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On January 17 2011 13:12 flamewheel wrote:
Whoops my bad. I was too busy playing DotA and after going on a few beyond godlike streaks [/brag] I forgot to come back here. Anyway this game disappointed me. I'm sorry to the people who tried, but mostly it was played in a very inactive fashion.
why (RB), Brocket (Framer), and d3_crescentia, annul (GF), and Tevo were Mafia.
As we already know, LSB, RebirthOfLeGenD, and Insanious were Veterans.
~OpZ~ was our Mafia Vigilante.
Everybody else was a townie.
So what was the purpose of this game?
I'm pretty disappointed to - it would've been nicer to get overwhelmingly crushed by analysis instead of picking off the most active townies and letting the game stagnate through the rest. I mean, a win is a win, but I feel kind of dumb for winning this way.
I feel that you must've been going for some kind of aesop's fable lesson where we should learn to do post analysis instead of counting votes, relying on non-existent blues and judging people purely on amount of "contribution." Unfortunately, well... I didn't really see much of that at all.
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On January 17 2011 13:12 flamewheel wrote:
why (RB), Brocket (Framer), and d3_crescentia, annul (GF), and Tevo were Mafia.
As we already know, LSB, RebirthOfLeGenD, and Insanious were Veterans.
~OpZ~ was our Mafia Vigilante.
Everybody else was a townie.
So what was the purpose of this game?
The puprose of the game was to have a few smart/active people in the town be able to stay alive longer by making them veterans.
However, this was foiled as one person was lynched, one person was shot by the town, and the third gave up in frustration.
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We should've guessed that d3 was mafia after he contributed nil to IRC way back when it was formed. Ah well, GG. It's unfortunate that it played out like it did, I was still really enjoying the game at the point where I died and was looking forward to seeing where it went. Of course it played out in the least interesting fashion possible.
It's cruel to say that roles will disclosed when those roles don't actually exist. I mean, technically the wording was correct in the role list, but it's just not cool man. Obviously the point is to get town to rely on good analysis instead of their informative / KP roles, but in a game that goes as inactive as this one did what's the point? It could've been pretty damn interesting, but I guess we'll never know.
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On January 17 2011 13:22 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 13:12 flamewheel wrote:
why (RB), Brocket (Framer), and d3_crescentia, annul (GF), and Tevo were Mafia.
As we already know, LSB, RebirthOfLeGenD, and Insanious were Veterans.
~OpZ~ was our Mafia Vigilante.
Everybody else was a townie.
So what was the purpose of this game? The puprose of the game was to have a few smart/active people in the town be able to stay alive longer by making them veterans. However, this was foiled as one person was lynched, one person was shot by the town, and the third gave up in frustration.
To be fair alot of the "veterans" really didn't do much :p. You were REALLY scummy day 1, and while I was really retarded in wanting to get you lynched so soon(but that just shows how scummy you were), your defense was pretty abysmal and your whole "Oh, I'm going to be confirmed, but I can't tell you guys!" just screamed scum.
RoL did actually help but then got double shot. But seriously, that was one of the major mistakes. I told Opz NOT to hit RoL, I told him to hit darth. And then he shoots RoL. Why did you do that btw Opz?
Impervious was decent, at least he wasn't as retarded as me.
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On January 17 2011 13:26 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 13:22 LSB wrote:On January 17 2011 13:12 flamewheel wrote:
why (RB), Brocket (Framer), and d3_crescentia, annul (GF), and Tevo were Mafia.
As we already know, LSB, RebirthOfLeGenD, and Insanious were Veterans.
~OpZ~ was our Mafia Vigilante.
Everybody else was a townie.
So what was the purpose of this game? The puprose of the game was to have a few smart/active people in the town be able to stay alive longer by making them veterans. However, this was foiled as one person was lynched, one person was shot by the town, and the third gave up in frustration. To be fair alot of the "veterans" really didn't do much :p. You were REALLY scummy day 1, and while I was really retarded in wanting to get you lynched so soon(but that just shows how scummy you were), your defense was pretty abysmal and your whole "Oh, I'm going to be confirmed, but I can't tell you guys!" just screamed scum. RoL did actually help but then got double shot. But seriously, that was one of the major mistakes. I told Opz NOT to hit RoL, I told him to hit darth. And then he shoots RoL. Why did you do that btw Opz? Impervious was decent, at least he wasn't as retarded as me.
