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NCI admits cannabinoids are anti-tumor and anti-cancer

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dANiELcanuck
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada217 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 23:14:27
April 02 2011 22:16 GMT
#1
Cannabinoids are a group of 21 carbon terpenophenolic compounds produced uniquely by Cannabis sativa and Cannabis indica species.[1,2] These plant-derived compounds may be referred to as phytocannabinoids. Although delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is the primary psychoactive ingredient, other known compounds with biologic activity are cannabinol, cannabidiol, cannabichromene, cannabigerol, tetrahydrocannabivirin, and delta-8-THC. Cannabidiol, in particular, is thought to have significant analgesic and anti-inflammatory activity without the psychoactive effect (high) of delta-9-THC.

Antitumor Effects

One study in mice and rats suggested that cannabinoids may have a protective effect against the development of certain types of tumors. [3] During this 2-year study, groups of mice and rats were given various doses of THC by gavage. A dose-related decrease in the incidence of hepatic adenoma tumors and hepatocellular carcinoma was observed in the mice. Decreased incidences of benign tumors (polyps and adenomas) in other organs (mammary gland, uterus, pituitary, testis, and pancreas) were also noted in the rats. In another study, delta-9-THC, delta-8-THC, and cannabinol were found to inhibit the growth of Lewis lung adenocarcinoma cells in vitro and in vivo .[4] In addition, other tumors have been shown to be sensitive to cannabinoid-induced growth inhibition.[5-8]


Whole article can be found below.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4


A man from my Province was giving people cannabis extract for free as a medicine and cure for lots of ailments for years, cancer being one of them. He's now hiding out in Europe evading charges. How much proof do people need?

At the very least, this leaves the Feds in a tough spot with marijuana as a Schedule 1 narcotic/drug.

** I don't want this thread to become a flame war between anti-cannabis activists and "stoners". I just want to share the information with you. Let's not get sick.

edit: It should also be noted that the medicinal effects are through ingestion or topical application. When you smoke cannabis you lose nearly all medicinal qualities of the plant.

I think it should be noted that the (I believe it was)DEA gave rights to the big pharmaceutical companies to use chemicals derived from cannabis. The Feds have also cracked down on a lot of "legal and approved" dispensaries in California and Montana recently. This would lead me to believe it's just about the money, and the government doesn't want you to grow your own natural medicine when they can "force" you to buy it at ridiculous prices from a pharmacy.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 02 2011 22:18 GMT
#2
What are the side effects of cannabis?
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Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
April 02 2011 22:19 GMT
#3
On April 03 2011 07:18 Sufficiency wrote:
What are the side effects of cannabis?


munchies!!!
minimalistic
Profile Joined August 2010
Hungary157 Posts
April 02 2011 22:20 GMT
#4
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MetalMarine
Profile Joined June 2007
United States1559 Posts
April 02 2011 22:20 GMT
#5
On April 03 2011 07:18 Sufficiency wrote:
What are the side effects of cannabis?


Being wayyyyyy too chill
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
April 02 2011 22:22 GMT
#6
Cannabis could cure everything known to man and people would still not want to see it legalized.

This report once agains shows that the stuff isn't just harmless, it's even beneficial. The stigma however is just too great, an entire generation has been brought up on the notion that weed makes you want to kill your family.

Atleast it's semi-legal in my country, that still leaves it up in the air and very easy to ban. I don't even use the stuff and i still want to see police do real police work rather then going after people that smoke weed whilst child-porn cases are left on the shelves due to understaffing.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 02 2011 22:22 GMT
#7
This though doesn't grant everyone some free pass to use cannabis now (for pleasure)without any form of moral/legal trouble. People who use cannabis regularly don't use it as 'medicine' but as a drug. And there is no need to take a cure if you don't get sick in the first place ( on the contrary to popular belief, almost every case of cancer could have been prohibited easily ). I just think that people will use this as an excuse for using cannabis.
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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
April 02 2011 22:22 GMT
#8
On April 03 2011 07:18 Sufficiency wrote:
What are the side effects of cannabis?


