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Mr.Zergling
Profile Joined December 2010
United States141 Posts
January 17 2011 04:00 GMT
#1541
On January 17 2011 12:59 TheMango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 12:57 Mr.Zergling wrote:
Lying as town only hurts the town....
I'm looking at you pandain


being inactive and NOT defending yourself as town from a lynch in end game lylo situation also hurts town fyi


Meh. This game was over after first "inactive" day post
~9001 lings at 5 min? No Problem
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 17 2011 04:00 GMT
#1542
On January 17 2011 12:56 why wrote:
lol you could have told us that, we would have doubled up on him night 2...



i wouldve rather he not be doubled. id rather us keep whittling down 3 a night and not 2 a night. and i think there was a good chance to run the "he bussed me" line later down the game if he was still alive. run the wifom circle, "ROL is still alive on day what, 6? kill that fool"
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 17 2011 04:03 GMT
#1543
On January 17 2011 12:58 bumatlarge wrote:
Man LSB was right -_- I dont even feel like going through this game to see all the things town did wrong, but the lack of blues was really cruel.

I hurt town. I never was able to establish any credibility.Even today mafia was either me and somebody else or me and somebody else.
Life can only kill you once.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 17 2011 04:03 GMT
#1544
On January 17 2011 12:58 bumatlarge wrote:
Man LSB was right -_- I dont even feel like going through this game to see all the things town did wrong, but the lack of blues was really cruel.

I'm going to instill some sort of safeguard against this in XXXVI, I'll see what I can cook up.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 17 2011 04:04 GMT
#1545
Wow I did not expect why to be mafia. He was like the only one I thought to be pro town >.>

Even though I've played really horribly this game, I still feel like I've learned much more from this game than any other, mostly because of the bootcamp. I'd greatly like to thank:
Ver,Incognito,BC,Flamewheel,Qatol,and especially Foolishness. If there was anyone else I'm sorry I forgot.


On January 17 2011 12:57 Mr.Zergling wrote:
Lying as town only hurts the town....
I'm looking at you pandain


I disagree. I still feel like that was a good move. If there had been any actual blue roles, then they would've been getting confirmed/doing their actions safely.
In fact I thought we were sure to win, since I thought there would probably be like 2 dts, each of them having confirmed a person each night while I got roleblocked.

LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 17 2011 04:04 GMT
#1546
On January 17 2011 13:03 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 12:58 bumatlarge wrote:
Man LSB was right -_- I dont even feel like going through this game to see all the things town did wrong, but the lack of blues was really cruel.

I hurt town. I never was able to establish any credibility.Even today mafia was either me and somebody else or me and somebody else.

You voted for Brocket! That means you were smarter than most of the town!
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 17 2011 04:06 GMT
#1547
On January 17 2011 13:04 Pandain wrote:
Wow I did not expect why to be mafia. He was like the only one I thought to be pro town >.>

Even though I've played really horribly this game, I still feel like I've learned much more from this game than any other, mostly because of the bootcamp. I'd greatly like to thank:
Ver,Incognito,BC,Flamewheel,Qatol,and especially Foolishness. If there was anyone else I'm sorry I forgot.


Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 12:57 Mr.Zergling wrote:
Lying as town only hurts the town....
I'm looking at you pandain


I disagree. I still feel like that was a good move. If there had been any actual blue roles, then they would've been getting confirmed/doing their actions safely.
In fact I thought we were sure to win, since I thought there would probably be like 2 dts, each of them having confirmed a person each night while I got roleblocked.


It wasn't. It wasn't any good at all.
Life can only kill you once.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
January 17 2011 04:07 GMT
#1548
wait how the fuck are there 0 detectives and 0 meds?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 17 2011 04:07 GMT
#1549
On January 17 2011 13:06 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 13:04 Pandain wrote:
Wow I did not expect why to be mafia. He was like the only one I thought to be pro town >.>

Even though I've played really horribly this game, I still feel like I've learned much more from this game than any other, mostly because of the bootcamp. I'd greatly like to thank:
Ver,Incognito,BC,Flamewheel,Qatol,and especially Foolishness. If there was anyone else I'm sorry I forgot.


On January 17 2011 12:57 Mr.Zergling wrote:
Lying as town only hurts the town....
I'm looking at you pandain


I disagree. I still feel like that was a good move. If there had been any actual blue roles, then they would've been getting confirmed/doing their actions safely.
In fact I thought we were sure to win, since I thought there would probably be like 2 dts, each of them having confirmed a person each night while I got roleblocked.


It wasn't. It wasn't any good at all.

Thanks for the explanation. This was actually one of the many problems I had this game. In this game it seemed the mafia were more active than the town, or at least more contributive. -.-
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 17 2011 04:08 GMT
#1550
On January 17 2011 12:57 Mr.Zergling wrote:
Lying as town only hurts the town....
I'm looking at you pandain

I mean, it was kind of obvious that he wasn't the DT. I don't really think any DT would have claimed the way he did (claiming checked DrH Night 1 immediately felt suspicious to me) but tbh we didn't have many blue reads; those we thought were blue we killed anyway.

