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zhul4nder
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States189 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 19:11:14
August 30 2010 10:29 GMT
#1
Related to this thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142367

So you will need both blink and charge in order to do this trick with an army of only zealots and stalkers (for ease of tab abilities).

Basically, you will get your chargelots to charge into the enemy way before the chargelots "are in range the target". Also, you can use this trick to move your zealot army in front of your stalker army or make your zealots move from place to place using charge.

The process:

1. obviously, tech to both charge and blink. Make sure your zealots and stalkers are 'within' each other as in they're mixed within each other.

2. Now, move your units to the desired location, preferably, somewhere far away from your army.

3. Manually select charge on your zealot and select a forward stalker, as in a stalker that is near the front of your army. (I use tab because it's easier).

4. Since you have selected your stalker with your zealot charge, your mouse is back to its default selection mouse.

Select your stalker and blink forward into the desired location. Make sure you don't double click it as you would select all your stalkers and blink to a location.
The zealots should be charging at the stalker that is blinked away.

To cancel the attack to the stalker but remain charging, select all your zealots that are charging and attack move.

video:



-edit-

After further testing, charge is left turned on if the move attack command is selected before the zealot hits its target. So, technically, you could do this trick without the stalker blinked to the front and attacking your own zealot. It's only easier because the distance that the zealots need to run is longer, which gives you more time to select the charging zealots into the desired direction.

Also, something to make this topic even more interesting. If you make a arch around a single zealot, and force charge on that zealot. Then quickly select all those zealots and attack move in a direction, they will charge in that direction for as long as the skill lasts. That application i can clearly see working.

http://www.livestream.com/tossupswhatsups/video?clipId=pla_aaf83715-9fc7-4ea5-81e6-b553cb0d7b46

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Ynot_Fighting
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States216 Posts
August 30 2010 10:32 GMT
#2
I have found the best use for charge besides attack was a retreat path. Quickly recall your zealots so kiting doesn't completely eat them alive.
SirNeshorn
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway66 Posts
August 30 2010 10:34 GMT
#3
Sounds like a nice trick. Will definately try it out.
zhul4nder
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States189 Posts
August 30 2010 10:36 GMT
#4
recall is probably not a very viable option in most games. This technique would most preferably be used to rush into a zerg/protoss natural with your zealots quickly, before they can react.
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Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
August 30 2010 10:44 GMT
#5
not that great imo.. maybe useful against seige tanks
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zhul4nder
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States189 Posts
August 30 2010 11:05 GMT
#6
On August 30 2010 19:44 Terrakin wrote:
not that great imo.. maybe useful against seige tanks


What are you talking about? The earlier they charge, the more damage they will do against bio balls. Half the battle for a zealot is getting there without dying.
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zhul4nder
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States189 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 11:21:32
August 30 2010 11:15 GMT
#7
in original post.
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HTX
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany265 Posts
August 30 2010 11:26 GMT
#8
Sounds like a nice trick thats helpful and great to watch from a spectators view. Would love to see it work in a short video introduction. Good job
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zhul4nder
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States189 Posts
August 30 2010 11:42 GMT
#9
a little bit off topic...but hare fraps videos supposed to be 500mb?
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eNbee
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium487 Posts
August 30 2010 11:46 GMT
#10
On August 30 2010 20:42 zhul4nder wrote:
a little bit off topic...but hare fraps videos supposed to be 500mb?


Fraps videos are massive yeah. It's raw unedited avi, high bitrate
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KissKiss
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom136 Posts
August 30 2010 11:50 GMT
#11
You need to run that raw video through some sort of encoder. VirtualDub is free and relatively easy, or you can probably use WindowsMovieMaker if its your OS.
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
August 30 2010 11:57 GMT
#12
So you have charge permanently on?
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zhul4nder
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States189 Posts
August 30 2010 18:29 GMT
#13
finally have the video posted
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tetramaster
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada253 Posts
August 30 2010 18:36 GMT
#14
That is...pretty cool.

Those extra steps could certainly make the difference. Neat little micro tricks like this = good
Pobearo
Profile Joined August 2009
United States351 Posts
August 30 2010 18:37 GMT
#15
Have you tried doing this blinking up or down a cliff, or over a gap? It seems like this could be a neat little way to speed large groups of zealots around an obstacle, which would be a cool trick to have every once in a while when you're strapped for time.
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 18:41:31
August 30 2010 18:39 GMT
#16
I like to put the Stalkers at the front, take the first round of hits, then Blink them behind the Zealots.

Though yeah, it would be hilarious if you can Blink a Stalker up that cliff, make the Zealots charge and they zoom around the cliff and up the ramp on a map like Lost Temple.

That'll get nerfed eventually
dvide
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom287 Posts
August 30 2010 19:10 GMT
#17
On August 31 2010 03:37 Pobearo wrote:
Have you tried doing this blinking up or down a cliff, or over a gap? It seems like this could be a neat little way to speed large groups of zealots around an obstacle, which would be a cool trick to have every once in a while when you're strapped for time.

It actually works, but unfortunately they don't charge forever. They slow back down after a short time. Still, might have some use.
zhul4nder
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States189 Posts
August 30 2010 19:10 GMT
#18
i found a way to charge with only zealots. It's very easy actually and very doable in game.
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Solasce
Profile Joined August 2010
United States68 Posts
August 30 2010 19:19 GMT
#19
am I the only one so far to notice that this is going to blow the 12 second cooldown for all your chargelots long before they're in range of the enemy? If you do this while entering a battle scenario, the bioball + tanks or roach + hydra will have a full 12 seconds to kite/destroy the oncoming zealot line as they run at slightly above regular speed towards the enemy.

I really am struggling to find a scenario where this would be useful.
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-30 19:27:58
August 30 2010 19:23 GMT
#20
You don't really need blink, you can just charge any zealot and then attack move towards your targets. Using the patrol trick to space your Zealots nicely before hand is good, as it makes a much larger amount of your Zealots charge. It will be a cute situational micro trick against breaking Siege Tank lines.
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