I wasn't scummy at all, Annul yelled a bunch of things that were not true and people didn't bother to actually read any posts at all and went with the "Hey, apparently omgus is a scumtell, so lets go with that"
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On January 17 2011 13:26 Pandain wrote:
RoL did actually help but then got double shot. But seriously, that was one of the major mistakes. I told Opz NOT to hit RoL, I told him to hit darth. And then he shoots RoL. Why did you do that btw Opz?
Opz was a mafia vigilante, according to flamewheel's post. 
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On January 17 2011 13:28 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 13:26 Pandain wrote:On January 17 2011 13:22 LSB wrote:On January 17 2011 13:12 flamewheel wrote:
why (RB), Brocket (Framer), and d3_crescentia, annul (GF), and Tevo were Mafia.
As we already know, LSB, RebirthOfLeGenD, and Insanious were Veterans.
~OpZ~ was our Mafia Vigilante.
Everybody else was a townie.
So what was the purpose of this game? The puprose of the game was to have a few smart/active people in the town be able to stay alive longer by making them veterans. However, this was foiled as one person was lynched, one person was shot by the town, and the third gave up in frustration. To be fair alot of the "veterans" really didn't do much :p. You were REALLY scummy day 1, and while I was really retarded in wanting to get you lynched so soon(but that just shows how scummy you were), your defense was pretty abysmal and your whole "Oh, I'm going to be confirmed, but I can't tell you guys!" just screamed scum. RoL did actually help but then got double shot. But seriously, that was one of the major mistakes. I told Opz NOT to hit RoL, I told him to hit darth. And then he shoots RoL. Why did you do that btw Opz? Impervious was decent, at least he wasn't as retarded as me. I wasn't scummy at all, Annul yelled a bunch of things that were not true and people didn't bother to actually read any posts at all and went with the "Hey, apparently omgus is a scumtell, so lets go with that"
Actually the reasons I were suspicious of you weren't really even Annul. I thought Annul had explained it pretty poorly. There were a number of things you had done:
1.Your pms with me. You had this whole "I knew annul would accuse me, hoping no one would read it, because I never defend" which was just REALLY far fetched.
2.Nitpicking at small details.
3.Super defensiveness, which even u said was out of your norm.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009¤tpage=25#486
There was my analysis
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On January 17 2011 13:16 Pandain wrote:I actually feel at least somewhat more confident. I was suspicious of D3 because of his "contributing without really contributing", yet laid back on him because he was actually at least somewhat contributing whilst others weren't.
So I have a question to post to everyone:
Who is more suspicious:1.Those who don't contribute. 2.Those who try to contribute but are just really really bad at it. 3.Those who try to contribute but it doesn't really say much. Cause all 3 look suspicious to me. Obviously now in retrospective it seems #3 is the obvious choice, but at the time, was there anything distinguishing why/d3 from the others? Especially why, I thought he was surely pro town. Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 13:12 Coagulation wrote:On January 17 2011 13:09 Jackal58 wrote:On January 17 2011 13:07 Pandain wrote:On January 17 2011 13:06 Jackal58 wrote:On January 17 2011 13:04 Pandain wrote:Wow I did not expect why to be mafia. He was like the only one I thought to be pro town >.> Even though I've played really horribly this game, I still feel like I've learned much more from this game than any other, mostly because of the bootcamp. I'd greatly like to thank: Ver,Incognito,BC,Flamewheel,Qatol,and especially Foolishness. If there was anyone else I'm sorry I forgot. On January 17 2011 12:57 Mr.Zergling wrote:
Lying as town only hurts the town....
I'm looking at you pandain I disagree. I still feel like that was a good move. If there had been any actual blue roles, then they would've been getting confirmed/doing their actions safely. In fact I thought we were sure to win, since I thought there would probably be like 2 dts, each of them having confirmed a person each night while I got roleblocked. It wasn't. It wasn't any good at all. Thanks for the explanation. This was actually one of the many problems I had this game. In this game it seemed the mafia were more active than the town, or at least more contributive. -.- You diverted attention from where it should have been directed. And by diverted attention I mean mine. I don't recall exactly how many times I called you a liar but it was more than 3. Don't do that. LOL who the fuck listens to pandain??? Thanks Coag. It's nice to know you always got my back.