Pandain's IRC use during Day 2 was pretty powerful against mafia, but RoL's analysis in the following night was MUCH scarier as mafia. It's why we killed him then.

Overall I don't actually feel that good about this game, because I just kept thinking of suspicious activity I'd notice as a townie and feel at a loss for words when it came to contributing in most mafia-favored way possible. Why's flipflop on Day 2 was HUGE, was surprised no one called him on that until late. With that kind of discussion paralysis going on in my head, plus the fact that we had only 5 mafia this game (KP formula was (Mafia + 1)/2 rounded up) I had a lot of trouble playing actively after we lost annul/tevo and felt that it was better just to lurk and ignore when people called me out. I mean, I guess we won but that kind of play isn't very fun overall.

The other thing that hurt mafia the most during this game was lack of communication/inactivity. I didn't really have a good idea of how we were coordinating ourselves until the town lynched annul, and only then did why/brocket/me get in contact with each other to try and see how to continue the game. I think if we'd talked more frequently from the beginning we wouldn't have had as much trouble with inactivity, at least on the mafia side.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
January 17 2011 04:08 GMT
#1551
this is pandain's meta

hes gonna try to PM FUCKING EVERYONE and claim any blue he can when he is green or blue or red, its what he does.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 04:09:08
January 17 2011 04:09 GMT
#1552
also, this little IRC tribal council that got my torch snuffed occurred when i was AFK and i didnt even have a chance to get in on it and break it up
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 17 2011 04:09 GMT
#1553
On January 17 2011 13:07 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 13:06 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 17 2011 13:04 Pandain wrote:
Wow I did not expect why to be mafia. He was like the only one I thought to be pro town >.>

Even though I've played really horribly this game, I still feel like I've learned much more from this game than any other, mostly because of the bootcamp. I'd greatly like to thank:
Ver,Incognito,BC,Flamewheel,Qatol,and especially Foolishness. If there was anyone else I'm sorry I forgot.


On January 17 2011 12:57 Mr.Zergling wrote:
Lying as town only hurts the town....
I'm looking at you pandain


I disagree. I still feel like that was a good move. If there had been any actual blue roles, then they would've been getting confirmed/doing their actions safely.
In fact I thought we were sure to win, since I thought there would probably be like 2 dts, each of them having confirmed a person each night while I got roleblocked.


It wasn't. It wasn't any good at all.

Thanks for the explanation. This was actually one of the many problems I had this game. In this game it seemed the mafia were more active than the town, or at least more contributive. -.-

You diverted attention from where it should have been directed. And by diverted attention I mean mine. I don't recall exactly how many times I called you a liar but it was more than 3. Don't do that.
Life can only kill you once.
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
January 17 2011 04:10 GMT
#1554
Once opz was confirmed and no one claimed to him we were pretty sure there weren't many if any blues (and almost certainly no DT's). We of course knew there were only 5 mafia and so thought that would make a good balance. So we just kept roleblocking pandain because people seemed to find it suspicious. If there had been any blues we probably would have roleblocked differently.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
January 17 2011 04:12 GMT
#1555
Whoops my bad. I was too busy playing DotA and after going on a few beyond godlike streaks [/brag] I forgot to come back here. Anyway this game disappointed me. I'm sorry to the people who tried, but mostly it was played in a very inactive fashion.

why (RB), Brocket (Framer), and d3_crescentia, annul (GF), and Tevo were Mafia.
As we already know, LSB, RebirthOfLeGenD, and Insanious were Veterans.
~OpZ~ was our Mafia Vigilante.
Everybody else was a townie.

So what was the purpose of this game?
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
January 17 2011 04:12 GMT
#1556
On January 17 2011 13:09 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 13:07 Pandain wrote:
On January 17 2011 13:06 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 17 2011 13:04 Pandain wrote:
Wow I did not expect why to be mafia. He was like the only one I thought to be pro town >.>

Even though I've played really horribly this game, I still feel like I've learned much more from this game than any other, mostly because of the bootcamp. I'd greatly like to thank:
Ver,Incognito,BC,Flamewheel,Qatol,and especially Foolishness. If there was anyone else I'm sorry I forgot.


On January 17 2011 12:57 Mr.Zergling wrote:
Lying as town only hurts the town....
I'm looking at you pandain


I disagree. I still feel like that was a good move. If there had been any actual blue roles, then they would've been getting confirmed/doing their actions safely.
In fact I thought we were sure to win, since I thought there would probably be like 2 dts, each of them having confirmed a person each night while I got roleblocked.


It wasn't. It wasn't any good at all.

Thanks for the explanation. This was actually one of the many problems I had this game. In this game it seemed the mafia were more active than the town, or at least more contributive. -.-

You diverted attention from where it should have been directed. And by diverted attention I mean mine. I don't recall exactly how many times I called you a liar but it was more than 3. Don't do that.



