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Did KeSPA cancel TLO vs Nada at IEM?

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Motion
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:08:45
August 21 2010 10:54 GMT
#1
Mod Edit
Official Comment from Carmac

I think all of this is getting blown out of proportion, so I think commenting on the issue would only create unnecessary controversy.


From Carmac
"...Nada was in Germany to promote another game (not SC2) for his team
Wemadefox. Kespa agreed to the show match as long as it was not streamed
to Korea and was a local show match. Someone in Korea got ahold of the
stream and was restreaming it on a Korean streaming site. Apparently
Kespa saw this and called Germany to stop the match..."


Different Mod Edit:
Source: FOMOS


A Fomos article suggests that KeSPA had nothing to do with it. The WeMade front office announced:

"ESL was holding an Avalon Online event in Germany, and we received and accepted their abrupt offer for a showmatch with Nada. He hasn't played much SC II, so we allowed the event under the condition that the match be unbroadcasted, but there is no truth to claims that we stopped the match.

There are some rumors going around right now, but it was not WeMade or KeSPA that halted the games. Nada GG'd out quickly in game three because there were network issues, and concluded it would be difficult to proceed with the match. Upon talking to the event administrators, it appears that there was incorrect information about KeSPA relayed to the ESL staff."

So, with two differing stories, ESL people, PLEASE CLARIFY.


Mod Edit:
On August 21 2010 20:09 Kennigit wrote:
Yeah just confirmed with carmac.
Show nested quote +
Game was restreamed to Korea. Kespa found out, called wemade fox
Boom
Game done.






WTF, the stream was brought to korea over an uplink with afreeca ...
Is this a typical Kespa move ?

I mean, Ongamenet will show GSL, it looks like kespa trys to stop sc2 in any cases...
Kespa must really hate SC2, and i guess this is an example to not make "pro-gamer license" imo.
http://www.gentle-nerds.com
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States749 Posts
August 21 2010 10:56 GMT
#2
I was waiting for this thread to pop up, i wont be surprised if it gets locked quickly.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 21 2010 10:56 GMT
#3
yes it is

KeSPA > Bnet 2.0, atleast they could play that match again

fucking ridiculous
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
GreenFantastic
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada78 Posts
August 21 2010 10:57 GMT
#4
I'm actually surprised on how fast they were able to find the "anonymous" stream in Korea.
Chill-leader Set plz
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
August 21 2010 10:58 GMT
#5
KeSPA has a bad attitude against the people who own the original rights to Starcraft and actually created the game. I don't care how much they've put in to the eSports community, they've been huge dicks about control, shutting down GOM streaming Brood War and trying to win the game's rights. They deserve it, and they're just butt-hurt now.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
GodIsNotHere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada395 Posts
August 21 2010 10:58 GMT
#6
On August 21 2010 19:56 SmoKim wrote:
yes it is

KeSPA > Bnet 2.0, atleast they could play that match again

fucking ridiculous

But srly guys Bnets so amazing with all its features that will make you want to always be connected!... OH WAIT!
In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Goodwill.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
August 21 2010 10:58 GMT
#7
Why do I get the feeling they were just waiting to shut the showmatch before it even started.
decemvre
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania639 Posts
August 21 2010 10:59 GMT
#8
War on KeSPA, here we go... ^.^/
decemberTV
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
August 21 2010 10:59 GMT
#9
NaDa was severly behind he lost more than 10 SCVs in TLO's harassment and was behind in units with TLO's death push on its way.

Kind of a dickish move by KeSPA though.
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t3tsubo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada682 Posts
August 21 2010 10:59 GMT
#10
NOOO don't close this thread, people who didn't stay up to watch have to know of the travesty!!!
Motion
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany183 Posts
August 21 2010 11:00 GMT
#11
On August 21 2010 19:56 SmoKim wrote:
yes it is

KeSPA > Bnet 2.0, atleast they could play that match again

fucking ridiculous


I was waiting for that match all day long and now this.. the first 2 games were very interesting!
http://www.gentle-nerds.com
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 21 2010 11:00 GMT
#12
On August 21 2010 19:58 GodIsNotHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 19:56 SmoKim wrote:
yes it is

KeSPA > Bnet 2.0, atleast they could play that match again

fucking ridiculous

But srly guys Bnets so amazing with all its features that will make you want to always be connected!... OH WAIT!


don't get me wrong, Bnet have shown TWICE in IEM now that it's fail in terms of E-sport im just saying that what KeSPA did was far more bullshit
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
torm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada274 Posts
August 21 2010 11:01 GMT
#13
it's a little unclear what exactly kespa did, could someone elaborate?
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
August 21 2010 11:01 GMT
#14
Wait what exactly do you mean by block the match. Did they ban the esl site or what.
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:03:09
August 21 2010 11:02 GMT
#15
And NOW I fully understand why Blizzard didn't want to negotiate with KeSPA

Makes me support any Blizzard decisions x100 times more even if that means profit for Activision.

On August 21 2010 20:01 G3nXsiS wrote:
Wait what exactly do you mean by block the match. Did they ban the esl site or what.


I missed match because I was busy, but people said KeSPA forced NADA to GG out of the game.
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
August 21 2010 11:02 GMT
#16
On August 21 2010 20:01 G3nXsiS wrote:
Wait what exactly do you mean by block the match. Did they ban the esl site or what.


They just cancelled the showmatch. NaDa GG'd and they stopped the showmatch.
this game is a fucking jokie
buKe
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada168 Posts
August 21 2010 11:02 GMT
#17
kespa is just preserving its position in esports. they have the big names and if blizzard wants those names to take part in sc2 they need to throw kespa a bone. i would do the same if i was kespa, its business and kespa is a huge organization employing lots of people, their not gonna lose their jobs without a fight.

and i think we'd all prefer kespa to have all control of esports and blizzard can go make another wow expansion, because honestly kespa actually cares about esports.
BattleSheen
Profile Joined April 2010
United States58 Posts
August 21 2010 11:03 GMT
#18
can someone explain a little in depth about what just happened? how does kespa have control over what is streamed in korea? how are they able to stifle sc2?
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GodIsNotHere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada395 Posts
August 21 2010 11:05 GMT
#19
On August 21 2010 20:00 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 19:58 GodIsNotHere wrote:
On August 21 2010 19:56 SmoKim wrote:
yes it is

KeSPA > Bnet 2.0, atleast they could play that match again

fucking ridiculous

But srly guys Bnets so amazing with all its features that will make you want to always be connected!... OH WAIT!


don't get me wrong, Bnet have shown TWICE in IEM now that it's fail in terms of E-sport im just saying that what KeSPA did was far more bullshit

Lol agreed I'm just showing my general feelings of being unimpressed with Bnet2.0
In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Goodwill.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51591 Posts
August 21 2010 11:05 GMT
#20
On August 21 2010 19:57 GreenFantastic wrote:
I'm actually surprised on how fast they were able to find the "anonymous" stream in Korea.


it was probably streamed on afreeca, basically korea's livestream, and stuff spreads like wildfire over there.
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