Why's Day 2 post/Seraph vote after all of the discussion on orgolove/annul was pretty scummy imo, as he sidestepped the entire discussion with only a "I want to see more proof" THAT late into the day when there was a lot of discussion. Then after the annul vote is all but decided he comes in with another post saying "well I guess I'll vote annul with you guys." I mean, I'd think that kind of scumslip goes away with inexperience, but those two posts made me facepalm pretty hard when I read them.
Another good tell on why was just today - I virtually call him out for being scum and he doesn't say anything about it. He just goes "oh I'm going to vote Mr. Zergling" and avoids addressing my accusation. This should definitely be a tell that something's weird.
As for me - I didn't really post much or contribute. I did feel like my early vote on annul would've been enough to clear me from suspicion for a little bit, but as I said I wasn't really sure how to handle coming back from losing 2 mafia members. I think I did make a half-assed attempt at giving the town a plan - the best approach was systematically rooting through lurkers/inactives through post analysis - but I never took the lead on this.
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On January 17 2011 13:32 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 13:28 LSB wrote:On January 17 2011 13:26 Pandain wrote:On January 17 2011 13:22 LSB wrote:On January 17 2011 13:12 flamewheel wrote:
why (RB), Brocket (Framer), and d3_crescentia, annul (GF), and Tevo were Mafia.
As we already know, LSB, RebirthOfLeGenD, and Insanious were Veterans.
~OpZ~ was our Mafia Vigilante.
Everybody else was a townie.
So what was the purpose of this game? The puprose of the game was to have a few smart/active people in the town be able to stay alive longer by making them veterans. However, this was foiled as one person was lynched, one person was shot by the town, and the third gave up in frustration. To be fair alot of the "veterans" really didn't do much :p. You were REALLY scummy day 1, and while I was really retarded in wanting to get you lynched so soon(but that just shows how scummy you were), your defense was pretty abysmal and your whole "Oh, I'm going to be confirmed, but I can't tell you guys!" just screamed scum. RoL did actually help but then got double shot. But seriously, that was one of the major mistakes. I told Opz NOT to hit RoL, I told him to hit darth. And then he shoots RoL. Why did you do that btw Opz? Impervious was decent, at least he wasn't as retarded as me. I wasn't scummy at all, Annul yelled a bunch of things that were not true and people didn't bother to actually read any posts at all and went with the "Hey, apparently omgus is a scumtell, so lets go with that" Actually the reasons I were suspicious of you weren't really even Annul. I thought Annul had explained it pretty poorly. There were a number of things you had done: 1.Your pms with me. You had this whole "I knew annul would accuse me, hoping no one would read it, because I never defend" which was just REALLY far fetched. 2.Nitpicking at small details. 3.Super defensiveness, which even u said was out of your norm. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009¤tpage=25#486There was my analysis
You're a bit naive about PMs, and it actually hurts your game
First rule about PMs, don't ask for trust.
Second rule about PMs, don't give trust
Superdefensiveness? That something that Annul made up, go read the posts
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On January 17 2011 13:39 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 13:32 Pandain wrote:On January 17 2011 13:28 LSB wrote:On January 17 2011 13:26 Pandain wrote:On January 17 2011 13:22 LSB wrote:On January 17 2011 13:12 flamewheel wrote:
why (RB), Brocket (Framer), and d3_crescentia, annul (GF), and Tevo were Mafia.
As we already know, LSB, RebirthOfLeGenD, and Insanious were Veterans.
~OpZ~ was our Mafia Vigilante.
Everybody else was a townie.
