EPTthe guy who i really hated here is not a little cunt, but his "bodyguard" that "stand after" him to make little bitch safe from being hurt. That shithead deserves a smash even more, really.
The case of the bullied kid Casey - Page 44
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Note: a number of sources are saying that Beast Master Casey has been suspended for 4 days and that the rat boy was suspended for 21. Look around for more sources please. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2268 Posts
the guy who i really hated here is not a little cunt, but his "bodyguard" that "stand after" him to make little bitch safe from being hurt. That shithead deserves a smash even more, really. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On March 15 2011 23:15 LilClinkin wrote: Good on Casey, I was bullied a lot when I was younger, for many years. Changing schools did not solve the issue. When I was in his position, all I wanted was people to leave me alone, and to have some friends. Sadly for me, unlike Casey I did not have size on my side: I was the smallest kid. The knock-on effect of the bullying stays with me to this day, and it's partially why I choose to sit at home on the computer all day. I'd rather be protected in my own bubble than fear going outside and exposing myself to potential crap from assholes over again. I know it's irrational to think like this now, as I am 23 years old and studying to become a doctor, and I do have friends etc. I cover it up extremely well, most people would never guess that I have these issues. But even now when friends ask me to go out to a bar or something my instinctual response is to not go because I just don't feel safe around people I don't know. I'm still haunted by dreams of those past school days, and no matter what I still feel powerless (I never dream that I'm the Hulk smashing those bastards, I'm still afraid of them). I just have to answer this one since one of the things I really hate is when stuff like this stays on peoples minds for such a long time, even though most of the people I know who got bullied needed lots of years to truly recover from it. From a psychological point of view there are usually two types of people after being bullied for a longer time: Survivors and victims. Maybe, just maybe, it might help to think of what you overcome and that you actually grew up stronger than most because of it. There are a lot of people who wouldn't go on to a successfull life afterwards. Hell, you're studying to become a doctor. =) Cheers & good luck. =) | ||
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bahl sofs tiil
United States233 Posts
On March 15 2011 23:58 ihasaKAROT wrote: Go to someone of authorathah Cant just hit people or do what he did and expect that everyone cheers for you. Its still battering and its not what you should do there. He could have killed him there. Ok he was pretty raged over the constant bullying, but what he did is just as bad, if not worse. The thing I 'liked' was how he took the hit to the face there and didnt budge. That I applaud, but the rest... no. bad How long do you think a kid has to be picked on without any consequences before someone half his size feels comfortable punching him square in the face in public, on camera and at school? How long? And by how many different people? His back was literally against a wall. He turned the other cheek repeatedly and was hit each time. His choices were violence or get hit repeatedly in the face and just hope the kid gets bored before doing any serious damage. On March 16 2011 00:04 Almin wrote: There could've been other ways to deal with it, but that's such a dangerous move to use on anyone regardless. I'm not against Casey fighting back, but using that dangerous move, it's fucked up in my opinion. "Dangerous move"? You saw a "move" there? Seriously? That was just a strong kid doing whatever he could to stop an assault. He doesn't know how to fight. He doesn't have "moves". This isn't Street Fighter. | ||
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:10 Almin wrote: Are you fucking serious? How can you compare nearly killing a kid for being punched by this pipsqueak? The fat kid took it too far, and would've gone to jail for it if the smaller kid got seriously hurt. The big kid should've punched/kicked the crap out of him, it would've been easily a KO because of his height/weight. The fat kid took it way too far, but I can't say I would feel bad for the smaller kid, neither of them did the right thing. They look like they are in like 6th grade. Do you really think he has the mind to think about the possible consequences of throwing him on the ground vs punching and kicking? Especially in the heat of the moment. I doubt he was waiting for them to strike again planning on body slamming one of them into the ground. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On March 16 2011 00:20 MiraMax wrote: Exactly to what higher authority other than school and parents would you expect a 12 year old kid to appeal to? The Police? The president of Australia? Oprah? Don't know what system they have in Australia, but in Sweden we have a Child and School Student Representative who works together with the Swedish Schools Inspectorate to deal with this stuff. You should contact them and they will investigate the school. If the school hasn't done what it's suppsed to do (which this particular school clearly hasn't, presuming Casey has brought this to their attention) they will help you sue them in court. Assaulting someone like that will most likely make sure they don't hassle you anymore, but what about the other victims? Are they all supposed to beat the fuck out of their bullies? Are we supposed to raise our children to believe that excessive violence is a good solution to problems? And Casey was lucky he didn't harm the ''rat kid'' more than just a broken ankle (he could've put himself in some really serious trouble here). I think all parties (''Rat kid'' and his gang, the school and Casey) in this whole situation has acted wrong. Casey least of them of course, but I do not like how so many people embrace the violence he used (and all the talk about how the ''rat kid'' deserves to die, get raped and all kinds of stupid shit I've seen in this thread just scares me). | ||
