• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:05
CEST 18:05
KST 01:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy13
Community News
LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments2Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris53Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!15
StarCraft 2
General
Production Quality - Maestros of the Game Vs RSL 2 Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Heaven's Balance Suggestions (roast me) Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion BW General Discussion Victoria gamers Pros React To: herO's Baffling Game BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Is there English video for group selection for ASL Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1647 users

[M] (4) Midgard

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
Zero.Tha.Hero
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada155 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 11:58:59
December 29 2010 11:43 GMT
#1
[image loading]


Midgard 1.0


by ZeroThaHero

Additional Map Images:
+ Show Spoiler +

Map Analyzer Openness
[image loading]

Central map feature
[image loading]

Main, Natural, and Third, clockwise from top right
[image loading]

Xel'Naga view into central LOS blockers
[image loading]

Map Details:
- 1v1 start locations are cross-positions only
- Diamond-shaped towers on either side of natural expansion are unpathable to air units
- Destructable rocks block direct route from natural expansion to adjacent third
- Droppable cliff behind 3rd
- Center of map (including all raised platforms) is unbuildable except for creep tumor/sensor tower

All comments are welcome, I'll be happy if you played my map :D
baskerville
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
541 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 11:59:39
December 29 2010 11:56 GMT
#2
You must answer more potential future questions in your showcasing, such as:
Destructible rocks or invulnerable doodad (the ones blocking accesses)?
Unpathable to air? Maybe add that there are no ramps for ground units access.
And all other questions you could think of.

I like the texture mix, it should be very nice alongside creep for one.
The center is nice layout wise, but you could insist on the graphics. Add doodads and stuff so it makes it feel more "used" less "empty, I really like the ground old school "Conan the barbarian" feel already.

Good map (well... I do feel the layout screems iccup though)
http://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/smilies/random-big.gif
Zero.Tha.Hero
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada155 Posts
December 29 2010 12:07 GMT
#3
I take influence from ICCup map design, as well as BW map design. I hate all the empty space in Blizz maps, and I like to utilize as much of the playable area as possible. The cliff behind the third is intentionally inaccessible via ramp, allowing the possibility for drop pressure.
Also:+ Show Spoiler +
one geyser in the natural expansion can be hit by at most two tanks from the cliff behind the third
baskerville
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
541 Posts
December 29 2010 12:20 GMT
#4
You could add a ramp and still make them accessible to ground units.
http://www.teamliquid.net/mirror/smilies/random-big.gif
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 18:51:50
December 29 2010 14:09 GMT
#5
Zero, this map looks really cool. Is it published on NA?

Here's a few picky things:
If 1v1 is cross positions only, why make a 4-player map?
Art - I saw your post in the help thread, so i'll let this slide. But from the looks of things, you know how to use doodads quite well - you ought to consider making this entirely by yourself
The map looks really square - you might consider tucking the mains into the thirds (you can leave a thin canyon between them) to give it a slightly less square look. Just aesthetically pleasing.
The middle is less open than it looks thanks to those LOS blockers... I'm not entirely sure how that would play out.

Looks good
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Faze.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada285 Posts
December 29 2010 14:34 GMT
#6
1v1 start locations are cross-positions only

You sir, win a cookie.

If 1v1 is cross positions only, why make a 4-player map?

So it can be used in 2v2 or FFA as well, without being completely fucked up imbalanced and/or annoying in 1v1.
D:
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
December 29 2010 14:54 GMT
#7
On December 29 2010 23:34 Faze. wrote:
Show nested quote +
If 1v1 is cross positions only, why make a 4-player map?

So it can be used in 2v2 or FFA as well, without being completely fucked up imbalanced and/or annoying in 1v1.


Derp. That's what I get for posting after 2 hours of sleep.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50245 Posts
December 29 2010 14:59 GMT
#8
Yeah but if the map is using rotational symmetry they why bother with only cross positions?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Zero.Tha.Hero
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada155 Posts
December 29 2010 18:50 GMT
#9
The reason 1v1 is set to cross positions only is to prevent the inherent unbalances that would be present in a matchup between adjacent spawns. I wanted to make a bigger macro-oriented 1v1 map that was still able to provide a variable playing experience, taking away the monotany of being in the same alternating base every game! Also, the LOS blockers in the middle were put in to encourage use of the watchtowers. Early testing of the map showed the middle being far too easy to push through.
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
December 29 2010 20:18 GMT
#10
Holy shit, sean finally published his map~

I've tested this one personally. The cross positions work really well ;D
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Cosmonarchy
14:00
Showmatch #4
TriGGeR vs YoungYakov
YoungYakov vs HonMonO
HonMonO vs TriGGeR
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Vindicta 57
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7276
Jaedong 2718
Larva 1074
BeSt 646
firebathero 605
EffOrt 601
Mini 413
actioN 357
ZerO 353
Rush 210
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 157
TY 136
ggaemo 132
Dewaltoss 105
Nal_rA 102
PianO 66
Backho 42
Free 36
Yoon 28
Movie 28
Noble 27
Rock 26
yabsab 14
HiyA 13
Terrorterran 10
sSak 7
IntoTheRainbow 5
ivOry 3
Dota 2
The International68321
Gorgc13520
Dendi683
Fuzer 263
XcaliburYe116
Counter-Strike
fl0m2693
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu435
Khaldor262
Other Games
singsing1384
JimRising 265
Hui .248
crisheroes220
mouzStarbuck177
KnowMe167
Mlord166
SortOf147
ToD130
QueenE68
ZerO(Twitch)18
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 28
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 1
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix11
• Pr0nogo 11
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV238
• Noizen35
League of Legends
• Nemesis2971
• Jankos1080
Upcoming Events
Maestros of the Game
55m
Solar vs Bunny
Clem vs Rogue
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1h 55m
OSC
5h 55m
RSL Revival
17h 55m
Cure vs Bunny
Creator vs Zoun
Maestros of the Game
1d
Maru vs Lambo
herO vs ShoWTimE
BSL Team Wars
1d 2h
Team Hawk vs Team Sziky
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 17h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 23h
The PondCast
4 days
Online Event
5 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Cosmonarchy
6 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-02
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025: Warsaw LAN
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.