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Note: a number of sources are saying that Beast Master Casey has been suspended for 4 days and that the rat boy was suspended for 21. Look around for more sources please.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
March 15 2011 16:28 GMT
#881
To throw my $.02 into the he woulda, shoulda, coulda done something other than body slam the bully. I like to quote Mike Tyson when it comes to fights:

"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth."

No statement seems more true in this video. Casey obviously just wanted out but the kid kept pushing till Casey finally snapped and lashed out to make it stop.
beg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
991 Posts
March 15 2011 16:30 GMT
#882
i was semi-bullied by a bunch of girls (good god, this scarred me until now) ... i can totally relate to how casey must have felt. it was a move out of desperation... killing the other boy would have been a terrible accident and would have left casey scarred for a lifetime... it's lucky for him that it didn't happen.


nevertheless, violence isn't a good answer anyway... the coolest boys would just laugh at the little ratboy and walk away without even caring. that is SO much more masculine than destroying the other one in a fight... sooo much more...


anyway... poor casey... i'm sure he felt a lot better after that day, but with the aftertaste of having hurt another being...



life ain't easy, ya.
ket-
Profile Joined April 2010
97 Posts
March 15 2011 16:31 GMT
#883
I never really was bullied in school nor was a bully, but I just hate the principle. That little fucktard deserved it, no pity from my side even though I'm normally pretty full of empathy.

You get what you deserve in that kind of situation, I honestly wished seeing the video that he would have gone on and kicked the other guys' faces as well (the one standing / filming) since they were clearly part of the bullying (although not actively on that one).
HiyA is bestest.
heroyi
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 16:51:55
March 15 2011 16:41 GMT
#884
I always have wondered what makes someone want to bully especially in this situation.

A little twig versus Casey...seriously...

The little kid was asking for a beating, he even smiled and they all laughed at the end of the video...WTF is that about...

Casey is obviously well mannered and good spirited. If he wasn't he would have probably, being still a kid, let go of all control and repeated to attack the bully despite him being disabled. the kid kept initiating the punches and was THREATENING Casey. Casey responds back to DISABLE him. He body slams the kid, analyzes the situation, and sees the fight is done. He just stood over the kid to make sure he wasn't going to do anything.

He obviously tried to use the peace card
The kid threatened despite the good nature offer

Some people will not respond to discussion and only know how to talk in violence. Sometimes you gotta talk their language to make them understand.

How the system handles bullies is so flawed. Do you really think a suspension or even an expulsion will make a bully, who is pent up on ego and no respect for other people, go re-evaluate his life because of some non-tangible consequence.

wat wat in my pants
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4199 Posts
March 15 2011 16:42 GMT
#885
The fact that Casey got suspended is fucking disgusting.....

The message that the suspension sends to kids is disgusting.....

If you're getting bullied, and try to get help, nobody is going to assist you. If you sit there and take it, you're going to get hurt. If you stand up for yourself, you're going to get punished.

It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.....
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
brobear
Profile Joined January 2010
United States101 Posts
March 15 2011 16:45 GMT
#886
Casey probably suffered so much more mentally, than that little asshole bully suffered physically.

It felt good seeing that little shit get slammed.
Zinjil
Profile Joined February 2011
United States166 Posts
March 15 2011 16:47 GMT
#887
Looking at this video the first time almost made me cry. There are so many kids that this happens to who never fight back, either they're just smaller than the aggressors or so afraid that they stay cowed and just take the abuse.

Even now, years and years later, I'm still dealing psychologically with the bullying I experienced. This kind of abuse just breaks people, and looking at this video made me feel small and helpless again.

As civilized as people grow up to be, as much as I would avoid being in a fight with every inch of my being, schools are not peaceful places and if it really comes down to it there isn't anything wrong in my book with beating the everloving shit out of a bully to avoid being some asshole's plaything and being mentally cowed and crippled for the rest of your life.

The only recourse the schools should have for bullying of any kind is immediate suspension. Teachers and administrators turn a blind eye to anything less than outright brawls and this leads to a horrific environment in the halls and playgrounds and this video is the outcome.
Rayven
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom81 Posts
March 15 2011 17:02 GMT
#888
On March 15 2011 02:56 StyLeD wrote:
According to a comment it says the other dude got suspended to....let's keep it objective...

I don't agree with either kid there. Obviously the little kid wanted to impress some girls, hormones and all...the big kid probably reacted because he was being videotaped and wanted to act tough. Both of em at fault.


You can see the bigger kid clearly not wanting to fight, he even took a punch to the face and didn't react, hardly the attitude of someone wanting to look tough in front of a camera. If he wanted to look tough he could have just caved his face in after he threw him on the floor, but instead he walks away. I think it's a completely justifiable reaction.
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Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 17:28:06
March 15 2011 17:06 GMT
#889
This kid went barking up the wrong tree one too many times, it finally fell on him. He got exactly what he deserved. Just glad Casey had the courage to stick up for himself. A lot of people get bullied like this and bottle it up. Some of them really snap and show up to school with an assault rifle. I got bullied quite a bit in my youth, when I finally had enough I was much less forgiving. I didn't stop till the bastard went limp, and I broke my foot on his face. But I feel just as much anger towards all the teachers and school officials who were well aware of my plight and did nothing. They deserve a body slam too IMO, these School employees take the responsibility to look after our children, if they are not going to do that, they have no right to punish kids like Casey for taking matters into their own hands.

