• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:44
CEST 16:44
KST 23:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall9HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL54Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?13FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event16Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster16Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Statistics for vetoed/disliked maps Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form? PiG Sty Festival #5: Playoffs Preview + Groups Recap The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Korean Starcraft League Week 77 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady
Brood War
General
Replays question Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL BW General Discussion Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Grand Finals - Sunday 20:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Blogs
Culture Clash in Video Games…
TrAiDoS
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 661 users

[Fantasy] PL 09-10 R2 Signups

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 23 24 25 Next All
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 03:22:57
November 30 2009 20:09 GMT
#1
[image loading]

>>> Click Here to Sign Up for FPL R2 <<<


Play Fantasy Proleague! It's fun, easy, and makes watching Proleague much more exciting. You don't need to spend any time on managing your team during the season if you don't want to. If you don't fully understand the rules, don't worry. The basic thing to remember is, pick players for your "Main Team" that you think will do well, and pick players for your "Anti Team" who you think will do poorly.



New Scoring

Player Scoring:
Regular Game Win: 4 Points
Regular Game Loss: -2 Points
Ace Match Appearance: 2 Points
Ace Match Win: 4 Points
Ace Match Loss: 0 Points
3-Game Win Streak: 2 Points
6-Game Win Streak: 3 Points
9-Game Win Streak: 4 Points
Your Player's Team Wins: 1 Point
Your Player Doesn't Play: 1 Point (for 3-0 or 0-3 score)

Team Scoring:
3-0 Victory: 6 Points
3-1 Victory: 4 Points
3-2 Victory: 2 Points
2-3 Defeat: 0 Point
1-3 Defeat: -1 Points
0-3 Defeat: -2 Points

Miscellaneous
Trade Tax: -1



Differences From Last Round

Differences
  • Removed lineup appearance point and streak break point
  • Win and loss values are doubled
  • Ace Selection still worth 2 points
  • Streaks still worth 2/3/4 points for 3/6/9 games
  • Your player's team winning still worth 1 point
  • Team scoring modified

Analysis
The big difference are that there no longer is a lineup appearance point. This means that for your Main Team, picking players that win (rather than that just play often) matters a lot more. It also means that Anti-Team is no longer a hunt for players who do not play (though this is certainly a possible strategy). Thus, your Anti Team could actually be positive if you pick many losers.

Round 1 Scoring (OLD): + Show Spoiler [Show] +
Player Scoring:
Non-Ace Lineup Appearance: 1 Point
Game Win (Ace included): 2 Points
Game Loss (Ace included): -1 Points
Ace Match Appearance: 2 Points
3-Game Win Streak: 1 Point
6-Game Win Streak: 2 Points
9-Game Win Streak: 3 Points
Break Another's Streak: 1 Point
Your Player's Team Wins: 1 Point

Team Scoring:
3-0 Victory: 7 Points
3-1 Victory: 5 Points
3-2 Victory: 4 Points
2-3 Defeat: 1 Point
1-3 Defeat: -1 Points
0-3 Defeat: -2 Points



How to Play
  • You choose 6 players and 1 Pro Team that score points when they play well.
  • You pick 3 players that lose you points when they play well.
  • Players and teams can be traded between weeks for those valued less than them.


Team Selection

Main Team
  • Pick 6 players for your Main Team, including a captain who will be a tiebreaker
  • Pick 1 Proleague team (i.e. STX, CJ, SKT)
  • You cannot trade your captain (more on trading later)
  • Your 6 players and 1 Proleague team cannot exceed 30 points in cost
  • Your Main Team must contain at least one of each race at all times

Anti Team
  • Pick 3 players for your Anti Team
  • These players will score points just like Main Team players, but their score counts against you
  • Your Anti Team must have a value of at least 13 points (minimum)

Basic Team Selection Strategy
  • Pick players for your Main Team who you believe will exceed their point value from last round (underrated or rising players)
  • Pick players for your Anti Team who you believe will do worse than they did last round (overrated or slumping players)
  • Designate as Captain a player who you believe will be a lock to be good throughout the season, because you can't trade him


