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On January 13 2011 02:18 GGQ wrote: Reasons any role would ask to be tracked: Stalker- There's no reason to ask for tracker to track you. He'll recognise you instantly since you are the only role that visits two people, and you don't want town to know who you are. Traitor- The tracker will just get no visit. Wastes the tracker's ability for one night. Cool. Fool- He will see you visit someone, most likely someone who didn't die, and conclude that you are either the fool or the mason. Either way, he's gonna try to stop you from getting lynched. Bad move for fool. Mason- Like the fool, he'll see you visit someone who most likely didn't die. Again, he'll try to stop you from getting lynched, and if he finds the stalker later he can tell you who it is. Getting tracked is all good for the mason. Vigilante- Tracker will track you to a corpse, and since he didn't see you stalk anyone else, he can reasonably conclude that you are the vigilante. Then when he does find the stalker he can tell you and blam. In conclusion, the two roles that most want to be visited by the tracker are the other two town roles. To me, this seems like you are begging for a lynch, which makes me suspect you are the fool. I'd suggest you for the stalker's first kill. Almost certainly a town or fool. Why would I put that out there then if I were town? Obviously town wants to be found by the tracker. It was explicitly stated by the host so then would it not be stupid of me to try and get the tracker to find me knowing that other players can think of the reasons why each role would want to be tracked? The most accurate way to analyze my post would be: Spam. Also: Your reasoning is flawed. Although the town roles may "want to be tracked more" (I have no idea how you quantify this but w.e. bro) they are putting themselves at risk while traitors can simply mess with town's game and have little risk to their win scenario but of course risk to their lives. Don't just make stuff up. Also you stated that it's a bad move for a fool. Then why am I almost certainly the fool? Just make of it what you will but don't come to these premature conclusions kk thnx. | ||
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but what's with the teamplay on Chaoser? Putting a OMGUS vote on someone hardly means that you're not affiliated with them so now I wonder. So I must ask you Coagulation: Why the sudden switch instead of the OMGUS vote and ON why the sudden bandwagon on his vote? Here we can take into account the possible duos at this point in the game (the obv masons, tracker+town role or stalker+traitor) or perhaps a different type of play.##Vote OriginalName | ||
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On January 16 2011 02:23 OriginalName wrote: Your only proof is the OMGUS vote on me. Chances are your just trying to bandwagon a Traitor maybe your mason or tracker etc. Maybe you'd rather pursue Coag instead. I dont mind killing him personally. No I was questioning the quick bandwagon. Also the current lynch pretty much ruled out any of the hypothetical situations I placed on the two of you. Good lynching though  . | ||
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On January 17 2011 13:55 Impervious wrote: Well, OriginalName's name is really original, which is very suspicious to me. And Coagulation is acting wierd. Then again, from what I've seen in other Mafia games, he's always wierd, so I dunno to make of that. chaoser waiting until the last second to make a vote seems a little wierd as well..... I'm not sure what to make of it. Wanting to get a replacement for Mr. Wiggles and chaokel (now Subversion) seems to indicate some kind of important role for at least one of them. Subversion being added and now wanting to catch up seems to indicate that either he's got some kind of important role, or he is doing it as a show, and he doesn't give a shit about his role (town). I'm still not sure what to make of it at the moment, however. Some others have been quiet. Not sure what to make of it either yet. It's still pretty early in the game. What are you trying to pull here? You're obviously joking about the first part (well hopefully) but you proceed to list a couple tidbits of info concerning the game and give a huge "Well, I don't know what they mean"? I can tell you that Chaoser was being modkilled because he was inactive. INACTIVE. That explains the timing of his vote and the reason for voting on OriginalName was so that he himself would not get lynched. Simple. Moving on. This game only has 9 roles and there was a list for replacements. It would be strange if Deconduo DIDN'T replace the two of them. What you're trying to say doesn't make any sense. There's nothing here to suggest that Subversion is a townie. Of course you don't know what to make of it because you made a premature conclusion before trying to analyze his behaviour. As for quiet. That can be said for everyone in this game. There has been little stir or aggressive behaviour. ALSO: I can give you guys some reassuring information as I was PMing Hesmyrr before he got killed. They were not aware of the stalker's role because he considered me as a gambiting stalker at one point in the night and was consulting his partner. Now what does this have to do with you? Well in association with Hesmyrr, you've had some friendly banter with Hesmyrr concerning the role. Subsequently this post caught my attention. On January 15 2011 02:23 Impervious wrote: I guess that means we've gotta figure out who the Mason(s), vig, and stalker are, so we can eliminate one of them. Ideas? The mafia as a whole could not win by finding out the stalker because we couldn't all be converted. So why is this a good option for us? It's not: It's a good option for the masons. You basically give them the power to choose who to give victory to and give them an assured win. Also literally half an hour after Hesmyrr changes his vote: he follows suit with no reason at all other than that he changed his mind. On January 16 2011 05:04 Impervious wrote: ## Vote chaoser Changed my mind. My vote rests on Impervious ##Vote Impervious | ||