So what was the purpose of this game? The puprose of the game was to have a few smart/active people in the town be able to stay alive longer by making them veterans. However, this was foiled as one person was lynched, one person was shot by the town, and the third gave up in frustration. To be fair alot of the "veterans" really didn't do much :p. You were REALLY scummy day 1, and while I was really retarded in wanting to get you lynched so soon(but that just shows how scummy you were), your defense was pretty abysmal and your whole "Oh, I'm going to be confirmed, but I can't tell you guys!" just screamed scum. RoL did actually help but then got double shot. But seriously, that was one of the major mistakes. I told Opz NOT to hit RoL, I told him to hit darth. And then he shoots RoL. Why did you do that btw Opz? Impervious was decent, at least he wasn't as retarded as me. I wasn't scummy at all, Annul yelled a bunch of things that were not true and people didn't bother to actually read any posts at all and went with the "Hey, apparently omgus is a scumtell, so lets go with that" Actually the reasons I were suspicious of you weren't really even Annul. I thought Annul had explained it pretty poorly. There were a number of things you had done: 1.Your pms with me. You had this whole "I knew annul would accuse me, hoping no one would read it, because I never defend" which was just REALLY far fetched. 2.Nitpicking at small details. 3.Super defensiveness, which even u said was out of your norm. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009¤tpage=25#486There was my analysis You're a bit naive about PMs, and it actually hurts your game First rule about PMs, don't ask for trust. Second rule about PMs, don't give trust Superdefensiveness? That something that Annul made up, go read the posts
My PMs weren't about trust. I'm talking specifically on our pms, in which you had this whole far fetched theories which seemed like you were just grasping at straws.
As for PMs in general, there's no reason not to share as long as it isn't your role or someone's elses.
And again, when I say super defensiveness, I just mean for you. Usually, as you said, you just let it go by. You said "Oh, it was just so horrible I had to respond," but it really wasn't that bad of an analysis.
Just to make this clear, I'm not saying you played poorly. Not at all. (How could I make judgement on that ). I'm just pointing out you were really scummy day 1.
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On January 17 2011 13:16 Pandain wrote:
I actually feel at least somewhat more confident. I was suspicious of D3 because of his "contributing without really contributing", yet laid back on him because he was actually at least somewhat contributing whilst others weren't.
This is a gigantic mafia tell. Read Ver's analysis of Salem mafia, or the lynch on Shockeyy, you should have hammered him for this
So I have a question to post to everyone:
Who is more suspicious:
1.Those who don't contribute.
2.Those who try to contribute but are just really really bad at it.
3.Those who try to contribute but it doesn't really say much.
This is the problem, just because someone posts bad (ie Bill Murray), it doesn't mean that they are mafia.
Firstly, what is a contribution. Contibution is new analysis or reasoning. All else is inactivity
#1 is pretty suspicious. But you have to seperate "not contributing" from "Inactive"
#2 is not suspicious at all, unless you can tell its intentional
#3 is not suspicious at all. As long as they are contributing, activity is not an issue
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On January 17 2011 13:44 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 13:39 LSB wrote:On January 17 2011 13:32 Pandain wrote:On January 17 2011 13:28 LSB wrote:On January 17 2011 13:26 Pandain wrote:On January 17 2011 13:22 LSB wrote:On January 17 2011 13:12 flamewheel wrote:
why (RB), Brocket (Framer), and d3_crescentia, annul (GF), and Tevo were Mafia.
As we already know, LSB, RebirthOfLeGenD, and Insanious were Veterans.
~OpZ~ was our Mafia Vigilante.
Everybody else was a townie.
So what was the purpose of this game? The puprose of the game was to have a few smart/active people in the town be able to stay alive longer by making them veterans. However, this was foiled as one person was lynched, one person was shot by the town, and the third gave up in frustration. To be fair alot of the "veterans" really didn't do much :p. You were REALLY scummy day 1, and while I was really retarded in wanting to get you lynched so soon(but that just shows how scummy you were), your defense was pretty abysmal and your whole "Oh, I'm going to be confirmed, but I can't tell you guys!" just screamed scum. RoL did actually help but then got double shot. But seriously, that was one of the major mistakes. I told Opz NOT to hit RoL, I told him to hit darth. And then he shoots RoL. Why did you do that btw Opz? Impervious was decent, at least he wasn't as retarded as me. I wasn't scummy at all, Annul yelled a bunch of things that were not true and people didn't bother to actually read any posts at all and went with the "Hey, apparently omgus is a scumtell, so lets go with that" Actually the reasons I were suspicious of you weren't really even Annul. I thought Annul had explained it pretty poorly. There were a number of things you had done: 1.Your pms with me. You had this whole "I knew annul would accuse me, hoping no one would read it, because I never defend" which was just REALLY far fetched. 2.Nitpicking at small details. 3.Super defensiveness, which even u said was out of your norm. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009¤tpage=25#486There was my analysis You're a bit naive about PMs, and it actually hurts your game First rule about PMs, don't ask for trust. Second rule about PMs, don't give trust Superdefensiveness? That something that Annul made up, go read the posts My PMs weren't about trust. I'm talking specifically on our pms, in which you had this whole far fetched theories which seemed like you were just grasping at straws.
