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pheered.user
Profile Joined March 2003
United States2603 Posts
July 28 2004 10:26 GMT
#1
is there such thing as a slow push anymore?

when i left sc everyone tried to push and now i come back and everyone plays like a terran who just started temple and will open NEVER with 2fact and either 1fact expand or 1factdropship and harass ALL GAME while securing their min only and come out with a 2/2 army that is so huge i couldnt beat it with a 200/200 army im flustered and need help
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hk(taRo)
Profile Joined June 2004
79 Posts
July 28 2004 10:33 GMT
#2
W.W.N.D

What would nal ra do.
lost my pass to hk[hanbyul].....
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
July 28 2004 10:42 GMT
#3
Rofl wtf? I see tank push all the time. Well maybe it's just that I notice it more because it's the gayest thing ever to happen to a toss. T_T
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-07-28 10:43:09
July 28 2004 10:43 GMT
#4
On July 28 2004 19:33 hk(taRo) wrote:
W.W.N.D

What would nal ra do.


Build cannons. O_o
worst.player
Profile Joined July 2004
625 Posts
July 28 2004 10:54 GMT
#5
At close positions push is good.

And what's the problem is Terran is only turtling and trying to harass? PvT is so much easier then.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
July 28 2004 11:15 GMT
#6
make carrier
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 28 2004 11:16 GMT
#7
On July 28 2004 19:26 PheeRed.User wrote:
is there such thing as a slow push anymore?

when i left sc everyone tried to push and now i come back and everyone plays like a terran who just started temple and will open NEVER with 2fact and either 1fact expand or 1factdropship and harass ALL GAME while securing their min only and come out with a 2/2 army that is so huge i couldnt beat it with a 200/200 army im flustered and need help

Macro to 150, get 4 stargate carrier. Macro to 200, get mass arbiters.

Btw, 2 fac vult into expo is really popular still -.-
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
July 28 2004 11:18 GMT
#8
stop playing vs iloveoov and nada
Refrain[FriZ]
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada4337 Posts
July 28 2004 11:22 GMT
#9
beat it with carriers + arbit + storm. minimize harass.
dan1st
Profile Joined April 2004
Malaysia399 Posts
July 28 2004 11:50 GMT
#10
Mind control the bastard and tank push him back.
^^
Dang:)
Profile Joined July 2004
United States423 Posts
July 28 2004 11:55 GMT
#11
On July 28 2004 19:42 Abyss_Bahamut wrote:
Rofl wtf? I see tank push all the time. Well maybe it's just that I notice it more because it's the gayest thing ever to happen to a toss. T_T


so true :D
i do the tank push thing but i jus started ran so thats all i can do won a game finally lol.....
ehhehhe
ejai63
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2101 Posts
July 28 2004 12:00 GMT
#12
If terran does 1 fac expo you should be able to win pretty easily....
1-10-5
zerohora
Profile Joined June 2004
Brazil97 Posts
July 28 2004 12:07 GMT
#13
ejai63, what? so iloveoov should lose pretty easily because he almost always go 1 fac -> expo
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
July 28 2004 12:18 GMT
#14
dropship harass is the hardest terran to play against. get used to it, gamei terrans love it
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
Chris307
Profile Joined June 2004
3095 Posts
July 28 2004 12:58 GMT
#15
You're losing to players who are better than you

Keep plugging away.
PUSH DICE CUP BACK AND I SHOOT CRAP
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
July 28 2004 14:13 GMT
#16
On July 28 2004 20:22 Refrain[FriZ] wrote:
beat it with carriers + arbit + storm. minimize harass.
arbiter is a waste. i never get it.
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
July 28 2004 14:32 GMT
#17
i use slow push all the time .. !? i think it's still very common. esp the 2fac vults into expo and slow push.
I put the fu in fun
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 28 2004 14:36 GMT
#18
When i play terran i slow push

its fun


to beat turtle faggot terran you either have to be better overall or abuse the godliness of carriers.

i play pvt vs turtlers like a countdown. I have so much time before the terran can overwhelm me on land. I need to be set up and ready to go with game-ending units like carriers or arbiters before this time runs out. Harassing him buys me more time. Doing heavy damage to his first surge buys me more time.

If you know he wont come out of his base, devote all your resources to expansion and harass protection. You wont be going on the offense for a bit, so take the time to secure your position. Part of securing your position is throwing up 3-4 stargates and a fleet beacon

if you're having trouble with that 200/200 army, bring like 6 templar along with you on your next crusade. Keep obs around his base, and whatever troops you have in position (When they're not preventing harass). when you see him moving out, move in! tanks and vultures that are bunched up (like they are when they're exiting a base..!) are easy to storm.

What i try to do is cover his shit in storm, then back off so I don't lose TOO much.

more often than not what will happen from here is you will weaken his push (a blanket of storm does ALOT of damage, and near-death tanks don't fight well), buying you a liiiiittle more time.

if you luck out, and you stop his push dead (not likely, but hey it can happen), you have a huge advantage. as soon as it looks like your troops are fucked, back off. Carriers should be on the way, and you'll have a much easier time from there on

You won't win a land battle vs a turtle terran unless your micro is far superior to his push abilities, assuming you both have similar macro.


On another note, keep an eye on his base! if you see somewhere you can sneak a shuttle with two templar in, do it! scv loss is devastating to turtle terrans, and will buy you more time.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 28 2004 14:37 GMT
#19
feel free to hold out until better players offer advice though
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
July 28 2004 14:41 GMT
#20
you guys overestimate the necessity of harass. sure temp drops own bu ttoss macro should rape the shit out of terran macro. you shouldn't be on a countdown unless you have 200 psi, then the countdown starts (if you don't have stargates and 20 gates, if you do, its over)
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
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