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
On March 16 2011 00:06 ander wrote: Like what? How else could you deal with it? Allegedly this went on for years, and the school did nothing. I'd be really interested to know how you'd diffuse this situation. Mind you these are what, twelve year old kids? Well he could have punched him in the face because slamming somebody to the ground like he did can kill them if they land head first. If he has been bullied for several years his reaction is absolutely understandable though. | ||
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trainRiderJ
United States615 Posts
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hitthat
Poland2268 Posts
On March 16 2011 00:54 Holgerius wrote: Don't know what system they have in Australia, but in Sweden we have a Child and School Student Representative who works together with the Swedish Schools Inspectorate to deal with this stuff. You should contact them and they will investigate the school. If the school hasn't done what it's suppsed to do (which this particular school clearly hasn't, presuming Casey has brought this to their attention) they will help you sue them in court. Assaulting someone like that will most likely make sure they don't hassle you anymore, but what about the other victims? Are they all supposed to beat the fuck out of their bullies? Are we supposed to raise our children to believe that excessive violence is a good solution to problems? And Casey was lucky he didn't harm the ''rat kid'' more than just a broken ankle (he could've put himself in some really serious trouble here). I think all parties (''Rat kid'' and his gang, the school and Casey) in this whole situation has acted wrong. Casey least of them of course, but I do not like how so many people embrace the violence he used (and all the talk about how the ''rat kid'' deserves to die, get raped and all kinds of stupid shit I've seen in this thread just scares me). looks like Sweden is kinda civilised coutry, becouse in my homeground calling to any authoratives (parents, teachers...whatever) would only given a reputation of 'snitch' for a poor Casey. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On March 15 2011 23:15 LilClinkin wrote: Good on Casey, I was bullied a lot when I was younger, for many years. Changing schools did not solve the issue. When I was in his position, all I wanted was people to leave me alone, and to have some friends. Sadly for me, unlike Casey I did not have size on my side: I was the smallest kid. The knock-on effect of the bullying stays with me to this day, and it's partially why I choose to sit at home on the computer all day. I'd rather be protected in my own bubble than fear going outside and exposing myself to potential crap from assholes over again. I know it's irrational to think like this now, as I am 23 years old and studying to become a doctor, and I do have friends etc. I cover it up extremely well, most people would never guess that I have these issues. But even now when friends ask me to go out to a bar or something my instinctual response is to not go because I just don't feel safe around people I don't know. I'm still haunted by dreams of those past school days, and no matter what I still feel powerless (I never dream that I'm the Hulk smashing those bastards, I'm still afraid of them). I just have to answer this one since one of the things I really hate is when stuff like this stays on peoples minds for such a long time, even though most of the people I know who got bullied needed lots of years to truly recover from it. From a psychological point of view there are usually two types of people after being bullied for a longer time: Survivors and victims. Maybe, just maybe, it might help to think of what you overcome and that you actually grew up stronger than most because of it. There are a lot of people who wouldn't go on to a successfull life afterwards. Hell, you're studying to become a doctor. =) Cheers & good luck. =) | ||
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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
On March 16 2011 00:55 blackone wrote: Well he could have punched him in the face because slamming somebody to the ground like he did can kill them if they land head first. If he has been bullied for several years his reaction is absolutely understandable though. I don't think people quite understand what kind of situation Casey was in... First of all, this is a kid we're talking about. Second, he was backed to a wall, took a few hits to the face and body, got laughed at by the other kids around while this was happening and what did he do? He did the only thing his instinct told him to do: DEFEND HIMSELF. How? Lifting the "Rat kid" up in the air and slamming him to the ground. Why? Because that was what his instinct told him to do. | ||
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bahl sofs tiil
United States233 Posts
