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intrigue
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
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ahx
Canada132 Posts
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chonkyfire
United States451 Posts
On April 03 2011 07:52 Almin wrote: The % of getting dementia later in life from marijuana has proven in studies to be very very low, like 1-2% higher then a person who never smoked pot, might be just a coincidence since the % is so small. I'm not really sure why you're bringing up dementia, we were talking about psychosis psychosis is when someone is suffering from 1 of 3 symptoms 1. hallucinations 2. delusions 3. thought disorder The average recreational dose of marijuana isn't going to cause any of these three (although it could in a small % of people), in very high doses it can cause hallucinations, thought disorder and arguably delusions. It's acute though, not chronic. That's the main point here. | ||
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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
On April 03 2011 07:55 Teivospy wrote: they really do need to legalize marijuana though, its getting ridiculous how much money is spent to control something that isn't being controlled that said if you do use any drug you are likely a total moron and I hope you OD at some point in your life off being depressed that you were too stoned to do anything in your life lol, why don't you take the advice expressed in your signature? | ||
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chonkyfire
United States451 Posts
On April 03 2011 07:53 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote: It hardly 'causes' 'acute' psychosis, it has been indicated to trigger an episode with people who are already sensitive to it. But basically, if you have a history of paranoia and/or depression, it's best to stay away from MJ, cocaine, or Ritalin and similar stuff. Also, child porn is a huge moral panic nowadays, people are currently seriously in legal troubles for making 'child porn', as in, pictures of their own children of 4 playing naked in the garden... yeah it hardly causes it, you're right, doesn't mean it can't cause it. go eat 5 grams of weed and find out for yourself. Trust me, I know from experience it can cause acute psychosis On April 03 2011 07:53 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote: But basically, if you have a history of paranoia and/or depression, it's best to stay away from MJ, cocaine, or Ritalin and similar stuff. If you have any mental illness you should never use stimulates period, and you should only use psych medicine under the care of a medical doctor | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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chonkyfire
United States451 Posts
On April 03 2011 07:59 Logros wrote: but I just think everyone who does it is an idiot. As long as you think everyone who drinks in excess (more than 2 drinks) is an idiot also I respect your opinion. | ||
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dANiELcanuck
Canada217 Posts
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mowglie
United States74 Posts
On April 03 2011 07:46 Fyodor wrote: You're completely out of your mind if you think child-porn cases are under-enforced. In the grand scheme of societal harm, they are likely the most disproportionately high-priority crimes in any system of law. Think of all the meth labs, weed plantations, work camps and slave labor in the world and then stop to think about the people that put together child porn to make money. Oh wait, you can't? That's right, nobody makes money from producing child porn and no actual children are really at risk as we speak. It's illegal and stigmatized so much that people don't wanna touch or be associated with it so it's a problem that will never grow. Domestic abuse and sexual predators are a real problem make no mistake about that but there is no child porn industry in the same sense as drugs constitute an industry. Largely an imaginary evil. I don't know anything about child pornography industry, but I do know that child prostitution is a real and serious problem in S.E Asia and some European countries as well. That being said, claiming that "nobody makes money from producing child porn and no actual children are really at risk" is a monumental and arrogant claim. | ||
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preCurser
United States78 Posts
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
Is this bad? I think not. Maybe it's just cause I've smoked multiple times a day for the past 4 or 5 years, but I'm perfectly sane. People see the word psychosis and think "oh weed makes you crazy" no, it just makes it a little more pretty when you close your eyes. I also cannot think as well when I am sober, since too much fluff gets in the way. Soooooo many people have such a warped idea of what weed does to you....for most people there is barely an effect. But with so many big words about what it causes getting thrown around, along with a great deal of age old misconceptions based on old propaganda.....it's easy for people to think things to be true, when in fact they are nothing near true. Anybody ever hear the "marijuana kills your braincells!" line? Wanna know how that study was conducted? They took one of the smaller breeds of monkeys, put gas masks on em, and pumped pure burnt cannabis(no oxygen or breaks) for 5 minutes into the lungs of the monkeys. It doesn't take a smart person to know that no air for 5 minutes, along with a great deal of smoke, would suffocate the poor monkey, and guess what a lack of oxygen does to your brain? YUP YUP brain cells die. Correlation=causation all the time no matter what so of course, weed kills brain cells. God dammit I hate people that believe shit like that. | ||
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Silmakuoppaanikinko
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On April 03 2011 07:57 chonkyfire wrote: People who believe in ... horoscopes..? People who believe that zero tolerance policies actually help?I'm not really sure why you're bringing up dementia, we were talking about psychosis psychosis is when someone is suffering from 1 of 3 symptoms 1. hallucinations 2. delusions 3. thought disorder The average recreational dose of marijuana isn't going to cause any of these three (although it could in a small % of people), in very high doses it can cause hallucinations, thought disorder and arguably delusions. It's acute though, not chronic. That's the main point here. The point about this 'psychosis' is that what is a delusion is so vague, who's going to decide what is true and what isn't? You can just as well argue that having faith in psychiatry is a delusion as from a purely formal perspective it's a pseudoscience. On April 03 2011 07:59 chonkyfire wrote: Experience isn't evidence. I'm sure it can cause it with me too, because I'm sensitive to this stuff, I've had various psychotic phases in my life and suffer from a unipolar depression.yeah it hardly causes it, you're right, doesn't mean it can't cause it. go eat 5 grams of weed and find out for yourself. Trust me, I know from experience it can cause acute psychosis The point is that this isn't 'causing' it as much as just bringing to the surface something that is already there. It hasn't been shown to induce psychosis into people that aren't already at risk just yet. If you have any mental illness you should never use stimulates period, and you should only use psych medicine under the care of a medical doctor | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
A lot of jobs only exist because cannabis is illegal. The fact that those jobs shouldn't exist and cannabis should be legal isn't really considered. | ||
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chonkyfire
United States451 Posts
On April 03 2011 08:00 Klogon wrote: The title is absolutely misleading... it talks about mice and benign tumors in the study for the most part. Taking it further seems a stretch. Cancer was mentioned only once in the article, and it was 1) speculation that has lead to a hypothesis and 2) a specific type of cancer (and probably in the mice). http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2673842/?tool=pmcentrez http://mct.aacrjournals.org/content/6/11/2921.long This stuff isn't really news... | ||
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RandomAccount#122857
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KillyKyll
United States267 Posts
On April 03 2011 08:08 Kaonis wrote: To the stoners: Do you -really- want to see marijuana legalized? Think about it: once it is, the government will have to regulate it. And tax it. And a company will come along to distribute it. And they'll decide how much they charge for it. Which will be a lot. And anyone caught with their own will be considered a thief. Not that I'm in super support or anything, as I've never gone near the stuff, but isn't that what happened to Tabacoo/Cigs (not that they were ever illegal) and I think people who smoke that are glad it's at least legal. | ||
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On April 03 2011 08:00 Klogon wrote: The title is absolutely misleading... it talks about mice and benign tumors in the study for the most part. Taking it further seems a stretch. Cancer was mentioned only once in the article, and it was 1) speculation that has lead to a hypothesis and 2) a specific type of cancer (and probably in the mice). isnt it pretty much well known that cannabis can help against cancer and is overall something that can help in many sickness situations? its the most amazing plant we have on earth (cheap,grows like hell,food,fiber,fuel, medical use, a nice drug with in comparison small sideeffects and much more). so sad that some financial bullshit stuff from 80 years ago still keeps it down... | ||
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
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