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Ilfirin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States102 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 23:48:10
February 17 2011 23:42 GMT
#1
I didn't see a thread on this one, and thought I would put this up:

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/02/201121716917273192.html

If you can see the twitter feeds on that, people are saying their death toll is already above Tunisia's. Apparently protesters are being shot by snipers and fighting back with rocks.

Edit: from twitter accounts, it seems like Libya's govt brought in Bayda (not entirely sure what that means) mercenaries to attack protestors, but in some towns the protestors have driven the mercs out. They're saying in some places 50%+ of the population is out protesting.
Kalpman
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 00:05:05
February 18 2011 00:00 GMT
#2
"Day of rage". That sounds like yesterday when I tried to ladder.

This sure got violent quickly though, why would they put out snipers if the protests begun peacefully?

He also said that the government had released 30 people from jail, paying and arming them to fight people in the street.


What the fuck?

Edit: I guess the protests never really were peaceful. But wow. Those people on the streets are BRAVE.
I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than you!
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
February 18 2011 00:07 GMT
#3
Gaddafi is a serious nut case. I'm neither surprised that there are tons of people who hate him nor that he resorts to violence to stop protestors...

This reminds me of a thread I once made about my favorite dictator:
Libya "bans" EU-citizens
Fattah
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Egypt128 Posts
February 18 2011 00:16 GMT
#4
Col. Gaddaffi is the king of kings of Africa (according to Egypt's FORMER president), the longest serving president atm. 42 fucking years. That's like double the age of the average TL user.

I think what governments in Libya , Bahrain, Yemen Iraq and Iran are doing is exactly what the Egyptian and Tunisian government did. 1) Make spontaneous pro government protests. 2) Release convicts from prison and let them "handle it" 3) Send in police officers wearing civilian clothes to confuse the shit out of you. 4) Send the army in and remove all police.
Don't be surprised if they add something to the mix. In the end its power over people to them.

"Day of Rage" was the name of 25th January, the day that started the Egyptian revolution.
Ilfirin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States102 Posts
February 18 2011 22:02 GMT
#5
Britain is revoking arms exports to Libya and Bahrain, and possibly(??) to Yemen.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/02/bahrain-protests-1.html
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 22:26:33
February 18 2011 22:26 GMT
#6
On February 18 2011 09:16 Fattah wrote:
Col. Gaddaffi is the king of kings of Africa (according to Egypt's FORMER president), the longest serving president atm. 42 fucking years. That's like double the age of the average TL user.

I think what governments in Libya , Bahrain, Yemen Iraq and Iran are doing is exactly what the Egyptian and Tunisian government did. 1) Make spontaneous pro government protests. 2) Release convicts from prison and let them "handle it" 3) Send in police officers wearing civilian clothes to confuse the shit out of you. 4) Send the army in and remove all police.
Don't be surprised if they add something to the mix. In the end its power over people to them.

"Day of Rage" was the name of 25th January, the day that started the Egyptian revolution.


Usually it ends when the military rolls in, if they are loyal to the regime. It also, generally, means very very bad things when you allow the military to enter a city. These things weren't true for Egypt and made their revolution a lot less bloody than it could have been.

Edit: I have no idea what the Libyan army's relation to the government is or where their loyalty lies.
Ilfirin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States102 Posts
February 19 2011 06:08 GMT
#7
According to twitter feeds, their internet is totally down, news stations cut off, and the govt is having people shot in the head while praying, sleeping, etc. Spread the word, and pray for Libya today.
Ilfirin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States102 Posts
February 19 2011 06:18 GMT
#8
is anyone following twitter feeds over there right now? what are the router numbers for you think? the govt? or safe networks? i dont get it if they have no internet, which seems to be the situation, although there's no confirming anything as theres no news networks reporting much over there
Ilfirin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States102 Posts
February 20 2011 06:31 GMT
#9
Libya Live Blog
7:20 am Al Jazeera is speaking with a number of sources inside Libya, including Fathy Terbil, a lawyer who represents relatives of more than 1,000 people killed in an alleged 1996 "massacre" at Abu Salim jail in Tripoli. Terbil's arrest earlier in February helped ignite the ongoing protests.

Speaking with Al Jazeera via an Internet phone on Saturday, Terbil said there had been a "massacre" in Benghazi, the country's second-largest city. Security forces were using civilian cars without license places to drive about the city and open fire; dozens had been killed, perhaps hundreds.

"People here are living under very tough circumstances," Terbil said. Residents can't move about or drive their cars due to the random gunfire. Alleged mercenaries wearing yellow construction helmets - reported by numerous sources in the country - are roaming about and attacking protesters, he said.
Cain0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom608 Posts
February 20 2011 16:26 GMT
#10
174 people dead and rising .
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
February 20 2011 17:25 GMT
#11
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-02/19/c_13739109.htm
TRIPOLI, Feb. 18 (Xinhua) -- Libya's anti-government protesters hanged two policemen in the eastern city of Al-Baida, Oea newspaper reported Friday on its website.

The two policemen who were trying to disperse protesters that swept the city on Wednesday were hanged after protesters managed to hold them, Oea newspaper reported on its website.

Meanwhile, the paper said that a group of protesters killed the managing director of AL-Galaa hospital in downtown Benghazi, Libya 's second largest city. The victim's body was tortured, it added.


This is bad. I won't ask myself why there's going to be much more force used by police/military. There is always a problem with angry mobs doing absolutely absurd things like that instead of just protesting. Now you understand why policeman/soldiers will shit their pants and shoot to kill in some cases. Unlike the police/army the mob is not coordinated, the mob is driven by fury, it does not think. God help if the police/army will become driven by fury or revenge wish or even worse... fear.
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
February 20 2011 17:33 GMT
#12
Well, I`ve spent some time in Libya as a kid and I think the situation there is a bit different from what happened in tunisia/egypt. People there really liked Kaddaffi. At least he was investing some of the petrol money back to the country economics. But that was 15 years ago, so I guess things have changed.
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
February 20 2011 17:36 GMT
#13
The number dead probably ends in 'thousand' by now. News reports are well behind the rumoured developments reported elsewhere (like whole cities and airports being taken over by protestors).

It's now civil war. Neither side is being peaceful.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
February 20 2011 17:41 GMT
#14
Austrian media reports that apparently there are massacres taking place with the government even using heavy weapons like machine guns and missiles against demonstrants. The death toll seems to be around 200.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 20 2011 18:33 GMT
#15

iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Confirmation that the brigade that subdued Birka/Fadhil camp are #Libya army that are now with the rebels!



....
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Hatsu
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom474 Posts
February 20 2011 18:35 GMT
#16
Italian media reporting sources claiming that RPGs are being used against demonstrators as well.
The situation is pretty damn serious, and may very well turn out to be the bloodiest of all the recent uprisings.
Sedit qui timuit ne non succederet
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
February 20 2011 18:46 GMT
#17
oh god, i read Protoss in Libia /OFF

Afrika seems very heated lately, Sudan, Egypt just to mention the really recent ones
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 20 2011 19:03 GMT
#18

iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Multiple reports that Wurfla, #Libya's largest tribe, has declared rebellion against #Gaddafi #Feb17
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 20 2011 20:22 GMT
#19
AJE is confirming that the Interior Minister has joined the protesters.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
February 20 2011 21:26 GMT
#20
I think that of all those protests in the arab world, the Libyan one is the bloodiest. so many killed in such a short period of time =(....Down Gaddafi!!
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