Not my fault that they were actually completly true
And about trust, you screaming OMG CLAIM TO ME! Didn't really help your case
And again, when I say super defensiveness, I just mean for you. Usually, as you said, you just let it go by. You said "Oh, it was just so horrible I had to respond," but it really wasn't that bad of an analysis.
uhh, the analysis sucks. Go read it
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On January 17 2011 13:49 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 13:44 Pandain wrote:On January 17 2011 13:39 LSB wrote:On January 17 2011 13:32 Pandain wrote:On January 17 2011 13:28 LSB wrote:On January 17 2011 13:26 Pandain wrote:On January 17 2011 13:22 LSB wrote:On January 17 2011 13:12 flamewheel wrote:
why (RB), Brocket (Framer), and d3_crescentia, annul (GF), and Tevo were Mafia.
As we already know, LSB, RebirthOfLeGenD, and Insanious were Veterans.
~OpZ~ was our Mafia Vigilante.
Everybody else was a townie.
So what was the purpose of this game? The puprose of the game was to have a few smart/active people in the town be able to stay alive longer by making them veterans. However, this was foiled as one person was lynched, one person was shot by the town, and the third gave up in frustration. To be fair alot of the "veterans" really didn't do much :p. You were REALLY scummy day 1, and while I was really retarded in wanting to get you lynched so soon(but that just shows how scummy you were), your defense was pretty abysmal and your whole "Oh, I'm going to be confirmed, but I can't tell you guys!" just screamed scum. RoL did actually help but then got double shot. But seriously, that was one of the major mistakes. I told Opz NOT to hit RoL, I told him to hit darth. And then he shoots RoL. Why did you do that btw Opz? Impervious was decent, at least he wasn't as retarded as me. I wasn't scummy at all, Annul yelled a bunch of things that were not true and people didn't bother to actually read any posts at all and went with the "Hey, apparently omgus is a scumtell, so lets go with that" Actually the reasons I were suspicious of you weren't really even Annul. I thought Annul had explained it pretty poorly. There were a number of things you had done: 1.Your pms with me. You had this whole "I knew annul would accuse me, hoping no one would read it, because I never defend" which was just REALLY far fetched. 2.Nitpicking at small details. 3.Super defensiveness, which even u said was out of your norm. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=179009¤tpage=25#486There was my analysis You're a bit naive about PMs, and it actually hurts your game First rule about PMs, don't ask for trust. Second rule about PMs, don't give trust Superdefensiveness? That something that Annul made up, go read the posts My PMs weren't about trust. I'm talking specifically on our pms, in which you had this whole far fetched theories which seemed like you were just grasping at straws. Not my fault that they were actually completly true And about trust, you screaming OMG CLAIM TO ME! Didn't really help your case Show nested quote +And again, when I say super defensiveness, I just mean for you. Usually, as you said, you just let it go by. You said "Oh, it was just so horrible I had to respond," but it really wasn't that bad of an analysis. uhh, the analysis sucks. Go read it
Well we can ask.
Annul, is this true in what you did? If so, I bow down to your knowledge of psychology LSB.
1. Annul Hosts Harry Potter Mafia. Figures that I ignore analysis
2. Annul is Mafia in XXXV
3. Annul decides he's going to pretend to be active by making a large analysis. So he picks someone that probably isn't going to respond. He picks me.
As for you claiming, yes it could seem scummy, but again, it was because I was about to do a huge analysis on you, going to get you lynched, so wanted to know if you were a dt/what was your plan. Cause face it, that WAS suspicious, you can't deny that.
And again, it wasn't THAT bad of an analysis.
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I actually thought annul was scummier than LSB on day 1. And yes, OMGUS is a scumtell unless you present a good reason for your vote. When you first voted annul, you didn't present a very compelling case, imo. It was only as the day went on that I felt better about you and worse about annul. Specifically when he respondied to my post and admitted it was a flaw of his to tunnel... and then he just kept tunneling. I didn't think we could divert the lynch to annul so I voted Brocket... but I wasn't nearly vocal enough in convincing people to switch. I was afraid of being wrong... My resolve for next game is to be more vocal about my opinions.
