Pick Your Power Mafia!

On May 03 2010 19:26 Radfield wrote:
Stupid. I thought we had another 24hrs to vote.

As far as the inventor goes. It seems like there are two possible routes. Protection from mafia(bulletproof vests) or Detective kits. With the mafia only at a KP of 1, and the SK being able to shoot through vests, detective kits seem like a much better option. If we can get a bunch of detective kits out and about, it will make us much more likely to win. Keeping in mind that we possibly have a completely useless alignment cop, and Zona's 5:1 claim, lots of dt kits are probably our surest way towards a victory.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't be creative though. Ideally you would combine the two roles in a sweet-ass invention. Like some sort of security robot who can protect you at night and be sent out to investigate during the day. The robot could capture everyone who visits you at night and force them to reveal their role/alignment. Etc

On May 04 2010 14:13 Korynne wrote:
Hmmm, this further increases my suspicion of BM/Foolishness.
I'm assuming d3 could've died trying to protect one of them.

Well now that mafia copy cat has a nub weak doctor role...

Can someone claim alignment on BM/Foolishness? I guess it's a bad idea to reveal your role so soon though. =\

FoS on BM/Foolishness, but certainly don't want to lynch the wrong one here. =\

Cellphone seems like a reasonable invention, given that mafia wouldn't need a cell to PM each other. If inventor tries to give the invention to someone who died during the night (ex. d3) is the invention basically wasted?

On May 04 2010 14:46 johnnyspazz wrote:
i'm guessing his cellphone allows you to pm people
one of the hits wasn't mafia, i'm guessing SK killed caller and mafia hit d3? after all, assuming the mafia has copycat, why would they hit caller?

On May 04 2010 21:08 Radfield wrote:
OK, no excuses for not voting today folks.

Looking through the thread, an obvious target has emerged. However, I'm assuming that no one has blatently lied so far about their role. Even if that's the case, we will quickly be able to find the liar. So for the moment I'm going to treat everyone's comments about themselves as FACTS.

Facts: d3 and caller are dead
Facts: Qatal, Korynne, Opz and possibly Falcynn(he's been a touch ambiguous) have no role
Facts: Bill Murray is the Inventor and therefore Foolishness is the CompVig
Facts: Someone took Copy Cat before Qatol, this person is likely mafia.
Facts: Hobbes has a "fun, fun role", probably not Copy Cat,

# Bill Murray - Inventor
# Foolishness - CompVig
# Korynne - VANILLA
# Falcynn - VANILLA
# [NyC]HoBbes - Fun Role(Not Copy Cat)
# ~Opz~ - VANILLA
# d3_crescentia - DEAD(Medic)
# Caller - DEAD(VANILLA)
# sidesprang - ?????Copy Cat?????????
# Qatol - VANILLA

Assuming these are all facts, we've just found a mafia! Of course, these are not facts, and someone could be lying. But this gives us a great place to start.

Lets assume we lynch Sidesprang, 1 of 2 things happen:
1. He is anti-town. HOORAY!
2. He is pro-town. WHOOPS

If he is pro-town, all of a sudden the finger has to be pointed elsewhere:

1. Qatol: He's lying about someone else claiming Copy Cat
2. Someone who claimed Vanilla is lying: Korynne, Opz or Falcynn
2a Both Korynne and Opz claimed they tried for CompVig(this situation needs to be analyzed closer) but it lends a tad of credibility.
2b Falcynn wishy washily claimed VANILLA without actually doing it
3 Hobbes actually took Copy Cat and then posted as a "fun role" to allay suspicion. This seems least likely; being high up in the draft he had no need to take Copy Cat.


I think this is a great place to start. If I've made a mistake up to now someone please point it out.

So, with Sidesprang as a suspect, lets look at his posting history





Hmm, only two posts of any substance, and only 4 posts the entire thread. Both posts read like scum if you ask me. First post has a lot of words but little substance. Second post is mainly regurgitated obvious pro-town stuff, with a vote for the most inactive person. Also, Amnesia does NOT look fishy, he looks inactive.

Now whether you are or are not Mafia Sidesprang, your actions and the claims of others paint you out to be one.

Once again, this is a starting point folks.

##Vote Sidesprang ##

On May 04 2010 21:43 Radfield wrote:
Just remembered we need to vote on Comp Vig hits as well. We all know who the CV is, so please play along Foolishness. There's no point in hiding it anymore, if I can figure it out, anyone can. If you are NOT the CV Foolishness, you need to let us know, because that pegs Korynne as a liar. (Again, I'm running on the assumption that Bill is Inventor, which is highly likely at this point, and would be extremely risky for him to claim it if he's not)

Originally I was going to propose ~opz~ or Falycnn. As I thought they would be most likely to be lying about CopyCat if Sidespring flips green, but looking closer I don't think it likely that either are lying. I really believe that Sidesprang WILL flip red, and at this point I think if he flips green we hit Qatol. BUT, I don't think we should hit Qatol until we find out Sidesprang's alignment. Which means we shouldn't use our CompVig hit on Qatol.

