• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:42
CET 14:42
KST 22:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket7Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA12
StarCraft 2
General
SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating thread
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile [Game] Osu! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2136 users

[H] Zerglings running though unit walls

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Sid(TB)
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States314 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-12 18:01:51
March 12 2010 16:44 GMT
#1
*edit* http://www.mediafire.com/file/ytmyywjfjdi/2010-03-12 12-33-48.SC2Replay
heres a link to a replay of me testing various methods. big thanks to IDKanything for helping me out.

heres my post on the b.net forums
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23767637114&postId=237651584151&sid=5000#0

I think i did my topic title right, if im in the wrong spot if an admin could move me or change title thanks

ok, i know i have very few posts, but im currently around rank 8 in devision 1 plat as toss.

there was a post a little while back where someone showed zerglings can "push though" a roach wall by spamming right click past them. recently ive lost a few games to lings doing this vs zealots as well. so far ive done some tests and it seems zealot walls that are east/west

-----------------

^ like such, can be run by easily. how ever lines such that
|
|
|

^ etc have less lings running though. and also if i have buildings blocking most the path and just enough room for 2 zealots (not all maps let only 1 zealot walls) and they are north south style, with 2 lines (4 total zealots) it seemed to block them all.

however, the maps where 1 zealot walls work vs roachs/etc, lings can push past. so you need 2 minimum not counting this pushing though thing.

has anyone else expereinced problems with this? and found any better solutions? (besides sentries since they can't be early enough to stop ling all'ins)

honestly i think this is an issue as not all ramps allow north/south style zealot walls.

hope this post was well thought out enough.. and will enjoy some discussion on this.
rEAdY tO bE iNfEcTeD?
zentenk
Profile Joined February 2010
Hong Kong20 Posts
March 12 2010 16:56 GMT
#2
that's what I usually do, spam right click and they just go through
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
March 12 2010 16:56 GMT
#3
I've been doing 10gas 10pool 10ovie speedling build. Lots of protoss's wall in, but there is almost always a small hole where a stream of lings can go through even when a zealot or few are blocking. I've always assumed that they didn't know how to wall properly, but if what you say is true, it is probably a bug.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
zentenk
Profile Joined February 2010
Hong Kong20 Posts
March 12 2010 17:01 GMT
#4
On March 13 2010 01:56 RoieTRS wrote:
I've been doing 10gas 10pool 10ovie speedling build. Lots of protoss's wall in, but there is almost always a small hole where a stream of lings can go through even when a zealot or few are blocking. I've always assumed that they didn't know how to wall properly, but if what you say is true, it is probably a bug.


I think it might be a bug, if they're not blocking properly and there is a small hole then the lings should go through that hole in just one click. In this case with one click it wont budge at all and you need to continually spam move
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
March 12 2010 17:01 GMT
#5
I tested this out yesterday. You can go through a P wall only if you have enough lings (at least 16?). It's easier to go through the wall if the zeals are blocking a ramp like LT. You can still go through the wall if it's 1 zealot wide choke with 2 buildings, however they go through slower and u need many lings.
Sid(TB)
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States314 Posts
March 12 2010 17:08 GMT
#6
i just did it vs a friend of mine (i was doing the lings, he was walling for me) and i could get though east/west walls

--------
^ like that, with only 4-5 lings with only losing maybe 1.... and some how when the lings push though it seems to slow/stop the attack of zealots since they are on hold position.. making it so if you just ling all in (10+) vs his 3-4 zealots (teching or going warpgates or w/e) the games more or less instnatly over cuase they can push though and lose almost non.

ive noticed everyone who responded is zerg any protoss having better luck than me? cause i need 2 lines of zealots with them being north south only

|
|
|

^ etc to be effective, since lings can sometimes come earlyer than i can get a minimum of 4 zealots unless i crono (just in case they ling all in....) thanks for the responses everyone. lets keep thinking
rEAdY tO bE iNfEcTeD?
Sid(TB)
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States314 Posts
March 12 2010 17:37 GMT
#7
ok i just did more testing, and it seems the north/south thing does not work if they have more than 6 lings even if i have 8 lines (of course more lines of zealots more lings needed to push though but not by much) they even move the zealots to break apart the wall with out having to do any effort, just spam right click past. im going to be making a b.net forum post hoping this is a bug and not intended. ill put a link in my OP so you guys can post on there if you find this is unacceptable as well
rEAdY tO bE iNfEcTeD?
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 12 2010 17:39 GMT
#8
Pretty sure this is a glitch

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=115455
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8144 Posts
March 12 2010 17:41 GMT
#9
im wondering if this is a bug or if blizzard put it in on purpose.
Free Palestine
Sid(TB)
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States314 Posts
March 12 2010 17:47 GMT
#10
ah yes, thanks crate, thats the other post that got me thinking when i lost to this using zealots.
rEAdY tO bE iNfEcTeD?
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1111 Posts
March 12 2010 17:48 GMT
#11
They need to fix this and they probably will.
Playgu
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
March 12 2010 17:53 GMT
#12
On March 13 2010 02:41 Ideas wrote:
im wondering if this is a bug or if blizzard put it in on purpose.


you think blizzard intends to make it impossible to wall your ramp with zealots against zerglings?

