• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:25
CEST 15:25
KST 22:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists9[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers7Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced5Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail0MaNa leaves Team Liquid18
StarCraft 2
General
2026 GSL Tour plans announced Maestros of the Game 2 announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
Data needed ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone [ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group B [ASL21] Ro16 Group A [ASL21] Ro24 Group F [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2027 users

Did KeSPA cancel TLO vs Nada at IEM?

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 26 27 28 Next All
Motion
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:08:45
August 21 2010 10:54 GMT
#1
Mod Edit
Official Comment from Carmac

I think all of this is getting blown out of proportion, so I think commenting on the issue would only create unnecessary controversy.


From Carmac
"...Nada was in Germany to promote another game (not SC2) for his team
Wemadefox. Kespa agreed to the show match as long as it was not streamed
to Korea and was a local show match. Someone in Korea got ahold of the
stream and was restreaming it on a Korean streaming site. Apparently
Kespa saw this and called Germany to stop the match..."


Different Mod Edit:
Source: FOMOS


A Fomos article suggests that KeSPA had nothing to do with it. The WeMade front office announced:

"ESL was holding an Avalon Online event in Germany, and we received and accepted their abrupt offer for a showmatch with Nada. He hasn't played much SC II, so we allowed the event under the condition that the match be unbroadcasted, but there is no truth to claims that we stopped the match.

There are some rumors going around right now, but it was not WeMade or KeSPA that halted the games. Nada GG'd out quickly in game three because there were network issues, and concluded it would be difficult to proceed with the match. Upon talking to the event administrators, it appears that there was incorrect information about KeSPA relayed to the ESL staff."

So, with two differing stories, ESL people, PLEASE CLARIFY.


Mod Edit:
On August 21 2010 20:09 Kennigit wrote:
Yeah just confirmed with carmac.
Show nested quote +
Game was restreamed to Korea. Kespa found out, called wemade fox
Boom
Game done.






WTF, the stream was brought to korea over an uplink with afreeca ...
Is this a typical Kespa move ?

I mean, Ongamenet will show GSL, it looks like kespa trys to stop sc2 in any cases...
Kespa must really hate SC2, and i guess this is an example to not make "pro-gamer license" imo.
http://www.gentle-nerds.com
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States748 Posts
August 21 2010 10:56 GMT
#2
I was waiting for this thread to pop up, i wont be surprised if it gets locked quickly.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 21 2010 10:56 GMT
#3
yes it is

KeSPA > Bnet 2.0, atleast they could play that match again

fucking ridiculous
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
GreenFantastic
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada78 Posts
August 21 2010 10:57 GMT
#4
I'm actually surprised on how fast they were able to find the "anonymous" stream in Korea.
Chill-leader Set plz
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
August 21 2010 10:58 GMT
#5
KeSPA has a bad attitude against the people who own the original rights to Starcraft and actually created the game. I don't care how much they've put in to the eSports community, they've been huge dicks about control, shutting down GOM streaming Brood War and trying to win the game's rights. They deserve it, and they're just butt-hurt now.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
GodIsNotHere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada395 Posts
August 21 2010 10:58 GMT
#6
On August 21 2010 19:56 SmoKim wrote:
yes it is

KeSPA > Bnet 2.0, atleast they could play that match again

fucking ridiculous

But srly guys Bnets so amazing with all its features that will make you want to always be connected!... OH WAIT!
In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Goodwill.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
August 21 2010 10:58 GMT
#7
Why do I get the feeling they were just waiting to shut the showmatch before it even started.
decemvre
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania639 Posts
August 21 2010 10:59 GMT
#8
War on KeSPA, here we go... ^.^/
decemberTV
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
August 21 2010 10:59 GMT
#9
NaDa was severly behind he lost more than 10 SCVs in TLO's harassment and was behind in units with TLO's death push on its way.

Kind of a dickish move by KeSPA though.
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
t3tsubo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada682 Posts
August 21 2010 10:59 GMT
#10
NOOO don't close this thread, people who didn't stay up to watch have to know of the travesty!!!
Motion
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany183 Posts
August 21 2010 11:00 GMT
#11
On August 21 2010 19:56 SmoKim wrote:
yes it is

KeSPA > Bnet 2.0, atleast they could play that match again

fucking ridiculous


I was waiting for that match all day long and now this.. the first 2 games were very interesting!
http://www.gentle-nerds.com
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 21 2010 11:00 GMT
#12
On August 21 2010 19:58 GodIsNotHere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 19:56 SmoKim wrote:
yes it is