Trading

Trading Rules
  • Each week you can trade players (swap a player for someone you don't have)
  • Every player has a trade value, and you can only trade for players of lower value
  • You will be limited to a maximum 2 Main Team and 1 Anti Team trades per week
  • Trades do not carry over if unused
  • Each time you trade, your team will be assessed a -1 point trade tax

Basic Trading Strategy
  • Check lineups each week! Players in the lineup, especially twice, are usually worth trading for
  • Don't make trades just for sake of making trades, as they cost you trade tax points and you may get stuck with a player you don't want
  • The trade price formula takes into account number of matches remaining -- so players with more matches remaining will have higher prices
  • You must trade for players with less value, but try to minimize the value loss. For example, if you trade someone worth 30 for someone worth 20, next week you can only trade the 20 for someone less. It's much better to trade the 30 for someone worth 29.


Groups

You will be able to create and join groups so you can compare your results with a smaller subset of the players, for example there might be a Staff Group, a First Time FPL Group, a USA Players Group, or a group created by you with just your friends.




Click Here for Player and Team Prices




Good luck in Round 2, and tell your friends when signups open!
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 20:17:28
November 30 2009 20:14 GMT
#2
oh wow, excitement

also, i really like the changes to point scoring, particularly the potential to score positive points on my anti-team
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 30 2009 20:15 GMT
#3
How exactly are the player costs going to be calculated?
Is it just going to be their trade value rounded to the nearest integer?
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
November 30 2009 20:17 GMT
#4
I will actually try this round Watch out IntoTheWow!
Writer
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 20:18:23
November 30 2009 20:17 GMT
#5
On December 01 2009 05:15 Jyvblamo wrote:
How exactly are the player costs going to be calculated?
Is it just going to be their trade value rounded to the nearest integer?

Yes, it will be based off Round 1 performance but adjusted using the new scoring system (so its more accurate).

Feel free to calculate player costs right now if you wish -- we'll have a full list out sometime after the Round 1 matches finish tonight.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
November 30 2009 20:20 GMT
#6
oh wow that's huge changes, player losing now ain't covered with the lineup appearance :o
i really think the changes are good, especially lowering the team scoring a bit.

though choosing a good team is still important as going 2-3 now gives nothing and goind 0-3 still hurts!

i feel like the changes make this even more difficult, definitely requires more skill now!

when does the R2 actually start? like in december or in January 2010?

Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
DoubIe_O
Profile Joined May 2009
Austria234 Posts
November 30 2009 20:22 GMT
#7
Finaly it will pay off to have players in your anti-team that are in a slump or not playing
"Hence to fight and conquer in all you battles is not considered as surpreme excellence, surpreme excellence consists in breaking the enemies resistance without fighting"; Sun Zu
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
November 30 2009 20:22 GMT
#8
I believe round two starts next week.... doesnt it?
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
November 30 2009 20:24 GMT
#9
Nice changes. My anti-team can actually give points now! I am still sticking with Khan for R2. GOOO KHAN
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
November 30 2009 20:24 GMT
#10
On December 01 2009 05:20 pripple wrote:
oh wow that's huge changes, player losing now ain't covered with the lineup appearance :o
i really think the changes are good, especially lowering the team scoring a bit.

though choosing a good team is still important as going 2-3 now gives nothing and goind 0-3 still hurts!

i feel like the changes make this even more difficult, definitely requires more skill now!

when does the R2 actually start? like in december or in January 2010?