On March 16 2011 00:55 blackone wrote: Well he could have punched him in the face because slamming somebody to the ground like he did can kill them if they land head first. If he has been bullied for several years his reaction is absolutely understandable though. Just punch him? Also: Casey's father said yesterday his son had been the victim of bullying for several years... ... Students said violence was a daily occurrence with fights often filmed and posted online. "The fights I have seen here, it's horrible. It really makes me feel unsafe," one said. A classmate added: "People pick on him every single day, they hit him around and stuff..." | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On March 16 2011 00:55 blackone wrote: If he has been bullied for several years his reaction is absolutely understandable though. Oh come on, what is with the "IF" here. Use some common sense. You think this is the first time these kids bullied Casey? They were attempting to record their bullying to further humiliate him. Its pretty obvious this had been going on for some time. Edit: I cannot believe the mother of the buly wants to sue Casey. They must have seen the video. I need a source to confirm that. Edit2: Somewhere way back, someone posted the bully was trying to run spin control on the video and bragging that it was edited and won the fight. Any truth to that? | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On March 16 2011 00:54 Holgerius wrote: Don't know what system they have in Australia, but in Sweden we have a Child and School Student Representative who works together with the Swedish Schools Inspectorate to deal with this stuff. You should contact them and they will investigate the school. If the school hasn't done what it's suppsed to do (which this particular school clearly hasn't, presuming Casey has brought this to their attention) they will help you sue them in court. Assaulting someone like that will most likely make sure they don't hassle you anymore, but what about the other victims? Are they all supposed to beat the fuck out of their bullies? Are we supposed to raise our children to believe that excessive violence is a good solution to problems? And Casey was lucky he didn't harm the ''rat kid'' more than just a broken ankle (he could've put himself in some really serious trouble here). I think all parties (''Rat kid'' and his gang, the school and Casey) in this whole situation has acted wrong. Casey least of them of course, but I do not like how so many people embrace the violence he used (and all the talk about how the ''rat kid'' deserves to die, get raped and all kinds of stupid shit I've seen in this thread just scares me). I mostly agree but there are some flaws. How is a 12 year old supposed to know that there is a authority above his school that he can contact? We didn't know if they actually did something like that. We all know stuff like that can take years till something actually happens (if at all). It's definitely the schools fault and maybe the parents that they didn't take it further, definitely not Caseys. The slam was brutal, I still don't think Casey knew how dangerous it was. In fact, Casey did less than most Boys that snap in his age would do. He defended himself and stopped right after. No extra hit or anything. He also didn't fought back immediately but only when the bully didn't stopped. I can only speak for myself, but I didn't knew with 12 how dangerous a slam like that is. At least in Germany a 12 y/o couldn't get any trouble from the law even if the rat got seriously hurt. I agree tho that everyone that is sad that the bully didn't got seriously hurt should think about wtf they are saying. edit: apparently I don't think he's 12, is he? But even if he's older it still shouldn't be his turn to go to higher authorities, especially since he have been bullied his whole life long. | ||
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TheGreat
11 Posts
Another issue I have is those saying he should've want to an authority figure, the bully had him cornered and was attacking him, Casey had 2 options, sit there and hope the bully gets tired of punching him or defend himself. Lastly I have a question for all those who say Casey was wrong, suppose you are walking down the street minding your own business, when out of nowhere some thug corners you just starts attacking, would just stand there and hope he stops before hurting you? Or would you defend yourself? | ||
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pokeyAA
United States936 Posts
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bahl sofs tiil
United States233 Posts
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pyro19
6575 Posts
And to the Moral brigade , you really think he was trying to break his neck on purpose. Casey just snapped , a lot of people do when you get bullied like that , I mean FFS , he got punched in the face. | ||
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Gnosis
Scotland912 Posts
On March 16 2011 00:55 blackone wrote: Well he could have punched him in the face because slamming somebody to the ground like he did can kill them if they land head first. If he has been bullied for several years his reaction is absolutely understandable though. If he had punched back, what do you think the chances of escalation with the bullies on and off camera would have been, especially if this had been going on for years? | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
this is just fucked up. both 4 days? And only the both people fighting, not the cameraman? As if the fighting is the main problem here and not only the symptom. God this school sucks. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
 This entire thing is just depressing. Feel so sad for Casey. | ||
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