KeSPA > Bnet 2.0, atleast they could play that match again

fucking ridiculous

But srly guys Bnets so amazing with all its features that will make you want to always be connected!... OH WAIT!


don't get me wrong, Bnet have shown TWICE in IEM now that it's fail in terms of E-sport im just saying that what KeSPA did was far more bullshit
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
torm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada274 Posts
August 21 2010 11:01 GMT
#13
it's a little unclear what exactly kespa did, could someone elaborate?
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
August 21 2010 11:01 GMT
#14
Wait what exactly do you mean by block the match. Did they ban the esl site or what.
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 11:03:09
August 21 2010 11:02 GMT
#15
And NOW I fully understand why Blizzard didn't want to negotiate with KeSPA

Makes me support any Blizzard decisions x100 times more even if that means profit for Activision.

On August 21 2010 20:01 G3nXsiS wrote:
Wait what exactly do you mean by block the match. Did they ban the esl site or what.


I missed match because I was busy, but people said KeSPA forced NADA to GG out of the game.
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
August 21 2010 11:02 GMT
#16
On August 21 2010 20:01 G3nXsiS wrote:
Wait what exactly do you mean by block the match. Did they ban the esl site or what.


They just cancelled the showmatch. NaDa GG'd and they stopped the showmatch.
this game is a fucking jokie
buKe
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada168 Posts
August 21 2010 11:02 GMT
#17
kespa is just preserving its position in esports. they have the big names and if blizzard wants those names to take part in sc2 they need to throw kespa a bone. i would do the same if i was kespa, its business and kespa is a huge organization employing lots of people, their not gonna lose their jobs without a fight.

and i think we'd all prefer kespa to have all control of esports and blizzard can go make another wow expansion, because honestly kespa actually cares about esports.
BattleSheen
Profile Joined April 2010
United States58 Posts
August 21 2010 11:03 GMT
#18
can someone explain a little in depth about what just happened? how does kespa have control over what is streamed in korea? how are they able to stifle sc2?
Nuclear Launch Detected
GodIsNotHere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada395 Posts
August 21 2010 11:05 GMT
#19
On August 21 2010 20:00 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 19:58 GodIsNotHere wrote:
On August 21 2010 19:56 SmoKim wrote:
yes it is

KeSPA > Bnet 2.0, atleast they could play that match again

fucking ridiculous

But srly guys Bnets so amazing with all its features that will make you want to always be connected!... OH WAIT!


don't get me wrong, Bnet have shown TWICE in IEM now that it's fail in terms of E-sport im just saying that what KeSPA did was far more bullshit

Lol agreed I'm just showing my general feelings of being unimpressed with Bnet2.0
In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Goodwill.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51581 Posts
August 21 2010 11:05 GMT
#20
On August 21 2010 19:57 GreenFantastic wrote:
I'm actually surprised on how fast they were able to find the "anonymous" stream in Korea.


it was probably streamed on afreeca, basically korea's livestream, and stuff spreads like wildfire over there.
Commentator
1 2 3 4 5 26 27 28 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
#5
RotterdaM724
TKL 208
IndyStarCraft 188
SteadfastSC151
Rex111
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 724
Lowko364
DeMusliM 293
TKL 208
IndyStarCraft 188
SteadfastSC 151
ProTech127
Rex 111
elazer 52
Codebar 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 47637
Jaedong 2435
Horang2 2273
Bisu 1372
Soma 729
Mini 589
Snow 521
Stork 493
firebathero 467
actioN 429
[ Show more ]
Light 395
Larva 320
Hyuk 291
ggaemo 262
Rush 232
Soulkey 218
Zeus 211
hero 201
Last 186
Pusan 92
Hyun 69
[sc1f]eonzerg 59
PianO 57
Hm[arnc] 41
sorry 41
Shinee 40
Aegong 36
Barracks 34
ToSsGirL 31
Sharp 28
Free 26
HiyA 20
Movie 20
Terrorterran 16
Noble 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
soO 14
Bale 11
Sacsri 10
ivOry 2
Dota 2
420jenkins249
League of Legends
Reynor51
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1899
x6flipin299
Other Games
singsing1879
B2W.Neo1092
hiko544
Mew2King60
markeloff47
QueenE46
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV2189
Counter-Strike
PGL140
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 43
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis1692
• TFBlade1303
• Jankos1040
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 36m
The PondCast
20h 36m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
21h 36m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 10h
Escore
1d 20h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 21h
OSC
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
3 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Ladder Legends
4 days
BSL
4 days
IPSL
4 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-13
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.