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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 23:15:02
March 12 2011 23:12 GMT
#1761
Okay, I'll do the rest:

+ Show Spoiler +

"Suntory vending machines are free, Softbank WiFi spots are public. Everyone's cooperating, and the other nations are helping too. Compared to back during the Hanshin earthquake when people refused foreign aid and obstructed the Self Defense Force deployment, Japan's definitely become a stronger country."

"I talked to the night shift metro driver. 'Tough work, huh?' He smiled and said, 'well it's tough times!' He's cool."

"I walked 4 hours from the city center. The sidewalks were jammed with people, but it was orderly and silent. The shops were open, everyone working. The Internet infrastructure survived the shaking,
and people set up facilities to accommodate the stranded. The trains are running all night. Japan's amazing. Who cares what place we are in GDP."

"People of Japan, please don't lose kindness. Protect the weak, help each other, and have forgiveness. When you're worried, so too will those around you be. This is our wish. We here will do just the same." -- signed, Ultraman and staff

"My 2 year old son put on his shoes and just about wandered outside. 'I'm going to arrest the earthquake!', he says. Encouraging to see such courage and righteousness in such a small body. Be strong, everyone."

"On my 4 hour walk home, there was a woman with a sketchbook note written 'please feel free to use the washroom!' -- she was opening her washroom to the public. Japan must be the warmest country on earth. I was in tears."

"When there's a power outage, someone fixes it. When the water stops, someone fixes it. When there's a problem at the nuclear plants, someone goes to fix it. These things don't just fix themselves. While we're sitting in our rooms going 'hurry up dammit', there are people out there in the freezing cold putting their lives on the line to set shit straight for us."


Tokyo's normally known for being horribly cold, with people never talking to strangers. "So many people, yet so lonely" as people often put it. Maybe that'll change a little.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 12 2011 23:13 GMT
#1762
On March 13 2011 08:07 VManOfMana wrote:
This is ridiculous. CNN keeps pushing the word "meltdown" in the headlines while repeatedly asking the Japanese Ambassador if there is one. Chernobyl comparisons included.


Just don't even bother with the large company American news media. Not worth it anymore.
Vaeila
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands336 Posts
March 12 2011 23:19 GMT
#1763
On March 13 2011 08:12 dump wrote:
Okay, I'll do the rest:

+ Show Spoiler +

"Suntory vending machines are free, Softbank WiFi spots are public. Everyone's cooperating, and the other nations are helping too. Compared to back during the Hanshin earthquake when people refused foreign aid and obstructed the Self Defense Force deployment, Japan's definitely become a stronger country."

"I talked to the night shift metro driver. 'Tough work, huh?' He smiled and said, 'well it's tough times!' He's cool."

"I walked 4 hours from the city center. The sidewalks were jammed with people, but it was orderly and silent. The shops were open, everyone working. The Internet infrastructure survived the shaking,
and people set up facilities to accommodate the stranded. The trains are running all night. Japan's amazing. Who cares what place we are in GDP."

"People of Japan, please don't lose kindness. Protect the weak, help each other, and have forgiveness. When you're worried, so too will those around you be. This is our wish. We here will do just the same." -- signed, Ultraman and staff

"My 2 year old son put on his shoes and just about wandered outside. 'I'm going to arrest the earthquake!', he says. Encouraging to see such courage and righteousness in such a small body. Be strong, everyone."

"On my 4 hour walk home, there was a woman with a sketchbook note written 'please feel free to use the washroom!' -- she was opening her washroom to the public. Japan must be the warmest country on earth. I was in tears."

"When there's a power outage, someone fixes it. When the water stops, someone fixes it. When there's a problem at the nuclear plants, someone goes to fix it. These things don't just fix themselves. While we're sitting in our rooms going 'hurry up dammit', there are people out there in the freezing cold putting their lives on the line to set shit straight for us."


Tokyo's normally known for being horribly cold, with people never talking to strangers. "So many people, yet so lonely" as people often put it. Maybe that'll change a little.


Its heartwarming to hear that instead of looting and stealing and bashing eachothers skulls the Japanese are helping eachother and trying to get through this as one.
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
March 12 2011 23:36 GMT
#1764
On March 13 2011 08:12 dump wrote:
Okay, I'll do the rest:

+ Show Spoiler +

"Suntory vending machines are free, Softbank WiFi spots are public. Everyone's cooperating, and the other nations are helping too. Compared to back during the Hanshin earthquake when people refused foreign aid and obstructed the Self Defense Force deployment, Japan's definitely become a stronger country."

