everyone tried to push and now i come back and everyone plays like a terran who just started temple and will open NEVER with 2fact and either 1fact expand or 1factdropship and harass ALL GAME while securing their min only and come out with a 2/2 army that is so huge i couldnt beat it with a 200/200 army

im flustered and need help

hk(taRo)

79 Posts

July 28 2004 10:33 GMT

W.W.N.D

What would nal ra do.

Ack1027

United States7873 Posts

July 28 2004 10:42 GMT

Rofl wtf? I see tank push all the time. Well maybe it's just that I notice it more because it's the gayest thing ever to happen to a toss. T_T

Ack1027

United States7873 Posts

July 28 2004 10:43 GMT

On July 28 2004 19:33 hk(taRo) wrote:
W.W.N.D

What would nal ra do.

Build cannons. O_o

worst.player

625 Posts

July 28 2004 10:54 GMT

At close positions push is good.

And what's the problem is Terran is only turtling and trying to harass? PvT is so much easier then.

Hot_Bid

Braavos36401 Posts

July 28 2004 11:15 GMT

make carrier

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

July 28 2004 11:16 GMT

On July 28 2004 19:26 PheeRed.User wrote:
is there such thing as a slow push anymore?

when i left sc

im flustered and need help

Macro to 150, get 4 stargate carrier. Macro to 200, get mass arbiters.

Btw, 2 fac vult into expo is really popular still -.-

STIMEY d okgm fish

Canada6140 Posts

July 28 2004 11:18 GMT

stop playing vs iloveoov and nada

Refrain[FriZ]

Canada4337 Posts

July 28 2004 11:22 GMT

beat it with carriers + arbit + storm. minimize harass.

dan1st

Malaysia399 Posts

July 28 2004 11:50 GMT

#10

Mind control the bastard and tank push him back.
^^

Dang:)

United States423 Posts

July 28 2004 11:55 GMT

#11

On July 28 2004 19:42 Abyss_Bahamut wrote:
Rofl wtf? I see tank push all the time. Well maybe it's just that I notice it more because it's the gayest thing ever to happen to a toss. T_T

so true :D
i do the tank push thing

but i jus started ran so thats all i can do won a game finally lol.....

ejai63

United States2101 Posts

July 28 2004 12:00 GMT

#12

If terran does 1 fac expo you should be able to win pretty easily....

zerohora

Brazil97 Posts

July 28 2004 12:07 GMT

#13

ejai63, what? so iloveoov should lose pretty easily because he almost always go 1 fac -> expo

RuGbUg

United States2347 Posts

July 28 2004 12:18 GMT

#14

dropship harass is the hardest terran to play against. get used to it, gamei terrans love it

Chris307

3095 Posts

July 28 2004 12:58 GMT

#15

You're losing to players who are better than you

Keep plugging away.

RuGbUg

United States2347 Posts

July 28 2004 14:13 GMT

#16

On July 28 2004 20:22 Refrain[FriZ] wrote:
beat it with carriers + arbit + storm. minimize harass.

arbiter is a waste. i never get it.

comabreaded

United States2166 Posts

July 28 2004 14:32 GMT

#17

i use slow push all the time .. !? i think it's still very common. esp the 2fac vults into expo and slow push.

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

July 28 2004 14:36 GMT

#18

When i play terran i slow push

its fun

to beat turtle faggot terran you either have to be better overall or abuse the godliness of carriers.

i play pvt vs turtlers like a countdown. I have so much time before the terran can overwhelm me on land. I need to be set up and ready to go with game-ending units like carriers or arbiters before this time runs out. Harassing him buys me more time. Doing heavy damage to his first surge buys me more time.

If you know he wont come out of his base, devote all your resources to expansion and harass protection. You wont be going on the offense for a bit, so take the time to secure your position. Part of securing your position is throwing up 3-4 stargates and a fleet beacon

if you're having trouble with that 200/200 army, bring like 6 templar along with you on your next crusade. Keep obs around his base, and whatever troops you have in position (When they're not preventing harass). when you see him moving out, move in! tanks and vultures that are bunched up (like they are when they're exiting a base..!) are easy to storm.

What i try to do is cover his shit in storm, then back off so I don't lose TOO much.

more often than not what will happen from here is you will weaken his push (a blanket of storm does ALOT of damage, and near-death tanks don't fight well), buying you a liiiiittle more time.

if you luck out, and you stop his push dead (not likely, but hey it can happen), you have a huge advantage. as soon as it looks like your troops are fucked, back off. Carriers should be on the way, and you'll have a much easier time from there on

You won't win a land battle vs a turtle terran unless your micro is far superior to his push abilities, assuming you both have similar macro.

On another note, keep an eye on his base! if you see somewhere you can sneak a shuttle with two templar in, do it! scv loss is devastating to turtle terrans, and will buy you more time.

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

July 28 2004 14:37 GMT

#19

feel free to hold out until better players offer advice though

RuGbUg

United States2347 Posts

July 28 2004 14:41 GMT

#20

you guys overestimate the necessity of harass. sure temp drops own bu ttoss macro should rape the shit out of terran macro. you shouldn't be on a countdown unless you have 200 psi, then the countdown starts (if you don't have stargates and 20 gates, if you do, its over)