Extremely doubtful.
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
Sohma
Profile Joined March 2010
France10 Posts
March 12 2010 17:58 GMT
#13
Yeah I saw that happening sometimes, clearly a bug.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
March 12 2010 18:04 GMT
#14
It's because the zerglings behind jump on top of the zerglings in front and either leap over or are launched over the unit wall. It makes perfect sense.
But why?
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
March 12 2010 18:11 GMT
#15
Yeah this definitely happened at Helm's deep when Mordor used its Sauron Zerg strategy via Saruman. I'm pretty sure it's an intentional addition.
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
Yamato
Profile Joined February 2010
United States33 Posts
March 12 2010 18:13 GMT
#16
On March 13 2010 03:04 EmeraldSparks wrote:
It's because the zerglings behind jump on top of the zerglings in front and either leap over or are launched over the unit wall. It makes perfect sense.


yea. will need stalkers to shoot them down in the air
Retsukage
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1002 Posts
March 12 2010 19:57 GMT
#17
well this makes me feel alot better about being amazed that billions of zerglings rush into my base, I just assumed I needed sentries
To change is to improve, to change often is to be perfect - Winston Chruchill
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
March 12 2010 23:46 GMT
#18
I'm pretty sure will probably be a bug of some sort. I mean, if you get a whole mass of zerglings and select them into one group then madly click on a single point the lings will squeeze themselves onto that point such that it's almost like the ones in the middle are practically stacking. The new unit AI is awesome, dont' get me wrong, but the potential for abuse of it is just huge.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
March 12 2010 23:51 GMT
#19
Has this been tested when the walling player spams hold position at the same time the zerg player spams right click? Maybe this could develop into a standard SC2 techinque?
P00RKID
Profile Joined December 2009
United States424 Posts
March 13 2010 10:20 GMT
#20
On March 13 2010 08:51 0neder wrote:
Has this been tested when the walling player spams hold position at the same time the zerg player spams right click? Maybe this could develop into a standard SC2 techinque?


Micro potential? Hope they don't remove all bugs before we think of things like 0neder said.
"Does your butt hurt? 'cause you fell from heaven once the cast was over?" Artosis
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #231
SteadfastSC83
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko547
RotterdaM 149
SteadfastSC 83
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 54782
Rain 3722
Calm 3138
Sea 1976
Soulkey 1009
Larva 953
firebathero 684
Mini 445
EffOrt 308
BeSt 294
[ Show more ]
Snow 287
Zeus 287
PianO 226
Soma 185
ZerO 145
Last 142
Pusan 95
Light 95
Rush 93
hero 80
Hyun 69
Backho 53
Sea.KH 48
ToSsGirL 38
Aegong 35
yabsab 32
soO 32
Movie 31
Shine 26
Terrorterran 24
Noble 23
Icarus 21
scan(afreeca) 19
HiyA 17
ivOry 7
Dota 2
Gorgc4139
singsing2108
qojqva1483
Dendi658
XcaliburYe173
League of Legends
KnowMe15
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2023
x6flipin613
byalli204
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr20
Other Games
B2W.Neo1638
crisheroes484
hiko350
Mew2King116
ArmadaUGS84
oskar55
nookyyy 27
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream13492
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1788
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 627
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 11
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2282
• WagamamaTV209
League of Legends
• Jankos1545
• Nemesis1241
• TFBlade739
• Stunt660
• HappyZerGling225
Upcoming Events
BSL: GosuLeague
7h 18m
RSL Revival
17h 48m
Zoun vs Classic
SHIN vs TriGGeR
herO vs Reynor
Maru vs MaxPax
WardiTV Korean Royale
22h 18m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
RSL Revival
1d 17h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 22h
IPSL
2 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
BSL 21
2 days
TerrOr vs Aeternum
HBO vs Kyrie
RSL Revival
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
3 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
BSL 21
3 days
StRyKeR vs Artosis
OyAji vs KameZerg
Replay Cast
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-16
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.