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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On May 30 2009 14:49 IdrA wrote: yep people who devote their lives to a religion created by a science fiction writer are often perfectly intelligent and not crazy at all yep people who devote their lives to a religion created by some delerious poor people 2000 years ago are often perfectly intelligent and not crazy at all. | ||
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On May 31 2009 10:58 Physician wrote: A little caveat so as not to give the wrong impression - at least in Germany the church tax is only paid by members of the respective churches. i.e people affiliated to a church, who are not member of a church tax-collecting denomination, do not have to pay it. Like you say in Scandinavia it depends, in Iceland if you are not signed up with a religion it goes to their university system. I am not sure if Sweden has a way out of this and I think in Denmark and Norway it's obligatory one way or another. I think it has been an option in Sweden for quite some time. But most people have been members of the Church since birth and were therefor paying taxes without really realizing it because it did not say anywhere that they were paying money to the Church. This was changed some years ago and since then the Church has continually lost members every passing year. | ||
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On May 30 2009 15:43 AttackZerg wrote: wow I can't believe how many people who I consider smart have nothing but short, dscriminating comments about scientology, yet if I told some wackjob christian that being a christian meant he was retarded or said "I think it's generally accepted that being a christian(scientologist) naturally excludes them from being intelligent and contributing citizens " then people would be moderatoring it. I think most religions are stupid and abuse media, but is the difference between these idiots and the ones who think an imaginary friend is watching over them? So much discrimination on teamliquid.... the general forum is a wasteland. The human mind is funny. You don't realize what you have until you lose it. This applies to religion. Most of us don't realize what we have with religion. When we lose it, we will realize that we had a bullshit plauge that kept us back from all that is good. Since we don't have scientology, we see it for what it is. Those who have scientology however... | ||
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Art_yo
Sweden4 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On June 02 2009 01:40 ParasitJonte wrote: yep people who devote their lives to a religion created by some delerious poor people 2000 years ago are often perfectly intelligent and not crazy at all. the way people judge things is strongly affected by the culture theyre raised in. western culture has decided that the zombie jew who was born to a virgin and who wants us to eat his body via crackers is rationally acceptable. this makes it much easier for people to accept. but ask any non scientologist and theyre gonna tell you its a load of bullshit. that makes it much harder to get roped into, meaning the followers are much more likely to be retarded. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On May 30 2009 14:47 EvilTeletubby wrote: I think it's generally accepted that being a scientologist naturally excludes them from being intelligent and contributing citizens... Definitely agree with you, this is a great move because wiki is supposed to be informational and changing articles to make your views seem more normal and not crazy is just going too far. It seems that they are just trying to make themselves and their organization (I say organization because i do not accept this as a church or religion) seem better and trying to recruit members. | ||
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Mah Buckit!
Finland474 Posts
On May 30 2009 14:37 Hippopotamus wrote: Now scientology is a pretty fucked up 'religion' You suggest there is a religion that is not? Damn you gotta eat mushrooms to come up with any of that shit. All religious peopel are mental ill and should be locked in their local mental hospital for their on saftey. Very good point. How sane can anyone, who has based his life on thousands of years old stuff thats mostly bullshit and made up while being epicly high from hallusinogenic mushroom, be. You´d think that we have somekind of cure for this BS. Also these people rule most civilized countries so it really makes one kinda scared :S | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
On June 02 2009 02:39 Art_yo wrote: All religious peopel are mental ill and should be locked in their local mental hospital for their on saftey. Sadly they are too many (even in scandinavia) for that to work. A better solution would be to enslave them. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
On June 02 2009 02:39 Art_yo wrote: All religious peopel are mental ill and should be locked in their local mental hospital for their on saftey. 0 - Spell right 1 - Everyone in the world could be called mentally ill by those standards. 2 - Mental Hospitals dont really work and are more prisons than hospitals. 3 - Most people who are problematic would be so indepently of religion 4 - This is ridiculous | ||
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LuckyOne
266 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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soudo
603 Posts
And before you say shit like "Oh wait, Christianity has the Pope!". The pope doesn't collect your money. You can go to church, and you can leave without donating. Not the same with Scientology. That shit is not a religion, it's a cult. Period. Goddamn, I mean that in and of itself should be enough of a clue. A goddamn CEO. | ||
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Pioneer
994 Posts
Now it's developed into an even more shady organization but that's the main reason I think for many of the rich and elite of society joining. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32028 Posts
On June 02 2009 05:04 soudo wrote: You guys know Scientology is the only religion with a CEO right? As in, Chief Executive Officer? As in, collects the money from the followers? Can you name me a legitimate religion with a C fucking EO? You think Buddha has an accountant? And before you say shit like "Oh wait, Christianity has the Pope!". The pope doesn't collect your money. You can go to church, and you can leave without donating. Not the same with Scientology. That shit is not a religion, it's a cult. Period. Goddamn, I mean that in and of itself should be enough of a clue. A goddamn CEO. Try not donating at church and see if anyone gives a shit about you. Your value to their community is absolutely tied to that. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
On June 02 2009 05:28 Hawk wrote: Try not donating at church and see if anyone gives a shit about you. Your value to their community is absolutely tied to that. I never gave any money to the church and everyone there loves me =( Now I known their true feelings thanks. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On June 02 2009 05:04 soudo wrote: There are thousands of religions around the world with the same business model. Saying Scientology is the only one is very ignorant. It's not the first neither the biggest. Scientology is just the one more famous in the internetz. The idea to create a cult only to collect money from people you can scam is about as old as mankind.You guys know Scientology is the only religion with a CEO right? As in, Chief Executive Officer? As in, collects the money from the followers? Can you name me a legitimate religion with a C fucking EO? You think Buddha has an accountant? And before you say shit like "Oh wait, Christianity has the Pope!". The pope doesn't collect your money. You can go to church, and you can leave without donating. Not the same with Scientology. That shit is not a religion, it's a cult. Period. Goddamn, I mean that in and of itself should be enough of a clue. A goddamn CEO. Here in Brazil, one of those got so big they even own a national TV channel that is usually top 2~3 in national audience. The 'bishop' who owns the TV channel also owns a church. As if it were another business enterprise like any other. In most countries this is a very efficient way to make lots of money and pay very little or no income tax at all. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On June 02 2009 05:45 D10 wrote: I never gave any money to the church and everyone there loves me =( Now I known their true feelings thanks. haha better start missing sunday church now >_> | ||
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Pioneer
994 Posts
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
On June 02 2009 05:45 D10 wrote: I never gave any money to the church and everyone there loves me =( Now I known their true feelings thanks. I've always donated money at church on the rare occasions when I go, and no one has ever cared about me. Religion is not necessarily a sign of feeble-mindedness, but economic reductionism surely is. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
Do you see religion as means of bashing people ? or helping them ? im on the latter. | ||
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