"I talked to the night shift metro driver. 'Tough work, huh?' He smiled and said, 'well it's tough times!' He's cool."

"I walked 4 hours from the city center. The sidewalks were jammed with people, but it was orderly and silent. The shops were open, everyone working. The Internet infrastructure survived the shaking,
and people set up facilities to accommodate the stranded. The trains are running all night. Japan's amazing. Who cares what place we are in GDP."

"People of Japan, please don't lose kindness. Protect the weak, help each other, and have forgiveness. When you're worried, so too will those around you be. This is our wish. We here will do just the same." -- signed, Ultraman and staff

"My 2 year old son put on his shoes and just about wandered outside. 'I'm going to arrest the earthquake!', he says. Encouraging to see such courage and righteousness in such a small body. Be strong, everyone."

"On my 4 hour walk home, there was a woman with a sketchbook note written 'please feel free to use the washroom!' -- she was opening her washroom to the public. Japan must be the warmest country on earth. I was in tears."

"When there's a power outage, someone fixes it. When the water stops, someone fixes it. When there's a problem at the nuclear plants, someone goes to fix it. These things don't just fix themselves. While we're sitting in our rooms going 'hurry up dammit', there are people out there in the freezing cold putting their lives on the line to set shit straight for us."


Tokyo's normally known for being horribly cold, with people never talking to strangers. "So many people, yet so lonely" as people often put it. Maybe that'll change a little.


Thank you for the translation. Hope this serves as an example to people everywhere.
@
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 00:08:21
March 12 2011 23:56 GMT
#1765
On March 13 2011 08:04 Southlight wrote:
I'm still waiting for one


YES finally after like 40 hours we've gotten word from her.

Edit:
Or rather, from her school, but that's close enough, for now.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
March 13 2011 00:15 GMT
#1766
On March 13 2011 08:56 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 08:04 Southlight wrote:
I'm still waiting for one


YES finally after like 40 hours we've gotten word from her.

Edit:
Or rather, from her school, but that's close enough, for now.


That's hopeful news. Was she at the school at that moment? If so then I'm sure she'll be okay if the school is okay
Pokemon Master
Siretu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
151 Posts
March 13 2011 00:16 GMT
#1767
I was on a two week trip to Japan so I was there when the tsunami hit. Although I was in Kobe at the time so I didn't even feel the quake. Good thing I started in Tokyo instead of ending there.

I'm back in Sweden now and the trip to Japan was still fantastic.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
March 13 2011 00:23 GMT
#1768
It seems like around 170,000 people have been evacuated from the area around the Fukushima plant that suffered an explosion. Thankfully, the reactor seems be intact according to the authorities. Let's hope it stays that way. A Chernobyl in the middle of all this devastation would be unimaginably horrific.

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12724953
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5101 Posts
March 13 2011 00:26 GMT
#1769
Japan gov't is releasing information in a trickle...

In Japan plant, frantic efforts to avoid meltdown (AP)

TOKYO (AP) -- Inside the troubled nuclear power plant, officials knew the risks were high when they decided to vent radioactive steam from a severely overheated reactor vessel. They knew a hydrogen explosion could occur, and it did. The decision still trumped the worst-case alternative - total nuclear meltdown.

At least for the time being.

(...)

Without power, and without plant pipes and pumps that were destroyed in the explosion of the most-troubled reactor's containment building, authorities resorted to drawing seawater in an attempt to cool off the overheated uranium fuel rods.

Robert Alvarez, senior scholar at the Institute for Policy Studies and former senior policy adviser to the U.S. secretary of energy, said in a briefing for reporters that the seawater was a desperate measure.

"It's a Hail Mary pass," he said.
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 13 2011 00:32 GMT
#1770
On March 13 2011 09:26 a-game wrote:
Japan gov't is releasing information in a trickle...

In Japan plant, frantic efforts to avoid meltdown (AP)

Show nested quote +
TOKYO (AP) -- Inside the troubled nuclear power plant, officials knew the risks were high when they decided to vent radioactive steam from a severely overheated reactor vessel. They knew a hydrogen explosion could occur, and it did. The decision still trumped the worst-case alternative - total nuclear meltdown.

At least for the time being.

(...)

Without power, and without plant pipes and pumps that were destroyed in the explosion of the most-troubled reactor's containment building, authorities resorted to drawing seawater in an attempt to cool off the overheated uranium fuel rods.