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The current mafia MO seems to be this; everyone but one or two people lurk the whole time, kill off active townies and let the remaining town lynch themselves to death. I'd say the town lost this game after the second failed double lynch, after that pretty much all the active voices had been silenced (except for pandain who was a convenient scapegoat for all the towns failures). Also the preocupation with DT's and whether or not pandain was town really wasted valuable time. I played pretty terribly this game. Pandain really screwed the town with his claim.
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On January 17 2011 13:38 d3_crescentia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 13:16 Pandain wrote:I actually feel at least somewhat more confident. I was suspicious of D3 because of his "contributing without really contributing", yet laid back on him because he was actually at least somewhat contributing whilst others weren't.
So I have a question to post to everyone:
Who is more suspicious:1.Those who don't contribute. 2.Those who try to contribute but are just really really bad at it. 3.Those who try to contribute but it doesn't really say much. Cause all 3 look suspicious to me. Obviously now in retrospective it seems #3 is the obvious choice, but at the time, was there anything distinguishing why/d3 from the others? Especially why, I thought he was surely pro town. On January 17 2011 13:12 Coagulation wrote:On January 17 2011 13:09 Jackal58 wrote:On January 17 2011 13:07 Pandain wrote:On January 17 2011 13:06 Jackal58 wrote:On January 17 2011 13:04 Pandain wrote:Wow I did not expect why to be mafia. He was like the only one I thought to be pro town >.> Even though I've played really horribly this game, I still feel like I've learned much more from this game than any other, mostly because of the bootcamp. I'd greatly like to thank: Ver,Incognito,BC,Flamewheel,Qatol,and especially Foolishness. If there was anyone else I'm sorry I forgot. On January 17 2011 12:57 Mr.Zergling wrote:
Lying as town only hurts the town....
I'm looking at you pandain I disagree. I still feel like that was a good move. If there had been any actual blue roles, then they would've been getting confirmed/doing their actions safely. In fact I thought we were sure to win, since I thought there would probably be like 2 dts, each of them having confirmed a person each night while I got roleblocked. It wasn't. It wasn't any good at all. Thanks for the explanation. This was actually one of the many problems I had this game. In this game it seemed the mafia were more active than the town, or at least more contributive. -.- You diverted attention from where it should have been directed. And by diverted attention I mean mine. I don't recall exactly how many times I called you a liar but it was more than 3. Don't do that. LOL who the fuck listens to pandain??? Thanks Coag. It's nice to know you always got my back. Why's Day 2 post/Seraph vote after all of the discussion on orgolove/annul was pretty scummy imo, as he sidestepped the entire discussion with only a "I want to see more proof" THAT late into the day when there was a lot of discussion. Then after the annul vote is all but decided he comes in with another post saying "well I guess I'll vote annul with you guys." I mean, I'd think that kind of scumslip goes away with inexperience, but those two posts made me facepalm pretty hard when I read them.
Yeah, the whole annul vote thing was pretty bad on my part. I didn't think too much of it at the time because that was what actually happened; I came back from work and posted. Then I went to dinner and posted when I got back. I was expecting someone to call me out on it all game, especially when orgolove did his comprehensive analysis of the votes.
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On January 17 2011 14:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
. Pandain really screwed the town with his claim.
!!!!
I still don't see how in the least bit that hurt the town.
At the most it made me seem more suspicious, but that's it.
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On January 17 2011 14:03 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 14:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
. Pandain really screwed the town with his claim. !!!! I still don't see how in the least bit that hurt the town. At the most it made me seem more suspicious, but that's it.
Because it made you the centre of all the attention and analysis and debate when you were just a townie. Not that that's all your fault... people shouldn't have been so focused on you.
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On January 17 2011 14:03 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 14:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
. Pandain really screwed the town with his claim. !!!! I still don't see how in the least bit that hurt the town. At the most it made me seem more suspicious, but that's it.
The town was preoccupied for days over this, entire pages are taken up discussing whether or not you were telling the truth. You being the center of attention took a LOT of time away from actual scum hunting.
Edit: lol wow nice ninja GGQ...
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