Loving life is a very common side effect.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Silmakuoppaanikinko
Profile Joined November 2010
799 Posts
April 02 2011 22:23 GMT
#9
Oh silly you, assuming that lawmakers base their ideas on ratio and sound logic instead of some moral idea they purely acquired by imprinting of their parents...

Reminds me of an interesting discussion I had lately with a friend of mum's, she's an adviser to the government here and she said that sometimes she feels with some politicians that her position is useless, they come in ask for advice on how to proceed, but it's clear they have made their mind up from the start and aren't willing to listen to experts on that field who may think otherwise and think that it's not a good idea and just won't work.

I wonder though, if people really believe in something to the extend they are willing to enter politics about it, maybe they believe in it a little too much. The wise man has no beliefs and no political affiliation, he chooses how to proceed on an issue-per-issue basis and on the available evidence at that point.

That said, it's impossible to deny that some stuff like alcohol or tobacco is way worse. And no, I don't use, I don't drink, I don't smoke, my hardest drugs are coffee and sugar, and yes, there is no reason to not say that sugar and coffee aren't recreational drugs.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 02 2011 22:24 GMT
#10
i dont really care if its legalized or not (and anyway i believe its already legalized for medical purposes in my state),
but i dont see any "admission" here, just a link to a section on a website.
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bRuTaL!!
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland588 Posts
April 02 2011 22:26 GMT
#11
What about schizophrenia? If its cancer your concerned about, eat "super" foods...
Tasteless: "What was it Hans Solo was frozen in? Kryptonite?" Artosis: "Lol, no. Thats the stuff that hurts Batman."
Silmakuoppaanikinko
Profile Joined November 2010
799 Posts
April 02 2011 22:26 GMT
#12
On April 03 2011 07:22 solidbebe wrote:
This though doesn't grant everyone some free pass to use cannabis now (for pleasure)without any form of moral/legal trouble. People who use cannabis regularly don't use it as 'medicine' but as a drug. And there is no need to take a cure if you don't get sick in the first place ( on the contrary to popular belief, almost every case of cancer could have been prohibited easily ). I just think that people will use this as an excuse for using cannabis.
How about people who drink coffee? People who use alcohol? People who eat sugar? People who visit dating agencies with the purpose to fall in love.

All of these are drugs that are addictive and alter one's perception of reality. The latter possibly one of the worst, have you ever seen how distorted one's perception of reality (the other person) is when he or she is in love? And how drastic the effects of kicking off from it can be? How deluded some people can become by it?

Ban love?

Drugs are everywhere, in every food, when we play sports, when we play StarCraft, when we drink coffee, when we have sex, it's everywhere. So ehh, better not eat any more chocolate any more, we all know it's basically a mild drug that's addictive.
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Silmakuoppaanikinko
Profile Joined November 2010
799 Posts
April 02 2011 22:27 GMT
#13
On April 03 2011 07:26 bRuTaL!! wrote:
What about schizophrenia? If its cancer your concerned about, eat "super" foods...
I believe that MJ has been linked to triggering a psychosis or paranoid episodes in people who are sensitive for it, that's also hard to deny.
Workers and town centres are the ultimate counter to turtles.
chonkyfire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States451 Posts
April 02 2011 22:28 GMT
#14
On April 03 2011 07:26 bRuTaL!! wrote:
What about schizophrenia?



what about it?
Just when I thought that I saw I ghost, I realized that it was the endo smoke
chonkyfire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States451 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 22:31:12
April 02 2011 22:30 GMT
#15
On April 03 2011 07:27 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote:
that MJ has been linked to triggering a psychosis or paranoid episodes in people who are sensitive for it, that's also hard to deny.



marijuana in high doses does cause acute psychosis along with numerous other drugs
Just when I thought that I saw I ghost, I realized that it was the endo smoke
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
April 02 2011 22:46 GMT
#16
On April 03 2011 07:22 zalz wrote:
Cannabis could cure everything known to man and people would still not want to see it legalized.

This report once agains shows that the stuff isn't just harmless, it's even beneficial. The stigma however is just too great, an entire generation has been brought up on the notion that weed makes you want to kill your family.