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On January 17 2011 23:22 Impervious wrote: Your biggest post so far. Congrats! Especially considering one of your earlier ones was: Which is pretty interesting in itself. Maybe I wanted to get some discussion going? Especially since my post you quoted was full of shit at parts (If you don't see it, I feel sorry for you). I'm more concerned about your accusing tone against me. That's better than spamming up the thread. Maintaining a passive tone while inserting no thoughts of your own is not helpful. Of course I see your post was full of shit. That's why I quoted it. Why would you post shit in this game? Oh and excuse me for wanting to get somewhere as the "town" in this reverse mafia game. I was playing with WIFOM early on to establish some reliability as a mason while I was fishing from Hesmyrr. | ||
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. Truthfully though town is probably sitting on their fat asses now, putting out the minimum amount of posts to stay alive simply because everyone else isn't posting either. I also suggest playing as if Vig is alive. | ||
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1) I'm impressed by Impervious's contribution in such a dull game especially since there was no reaction with my initial attack on him. 2) LunarDestiny's most recent post concentrates on the thought processes of the masons rather than anything useful to traitors. Now before you go on to say something along the lines of "Hey knowing what they might be doing is useful.", I'd like to state that the two options that he stated require the same actions from the masons. Both plans have the masons simply recruit people every night not to mention these seem more like possible outcomes rather than plans. He simply stated the obvious: masons want to win the game. If you view them as possible outcomes however, this seems very town-centric as there really isn't any mention of what we as the mafia might do. I'm not entirely sure if he mis-worded the last part either because he wants us to play as if we will be recruited masons later in the game. Either way depending on the intended wording of the post, this is blatantly town-favoured or not helpful to us at all and is under the guise of being productive. (It can be considered better in relation to everyone else but looks like a town slip to me). 3) We need some talk going on so pressure isn't bad. ##Vote LunarDestiny | ||
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On January 18 2011 13:56 LunarDestiny wrote: I was typing my long analysis and people start bandwagon on me. Let me clear the confusion why I say those plans could try to use: Hesmyrr, who said he left a plan for his fellow mason to follow, IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THIS GAME. He plan is therefore the best. There is no way that any of us can come out and say that he can top Hesmyrr. If we want to win with stalker, then we will have to debate want Hesmyrr's plan is and how to defeat it. Let me ask those who voted me: Do you think what I say to mason is better than what Hesmyrr (the best player) had said? If yes, I will take pride. If no, then I only try to guess what mason's plan is and how we can counter it. It does not give town (or mason to be specific) any benefit whereas it gives more information to those who are not in any group. That's quite cynical of you. So your logic behind this is because Hesmyrr is an experienced player (and in fact the best in your opinion) that his plan is near-immaculate and we must band together to destroy it like some sort of hardcore raidboss. You're going overboard here buddy. Just because you play mafia well does not mean you are some sort of schemer. There are different strengths a player can have in mafia and that usually doesn't involve coming up with some sort of elaborate plan. (Ex: Scumhunting) WHY ARE YOU SAYING THINGS TO MASONS ANYWAYS? Your so called plans were redundant and as I had previously stated you could hardly call them plans. This is counter-productive and is the exact kind of behaviour that I was pointing out in my earlier post. | ||
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##Vote: No Lynch Nothing to do in this setup? Too reliant on roles. | ||
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. Just out of curiosity, what makes you so sure that Impervious or Coagulation have not been converted? I assume you check Impervious today so we should confirm the order in which the actions are taken at night before making any conclusions about his roles. Not so cut and dry as I was lead to believe by reading this day's post.4 Things: Deconduo: please clarify the order Anyone: CC stalker? GeorgeClooney: Speak up Lunardestiny: Roles | ||
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