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Terran Walling on Eye of the Storm

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Mightus
Profile Joined September 2009
United States16 Posts
January 31 2010 04:56 GMT
#1
I was practicing walling today on the map eye of the storm, trying to find the proper wall positions and memorizing them. You can make ling tight walls in top left, top right and bottom left, but i was incapable of creating a wall that was ling tight in the bottom right. (Keep in mind i am walling in the natural expo too.) Does anyone know how to do this? PS Are some maps just imbalanced where you can only have ling tight walls in certain positions and you have to adjust your strat accordingly?
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
January 31 2010 08:13 GMT
#2
On January 31 2010 13:56 Mightus wrote:
Are some maps just imbalanced where you can only have ling tight walls in certain positions and you have to adjust your strat accordingly?


Yes.
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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 08:33:34
January 31 2010 08:31 GMT
#3
Yes, but you can just build tightly around your mineral line, or defend your ramp with marines and 1-2 SCVs. And usually even if you can't build a ling-tight wall, you can build one with very few points of entry that you can easily block with units.

Often, Terran players prefer their wall to have one marine-sized hole in the wall, so that they don't have to lift their barracks.
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LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
January 31 2010 08:50 GMT
#4
op is talking about walling at nat, so ling tight would be very useful.
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CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 13:43:21
January 31 2010 13:42 GMT
#5
Hmm I tried really hard but couldn't find a way to wall there

This is a nice wall tho you can depot barrack cc wall and its ling tight, and he tries run-by the gas is in a perfect position to use SCVs to drill:
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Edit: Heh wrong image size ^^;
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
January 31 2010 14:25 GMT
#6
On January 31 2010 22:42 CaffeineFree-_- wrote:
Hmm I tried really hard but couldn't find a way to wall there

This is a nice wall tho you can depot barrack cc wall and its ling tight, and he tries run-by the gas is in a perfect position to use SCVs to drill:
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Edit: Heh wrong image size ^^;

nice chrome skin, where did you get it?
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Mightus
Profile Joined September 2009
United States16 Posts
January 31 2010 21:08 GMT
#7
Yeah i was trying to wall it ling tight for quite a while. Thank you guys for the input! I appreciate it.
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 21:37:03
January 31 2010 21:19 GMT
#8
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This map is terrible for TvZ walls.
vRoOk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1024 Posts
January 31 2010 21:31 GMT
#9
hmm now i wonder if its possible
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Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
January 31 2010 21:54 GMT
#10
Hes trying to wall in the natural too so you gotta do more like...

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that should be ling tight
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
January 31 2010 22:17 GMT
#11
On February 01 2010 06:54 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
Hes trying to wall in the natural too so you gotta do more like...

[image loading]


that should be ling tight


Umm, dosen't look like it, depots must be directly above one another to be ling tight, there they are side by side (then again, I would need to test it...).
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R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
February 01 2010 00:56 GMT
#12
You have to wall-in with factories. Or a 3rd depot at 5 works too. However, I couldn't seem to be able to wall 1 with depots or facts. How do you wall the nat there?
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CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
February 01 2010 01:02 GMT
#13
On February 01 2010 06:54 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
Hes trying to wall in the natural too so you gotta do more like...

[image loading]


that should be ling tight

Nope thats a anti-zealot wall but marines can fit in that depot pattern so zerglings do as well ^^;

Great post Shake
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nujgnoy
Profile Joined December 2009
United States204 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-01 01:36:59
February 01 2010 01:28 GMT
#14
It's possible, just not in the traditional sense of 1~2 depot + rax.

All types of buildable terrains are wallable if the edge can be shut tight.

Having said that, I can make a ling tight wall with 3 depot + rax and 2 depot + rax + turret that covers the natural.

I have the screenshots on my comp; if someone gives me a really easy link to upload pics I'll upload them!

EDIT: Also, it's really easy with 1 rax + 1 fact, if your build involves facts.

EDIT again : You can even do it with 1 bunker and 2 depots. You lose the ability to go out yourself conveniently (you could probably load/unload your infantry), but it's the cheapest wall. If I sense an early ling allin I might use this so that my marines can pop out safe in my base (since raxwalls here would make marines pop out...but let me see if I can fix this).

Final EDIT: OK, so you can make a ling tight wall with 3 depots and 1 rax that has the marine pop inside. The only thing to be careful of is that one ling can touch the marine although it can't pass through. As long as you move your marines away you should be 100% secure.

I guess my point through these edits is that learn the basics of walling and you can wall any territory you want using your creativity (as long as edges are securable that is).
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 02 2010 09:30 GMT
#15
On February 01 2010 10:28 nujgnoy wrote:
It's possible, just not in the traditional sense of 1~2 depot + rax.

All types of buildable terrains are wallable if the edge can be shut tight.

Having said that, I can make a ling tight wall with 3 depot + rax and 2 depot + rax + turret that covers the natural.

I have the screenshots on my comp; if someone gives me a really easy link to upload pics I'll upload them!

EDIT: Also, it's really easy with 1 rax + 1 fact, if your build involves facts.

EDIT again : You can even do it with 1 bunker and 2 depots. You lose the ability to go out yourself conveniently (you could probably load/unload your infantry), but it's the cheapest wall. If I sense an early ling allin I might use this so that my marines can pop out safe in my base (since raxwalls here would make marines pop out...but let me see if I can fix this).

Final EDIT: OK, so you can make a ling tight wall with 3 depots and 1 rax that has the marine pop inside. The only thing to be careful of is that one ling can touch the marine although it can't pass through. As long as you move your marines away you should be 100% secure.

I guess my point through these edits is that learn the basics of walling and you can wall any territory you want using your creativity (as long as edges are securable that is).


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nujgnoy
Profile Joined December 2009
United States204 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-04 06:48:23
February 04 2010 06:47 GMT
#16
Hi everyone,

Sorry for the late post; I've been having tests and just focusing on the thread I started.

Here are the SS's (although the 1st one with 3depots +rax with marine inside is probably the best one, I uploaded all three anyways). They are all ling-tight.

http://img229.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=scscrnshot013110172400.png
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