Atleast it's semi-legal in my country, that still leaves it up in the air and very easy to ban. I don't even use the stuff and i still want to see police do real police work rather then going after people that smoke weed whilst child-porn cases are left on the shelves due to understaffing.

You're completely out of your mind if you think child-porn cases are under-enforced. In the grand scheme of societal harm, they are likely the most disproportionately high-priority crimes in any system of law. Think of all the meth labs, weed plantations, work camps and slave labor in the world and then stop to think about the people that put together child porn to make money. Oh wait, you can't? That's right, nobody makes money from producing child porn and no actual children are really at risk as we speak. It's illegal and stigmatized so much that people don't wanna touch or be associated with it so it's a problem that will never grow.

Domestic abuse and sexual predators are a real problem make no mistake about that but there is no child porn industry in the same sense as drugs constitute an industry. Largely an imaginary evil.
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Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 22:54:54
April 02 2011 22:51 GMT
#17
On April 03 2011 07:46 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 07:22 zalz wrote:
Cannabis could cure everything known to man and people would still not want to see it legalized.

This report once agains shows that the stuff isn't just harmless, it's even beneficial. The stigma however is just too great, an entire generation has been brought up on the notion that weed makes you want to kill your family.

Atleast it's semi-legal in my country, that still leaves it up in the air and very easy to ban. I don't even use the stuff and i still want to see police do real police work rather then going after people that smoke weed whilst child-porn cases are left on the shelves due to understaffing.

You're completely out of your mind if you think child-porn cases are under-enforced. In the grand scheme of societal harm, they are likely the most disproportionately high-priority crimes in any system of law. Think of all the meth labs, weed plantations, work camps and slave labor in the world and then stop to think about the people that put together child porn to make money. Oh wait, you can't? That's right, nobody makes money from producing child porn and no actual children are really at risk as we speak. It's illegal and stigmatized so much that people don't wanna touch or be associated with it so it's a problem that will never grow.

Domestic abuse and sexual predators are a real problem make no mistake about that but there is no child porn industry in the same sense as drugs constitute an industry. Largely an imaginary evil.


This is more true in the United States than it is in the rest of the world. Sex traffickers care little about whether their girls are 18 or not.

On topic: Just FYI any possible anti-cancer properties of a few cannabinoids don't exactly counteract the cancer-causing effects of burning organic matter and inhaling it, which is something a few posts in this thread so far don't seem to understand.
Almin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States583 Posts
April 02 2011 22:52 GMT
#18
On April 03 2011 07:30 chonkyfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 07:27 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote:
that MJ has been linked to triggering a psychosis or paranoid episodes in people who are sensitive for it, that's also hard to deny.



marijuana in high doses does cause acute psychosis along with numerous other drugs


The % of getting dementia later in life from marijuana has proven in studies to be very very low, like 1-2% higher then a person who never smoked pot, might be just a coincidence since the % is so small.
Silmakuoppaanikinko
Profile Joined November 2010
799 Posts
April 02 2011 22:53 GMT
#19
On April 03 2011 07:30 chonkyfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 07:27 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote:
that MJ has been linked to triggering a psychosis or paranoid episodes in people who are sensitive for it, that's also hard to deny.

marijuana in high doses does cause acute psychosis along with numerous other drugs
It hardly 'causes' 'acute' psychosis, it has been indicated to trigger an episode with people who are already sensitive to it.

But basically, if you have a history of paranoia and/or depression, it's best to stay away from MJ, cocaine, or Ritalin and similar stuff.

Also, child porn is a huge moral panic nowadays, people are currently seriously in legal troubles for making 'child porn', as in, pictures of their own children of 4 playing naked in the garden...
Workers and town centres are the ultimate counter to turtles.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
April 02 2011 22:55 GMT
#20
they really do need to legalize marijuana though, its getting ridiculous how much money is spent to control something that isn't being controlled

that said if you do use any drug you are likely a total moron and I hope you OD at some point in your life off being depressed that you were too stoned to do anything in your life

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