LOL who the fuck listens to pandain???
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 17 2011 04:13 GMT
#1557
On January 17 2011 13:09 annul wrote:
also, this little IRC tribal council that got my torch snuffed occurred when i was AFK and i didnt even have a chance to get in on it and break it up

Sorry for the bus - I just figured with 5+ people already convinced by Pandain I thought I might as well look like one of the first. I'm actually not sure what the best response would have been in that situation, but at least orgolove thought I was innocent.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 17 2011 04:16 GMT
#1558
I actually feel at least somewhat more confident. I was suspicious of D3 because of his "contributing without really contributing", yet laid back on him because he was actually at least somewhat contributing whilst others weren't.

So I have a question to post to everyone:
Who is more suspicious:

1.Those who don't contribute.
2.Those who try to contribute but are just really really bad at it.
3.Those who try to contribute but it doesn't really say much.

Cause all 3 look suspicious to me. Obviously now in retrospective it seems #3 is the obvious choice, but at the time, was there anything distinguishing why/d3 from the others? Especially why, I thought he was surely pro town.

On January 17 2011 13:12 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 13:09 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 17 2011 13:07 Pandain wrote:
On January 17 2011 13:06 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 17 2011 13:04 Pandain wrote:
Wow I did not expect why to be mafia. He was like the only one I thought to be pro town >.>

Even though I've played really horribly this game, I still feel like I've learned much more from this game than any other, mostly because of the bootcamp. I'd greatly like to thank:
Ver,Incognito,BC,Flamewheel,Qatol,and especially Foolishness. If there was anyone else I'm sorry I forgot.


On January 17 2011 12:57 Mr.Zergling wrote:
Lying as town only hurts the town....
I'm looking at you pandain


I disagree. I still feel like that was a good move. If there had been any actual blue roles, then they would've been getting confirmed/doing their actions safely.
In fact I thought we were sure to win, since I thought there would probably be like 2 dts, each of them having confirmed a person each night while I got roleblocked.


It wasn't. It wasn't any good at all.

Thanks for the explanation. This was actually one of the many problems I had this game. In this game it seemed the mafia were more active than the town, or at least more contributive. -.-

You diverted attention from where it should have been directed. And by diverted attention I mean mine. I don't recall exactly how many times I called you a liar but it was more than 3. Don't do that.



LOL who the fuck listens to pandain???

Thanks Coag. It's nice to know you always got my back.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
January 17 2011 04:19 GMT
#1559
On January 03 2011 03:59 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Oh and DT's tonight. All I want you to do is CHECK LURKERS. I believe most of mafia team (probably 2-3 of them) are in there and we can't analyze lurkers. It would be stupid for the mafia to try to frame one, and odds are even if they try you won't overlap.

As for the list of lurkers, here is what I have:
5. Brocket
7. Mr.Zergling
8. why
9. Jackal58
12. Node
15. ShoCkeyy
19. Orgolove
23. GeorgeClooney
24. d3_crescentia
27. Soulfire
30. ~OpZ~

Thats 11 people. Now since the Godfather is dead, any returns that are BLUE, or any returns you have gotten on people that are blue are 100%. In fact, anyone who has been returned town is guaranteed innocent right now.

I just want to say, Annul's rage about his teams inactivity gave me this list.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
January 17 2011 04:20 GMT
#1560
Mafia is not a game you can pick up and play. You need to stay focused on it until you're removed from the game. If you decide you don't want to play midway through, your options range from getting lynched to getting replaced to even getting modkilled. All of these are instances of you letting your team down, and rest assured everyone else playing doesn't appreciate it. Many people have tried to recover from burnout phases with a "nice easy game of Mafia" and found that it didn't work out.

Mafia is a competitive game, albeit unique in that players are not directly competing with each other individually. Playing to win is central to the game. On the Town's side, making light unrelated conversation with the other players, even if you like them outside the game, doesn't help the cause if it drags on for very long (especially since you may need to lynch them later). On the Mafia's side, it has been suggested that night-kills be tailored to keeping enjoyable players alive instead of making kills that will make it more likely that they will win. If that Mafia then loses, then it will come out that they essentially lost on purpose - and no victorious Town wants to hear that.

The bottom line is, Mafia is not for everyone. It's nothing personal if you don't like what you just read, but everyone will probably be happier if you stayed on the sidelines.

Note that this is NOT saying that Mafia shouldn't be fun. For Mafia, the fun comes more from the competition than the social aspects. You're more than welcome to talk to the players after the game and go from there.


Sorry guys, I let a lot of people down. It's my 2nd game of mafia and I got townie twice in a row. I know townie can be fun as well but the inactivity of all the other townies as well gave me a very boring atmosphere especially when even the mafias were lurking. I guess I'll try to change my play the next game I am in and see what I can do.
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