Round 2 starts in four days, so signups will be open for 3 days

FAST TURNAROUND
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
November 30 2009 20:30 GMT
#11
On December 01 2009 05:24 Hot_Bid wrote:
Round 2 starts in four days, so signups will be open for 3 days

FAST TURNAROUND

not much of a break then ;p

but ye the changes are welcome, for example i had GoRush for the last 3 weeks or so just for the heck of it, he could surprise and all, next round he would've gained me like -10?
scary thoughts, man it's gonna be hard!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
November 30 2009 20:37 GMT
#12
I'm a bit confused, maybe just because it isn't written out or I'm not seeing it--how can the anti-team end up positive? Will you now gain points when they lose?
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
November 30 2009 20:41 GMT
#13
On December 01 2009 05:24 lone_hydra wrote:
I am still sticking with Khan for R2. GOOO KHAN

Famous last words.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
November 30 2009 20:45 GMT
#14
On December 01 2009 05:37 theqat wrote:
I'm a bit confused, maybe just because it isn't written out or I'm not seeing it--how can the anti-team end up positive? Will you now gain points when they lose?

Before, loss was worth -1 and lineup appearance worth 1, so if you picked a player who went 0-10, the best you would get is 0.

But since lineup point is removed, your 0-10 player is now going to score in the negatives, which means if he's on your Anti Team, he'll score in the positives.

Another way to look at it is that Main Team players can now score in the negatives
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
November 30 2009 20:46 GMT
#15
I really like these changes. Still hoping we can have a bank style trading system somewhere down the road, but I haven't even had the time to play let alone flesh out how I imagine it working.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
November 30 2009 20:47 GMT
#16
On December 01 2009 05:45 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 05:37 theqat wrote:
I'm a bit confused, maybe just because it isn't written out or I'm not seeing it--how can the anti-team end up positive? Will you now gain points when they lose?

Before, loss was worth -1 and lineup appearance worth 1, so if you picked a player who went 0-10, the best you would get is 0.

But since lineup point is removed, your 0-10 player is now going to score in the negatives, which means if he's on your Anti Team, he'll score in the positives.

Another way to look at it is that Main Team players can now score in the negatives


Oh, interesting. Well, this was my best FPL round yet (140 points wooo) and I intend to do better in this coming round. Bring on the sign-ups
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
November 30 2009 20:47 GMT
#17
whoa so soon!

sounds like redemption hehehe
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
November 30 2009 20:48 GMT
#18
On December 01 2009 05:37 theqat wrote:
I'm a bit confused, maybe just because it isn't written out or I'm not seeing it--how can the anti-team end up positive? Will you now gain points when they lose?



Before the change a player could never go below 0 because the worst that could happen was lineup (+1) and loss (-1) = 0.
So now that players can get negativ results, they could give you more points if they are in the anti team since minus minus is plus.
aka DTF-ZeRo
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
November 30 2009 20:51 GMT
#19
I feel bad that I didn't play this round. My favorite players did well this round so that they are high priced now. So for example having flash is probably not beneficial. And I hate having to pick players that I don't like that much.
aka DTF-ZeRo
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 20:52:43
November 30 2009 20:52 GMT
#20
I just thought about this some more... players' trade values will fluctuate a lot more than before since point ranges are more dynamic. How is the trade value formula going to change, if at all?
1 2 3 4 5 23 24 25 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 16m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 338
Hui .254
BRAT_OK 111
MindelVK 52
trigger 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 11104
Jaedong 2567
Horang2 2458
Flash 1628
Bisu 1394
Larva 1208
firebathero 1021
BeSt 948
Mini 906
hero 336
[ Show more ]
actioN 281
Hyun 187
Mind 150
Last 110
TY 101
sSak 76
GoRush 36
Mong 24
NaDa 11
HiyA 8
Rock 8
zelot 4
Dota 2
XcaliburYe416
canceldota136
LuMiX2
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor498
Other Games
Gorgc3839
singsing3222
B2W.Neo1278
DeMusliM655
Lowko333
Fuzer 248
KnowMe92
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV1113
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2913
• WagamamaTV627
League of Legends
• Nemesis8492
Upcoming Events
FEL
1h 16m
RSL Revival
19h 16m
Clem vs Classic
SHIN vs Cure
FEL
21h 16m
WardiTV European League
21h 16m
BSL: ProLeague
1d 3h
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV European League
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 2v2 Season 3
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025

Upcoming

2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.