoid.
There's no doubt in my mind that Qatol is qualified, it's just a question of whether that's what he wants and what TL Mafia actually needs. In fact, even with plexa around the mafia /in list thread often had a sizable queue; ITW will eventually take care of it; mafia xxxviii is almost full and already has a plethora of newer players. On the other hand, it would be damn nice to take care of mafia perm bans and thread privileges in-house...
I dont think we need to consider what Qatol wants, we will just foist the modship upon him! 
Seriously now though, Qatol even as a mod can take into account everyones opinions as he often does in the ban thread, its just a case of being the arbiter of such decisions, which he practically already is. Addressing your second point, I *know* that with Qatol as a mod he would take care of the people requesting access regularly, and while XXXVIII is full theres no reason to deny all these new people admittance/delay their entrance (hell if we get a flood of 8-9 of them I'll host a mini to keep them entertained or something). Basically with Qatol as a mod we would have someone who we know understands what goes on here, and is on our side in the mod's camp.
Qatol gets shit done.
##Elect Qatol
(the lack of U in his name is driving me MAD)
EDIT: (I've used this button TWICE on the mafia forums! O.O) I dont think it would give Qatol more work if he became a mod, but he (and anyone else) can feel free to disagree with my assessment
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kitaman27
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The fact that not a single person that saw BrownBear's advertisement in the Sports & Games Forums was able to join the game without already having forum permission kind of defeated the purpose of advertising to begin with. I would certainly trust any judgment related decisions Qatol would make in regards to the mafia forums, but of course if he prefers not to acquire any extra work or responsibilities then that is definitely understandable.
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Qatol ez
or promote flamewheel to mod imo
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already talked to hot_bid about getting a mod in here.
long story short its not gonna happen anytime soon.
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On April 07 2011 02:57 Coagulation wrote:
already talked to hot_bid about getting a mod in here.
long story short its not gonna happen anytime soon.
=/ what's the reasoning for it?
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On April 07 2011 02:57 Coagulation wrote:
already talked to hot_bid about getting a mod in here.
long story short its not gonna happen anytime soon.
We are the mafia forums, we will argue them to death! TL Mafia fighting!
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basically he said if we have any problems i can report to him directly anytime he will take care of it personally.
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what a bullshit reason...clearly there are time sensitive things that we can't wait around for hot_bid to take care of when he gets around to it. The whole advertising for XXXVIII and yet not one of the new people requesting access was able to sign up for XXXVIII clearly shows we need someone inhouse. RoL's experimental game got delayed 3-4 days because of the confusion of mods not paying attention and then they blame RoL for the mess up. What's he suppose to do? PM every single mod that he was making smurfs for a mafia game?
it's up to Qatol I guess, if he's willing to be mafia mod I'm sure we'd all stand behind him
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Be not afraid of modness: some are born mods, some achieve modness and some have modness thrust upon them!
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Here I drafted an appeal to the TL Forums to get Qatol modded
+ Show Spoiler +People of Team Liquid, we the members of the TL Mafia sub forum bring before you today a petition!
For many years has the TL Mafia sub-forum withered away, alone and deserted by those who should protect us. Only after much difficulty and struggle were we able to summon a moderator to aid us against the internal forces that oppressed and abated us, yet after their aid they once again left, leaving us despondent,
When one of ours was required to bring several smurfs into our homestead for the purpose of a great and glorious task, he requested permission from the mods and received it, yet because of a lack of communication, other mods banned him and put the game on indefinite hold. Had we, the mafia forums, had one of our own amongst the ranks of the all mighty ones we might have been able to prevent such a terrible accident, one that caused much suffering and pain to all the involved.
Of late our staunchest ally in the terrifying regions of the outer forums, Plexa, left us forever, and now it is impossible for us to allow people into the greatness of the Mafia forum without much dalliance. Despite our calls for others to join us and the request of some people to be allowed to visit us, the mods dallied and have so far not seen it in their interest to allow these people into the embrace of the mafia forums.
To regulate and controls we, the mafia forums have requested that Qatol, perhaps the greatest of the mafiates be given power much like the mods, so that he could defend our interests against internal and external threats. So that he could open the gates that allow those who desire access to enter and see the greatness of the Mafia forum. So that terrible, terrible accidents such as what transpired with RebirthOfLegend and the miscomunication with the great ones could be prevented.
Will the mods allow this, or will they continue to let us suffer and wither, as if we were not their brothers? This situation cannot be allowed to persist! Make Qatol a mod!
(I'm bored in lecture, sorry for the spam )
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Yup Qatol for sure. There are enough of us that we should be able to demand a mod. We're the most organized subforum and we've been operating for a while. Everytime this gets brought up the mods just say "PM us if you need anything" but this clearly doesn't work as recent events have shown.
Qatol is perfect for this.
I have a lot more reasons why we need a mod and why Qatol is perfect for it but I'm on my phone so I'll post more when I get home.
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On April 07 2011 01:51 chaoser wrote:
Also if we ARE going to write something in the feedback section, I don't think RoL should be the one starting it lol. Get Ver or BC to do it.
Have Ver or BC write it and I'll post it for my 1500 post lol (Id credit them ofc).
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On April 07 2011 01:51 chaoser wrote:
Also if we ARE going to write something in the feedback section, I don't think RoL should be the one starting it lol. Get Ver or BC to do it.
lol I thought of this already. I was going to make BC write it.
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