Honestly, I don't think Qatol is mafia either at this point. If the Day Vig hit Sidesprang today, that would make this easier. If Sidesprang flips green, we start hitting the people who claimed VANILLA. Worse case we kill VANILLA townies, best case we hit mafia. If Sidesprang flips red, we celebrate and move on.

Obivously we don't want to waste our DayVig, but this seems like a decent time to use it. If people disagree please voice it. However, our DayVig is likely near the top of the list, which means they might not live long anyways. Hobbes, I think you're the DayVig, and I also think it likely you will be targeted soon. You're one of the few people at the top of the list who has a role. You are not the Inventor or CV so you won't get medic protection. Lastly, you claimed a 'fun, fun role' which makes you a mafia target. I'm kinda hoping you actually chose Meth Man and then posted 'fun, fun role' in an effort to get yourself hit by mafia. If so you're awesome. But if not, you need to use you're ability while you still can.

Please speak up people, I think my reasoning here is sound, but I'm open to other suggestions.

On May 04 2010 22:48 Radfield wrote:


More importantly Citizen, Are you going to vote Sidesprang?

We learn a lot more with him than anyone else at the moment. If he flips green, we KNOW someone has lied and we have the likely candidates of ~opz~, Qatol and Falcynn.

Think about it though, Sidesprang is the perfect distance down to pick CopyCat. Not high enough to get a great role, and just high enough to beat out Qatol. The perfect spot to take that pick if you're mafia and have 4 slots.

On May 05 2010 00:46 Falcynn wrote:
Although yeah, I kind of agree with not hitting Qatol with our CV yet...

On May 05 2010 01:02 ~OpZ~ wrote:

You see what I'm saying? -_-
And dropping Korynne from his earlier list. Shit, I didn't even read the thread yet, before my picks..

Actually...

Good point Falcynn. Let's see what role foolishness is.

## VoteKorynne ##

He's claimed vanilla also, why isn't he a decent target....Other than sidesprang not talking. I truly don't care about sidesprang, I'll vote for him if I must, but I'm not going to be led like a sheep by someone that screams suspiciousness at me.

On May 05 2010 01:30 Radfield wrote:



If he did that then it was awfully anti-town. Qatol stated he was going for the copy-cat, why would another town player swipe it right before him instead of grabbing another useful role? It doesn't make any sense.

But yeah, if he flops town aligned copy-cat that sucks, but he deserves it for screwing over the town plan.

On May 05 2010 05:41 Korynne wrote:


Okay seriously OpZ you need to read, or be more clear.

A weak doctor died, which means that he could've tried to protect a mafia and got killed. Seeing as how we're all like PROTECT BM AND FOOLISHNESS, d3 could've died protecting one of them. I'm not implying BM or Foolishness should've died, I'm saying d3 could've died trying to protect one of them if they are mafia. Granted, SK probably killed someone and mafia killed someone but then again one of their kills could've been blocked so who knows...

Also citi.zen, why do you vote for killing me out of me OpZ and Falcynn, I have no opposition to you killing me for information (finding out that BM/Foolishness is mafia/compvig) but you didn't state a reasoning.

On May 05 2010 06:54 DarthThienAn wrote:


lol. Korynne, that doesn't tell us anything, why'd you roleclaim?



Opz is also suspicious to me though. He claims he went for CompVig AFTER Korynne already stated that she went for it and failed - not only is that a useless roleclaim, but it's completely un-confirmable, which makes me think he might be lying. Well, you can confirm with a Role Check but that requires the Role Cop to claim, which obviously is not a good idea. His pointing out that going CC is retarded makes that just a little bit more suspicious, trying to cover his tracks and whatnot. He's also been (in general) against most of what the town has been saying, and without much justification, which is scummy to me.

Definitely agree with the CV at night deal.

I have a question though (read Qatol's post), who are we lynching? He/Rad I think suggested Day Vig'ing sidesprang and then lynching someone else? And what do we do in the case that no one picked Day Vig?

Back to reading that essay -_-

On May 05 2010 07:02 DarthThienAn wrote:
@giving people vests, it makes mafia immune to serial killer kills as well... which is a luck-based thing, but IT STILL PROTECTS THEM at night. So I think we need something more creative that just bulletproof vests =[. The alternative is doing it anyway and assuming our information will get better if we delay the game. But we don't really want to save mafia - I can see this still being done, but there's gotta be something better, any ideas? >_>

Also, do we want to take a closer look at the inactive people? ie. Amnesia, who basically hasn't posted ANYTHING here. Read: mafia scum trying to hide and stay out of the spotlight, or: busy with life, and still useless -__-. Other players have been posting from time to time, although some of them post worthless these (maybe that includes me, from other's perspectives...)

I think there should be a way to work with that CV+medic dealio, but I'm gonna go back to the drawing board on that.