Robert Alvarez, senior scholar at the Institute for Policy Studies and former senior policy adviser to the U.S. secretary of energy, said in a briefing for reporters that the seawater was a desperate measure.

"It's a Hail Mary pass," he said.


+ Show Spoiler +
He said that the success of using seawater and boron to cool the reactor will depend on the volume and rate of their distribution. He said the dousing would need to continue nonstop for days.

...

If the reactor core became exposed to the external environment, officials would likely began pouring cement and sand over the entire facility, as was done at the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear accident in the Ukraine, Peter Bradford, a former commissioner of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, said in a briefing for reporters.

At that point, Bradford added, "many first responders would die."


Dammit, just when I thought it was safe to relax...
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43587 Posts
March 13 2011 00:34 GMT
#1771
On March 13 2011 08:04 Southlight wrote:
I'm still waiting for one

Sorry to hear that.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Sgany
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom790 Posts
March 13 2011 00:35 GMT
#1772
On March 13 2011 09:34 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 08:04 Southlight wrote:
I'm still waiting for one

Sorry to hear that.


He got the call :D Read up.
NaDa <3, MMA <3, Bisu <3,
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
March 13 2011 00:37 GMT
#1773
On March 13 2011 04:19 TimeOut wrote:


That is just surreal. Nature is so beautiful and powerful, but so destructive when we're in its way.
화이팅
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
March 13 2011 00:43 GMT
#1774
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-japan-quake-meltdown-20110312,0,2889362.story

Some more fear mongreling.
@
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 00:54:03
March 13 2011 00:51 GMT
#1775
I'd be willing to donate $1000 to a Fundraising SC Tournament if we got some big names involved. As long as it gets some recognition, I'm hoping a $1000 head start would be enough to get others to donate as well.

The SC2 community is huge. I'm sure we could raise a fairly significant amount of money if people were willing.

And while the money might not seem like much, any bit could help, because I imagine there are thousands of people in Japan who lost their livelihood due to the damages, and they'll need help finding food etc. Any little bit would help.
On my way...
Vaeila
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands336 Posts
March 13 2011 00:52 GMT
#1776
On March 13 2011 09:43 sqrt wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-japan-quake-meltdown-20110312,0,2889362.story

Some more fear mongreling.


Is this confirmed by other news stations but CNN also? CNN has been using the word meltdown the entire day...
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 13 2011 00:53 GMT
#1777
Is there video of the Japanese PM visiting one of Power Plants?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xVoiid
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada199 Posts
March 13 2011 00:58 GMT
#1778
Sooo, did radiation leak and spread or no? Cause that's the main thing I'm worried about right now, just thinking of Chernobyl... :S
It ain't over 'till it's over.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 13 2011 00:58 GMT
#1779
Wow.. the video footage of the tsunami is insane. Just one year ago we had an earthquake of almost the same instensity (8.8) followed by a huge tsunami, but I don't think it went that deep inland. Still, many lives were lost. Even worse, many of the locales hit that time, got hit by waves from this earthquake as well, although this time people went to the hills very early so there were no lives to mourn.

Truly this is a disaster, but the Japanese can and will rise again, just like the people in my country are.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4383 Posts
March 13 2011 01:05 GMT
#1780
http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20110312D12JFF03.htm

TOKYO (Nikkei)--The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) said Saturday afternoon the explosion at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant could only have been caused by a meltdown of the reactor core.

The same day, Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501), which runs the plant, began to flood the damaged reactor with seawater to cool it down, resorting to measures that could rust the reactor and force the utility to scrap it.

Cesium and iodine, by-products of nuclear fission, were detected around the plant, which would make the explosion the worst accident in the roughly 50-year history of Japanese nuclear power generation.

An explosion was heard near the plant's No. 1 reactor about 3:30 p.m. and plumes of white smoke went up 10 minutes later. The ceiling of the building housing the reactor collapsed, according to information obtained by Fukushima prefectural authorities.

At a news conference Saturday night, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano discounted the possibility of a significant leak of radioactive material from the accident. "The walls of the building containing the reactor were destroyed, meaning that the metal container encasing the reactor did not explode," Edano said.

The amount of radiation detected inside the plant after 4:00 p.m. slightly exceeded the dose people can safely receive in a year, according to information obtained by the Fukushima prefectural government.

The No. 1 reactor shut down automatically soon after a massive earthquake hit the area Friday, but its emergency core cooling system failed to cool the reactor's core sufficiently.

NISA is affiliated with the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry.

(The Nikkei March 13 edition)
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