This kid is already getting memes, found a few gems.
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NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
March 15 2011 17:06 GMT
#890
On March 16 2011 02:02 Rayven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 02:56 StyLeD wrote:
According to a comment it says the other dude got suspended to....let's keep it objective...

I don't agree with either kid there. Obviously the little kid wanted to impress some girls, hormones and all...the big kid probably reacted because he was being videotaped and wanted to act tough. Both of em at fault.


You can see the bigger kid clearly not wanting to fight, he even took a punch to the face and didn't react, hardly the attitude of someone wanting to look tough in front of a camera. If he wanted to look tough he could have just caved his face in after he threw him on the floor, but instead he walks away. I think it's a completely justifiable reaction.


Justifiable and Hilarious. Proves how much of a non-fighter he is. His first choice was a freaking body slam. Who the hell pulls that out of a hat? I could punch him? Nah I could kick him? Nah. How about I pick him up spin him around and slam him. Yea that sound good.
Danjoh
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden405 Posts
March 15 2011 17:07 GMT
#891
On March 16 2011 00:54 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 00:20 MiraMax wrote:
On March 16 2011 00:11 Holgerius wrote:
If he talked to his school and parents and this shit continued he should've taken it to a higher authority.


Exactly to what higher authority other than school and parents would you expect a 12 year old kid to appeal to? The Police? The president of Australia? Oprah?

Don't know what system they have in Australia, but in Sweden we have a Child and School Student Representative who works together with the Swedish Schools Inspectorate to deal with this stuff. You should contact them and they will investigate the school. If the school hasn't done what it's suppsed to do (which this particular school clearly hasn't, presuming Casey has brought this to their attention) they will help you sue them in court.

Assaulting someone like that will most likely make sure they don't hassle you anymore, but what about the other victims? Are they all supposed to beat the fuck out of their bullies? Are we supposed to raise our children to believe that excessive violence is a good solution to problems? And Casey was lucky he didn't harm the ''rat kid'' more than just a broken ankle (he could've put himself in some really serious trouble here).

I think all parties (''Rat kid'' and his gang, the school and Casey) in this whole situation has acted wrong. Casey least of them of course, but I do not like how so many people embrace the violence he used (and all the talk about how the ''rat kid'' deserves to die, get raped and all kinds of stupid shit I've seen in this thread just scares me).

Child and School Student representives sound good on paper, if it werent for the fact that they in some cases are the bullies, or more common, are afraid of the bullies or want to befriend the bullies. And when I went to school, we weren't informed by this atleast.

And by swedish definition, what he did wasn't excessive violence. Excessive violence would have been if he had done any other hostile action after incapacitating the other kid.
Real example would be when a man tried to assault a woman, a guy passing by in a car (much smaller than the assaultant) got out and took his jacklift, and hit the assaulting guy in the head with it. The jury was fine with this, but the 2nd hit to the head while the man was wobbling away was considered excessive and got him convicted of assault.
Rayven
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 17:14:05
March 15 2011 17:12 GMT
#892
On March 16 2011 02:06 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 02:02 Rayven wrote:
On March 15 2011 02:56 StyLeD wrote:
According to a comment it says the other dude got suspended to....let's keep it objective...

I don't agree with either kid there. Obviously the little kid wanted to impress some girls, hormones and all...the big kid probably reacted because he was being videotaped and wanted to act tough. Both of em at fault.


You can see the bigger kid clearly not wanting to fight, he even took a punch to the face and didn't react, hardly the attitude of someone wanting to look tough in front of a camera. If he wanted to look tough he could have just caved his face in after he threw him on the floor, but instead he walks away. I think it's a completely justifiable reaction.


Justifiable and Hilarious. Proves how much of a non-fighter he is. His first choice was a freaking body slam. Who the hell pulls that out of a hat? I could punch him? Nah I could kick him? Nah. How about I pick him up spin him around and slam him. Yea that sound good.


I LOVE how disabled the kid is after, limping around like a fool. Good stuff.
On December 01 2010 03:16 FenneK wrote: Well...NaDa won Dreamhack, FoxeR won the GSL 2, Jinro won MLG Dallas, and my personal favourites otherwise are DeMusliM (for his great style of play) and qxc (for his brilliant constant harass).
Taawus
Profile Joined February 2010
Estonia36 Posts
March 15 2011 17:15 GMT
#893
Body slam all the way.
heroyi
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 17:20:50
March 15 2011 17:17 GMT
#894
On March 16 2011 01:47 Zinjil wrote:
Teachers and administrators turn a blind eye to anything less than outright brawls and this leads to a horrific environment in the halls and playgrounds and this video is the outcome.


That is one of the major flaws. They just assume they are playing around and don't pay any attention thinking this won't lead to anything...

They only take actions when motions and results have already settled in...

My cousin currently is being bullied at his high school... he has a younger brother but hell what can he do. Everyone calls my older cousin pop-tart boy...because he eats pop-tarts for breakfast. This may seem harmless but its the fact that they do it in a insulting manner and still call him that despite not eating pop-tarts at school anymore, probably to stop the comments.
Some 19/20 year old bullies him still, yes you read the age right and can assume he failed high school multiple times. The guy also has a younger brother who bullies like a dipshit. Both are older and stronger than my cousins so yea they are helpless.... My uncle goes in and TALKS to the staff asking for some sort of action to take place...they say they can't "do" anything. They have tried to talk to their mother, who is not unfamiliar with the situation considering the kids have records of bullying in other schools, since the dad is in jail and she has to work full time to keep the roof over their heads acts like a barbie and says she will "talk" to her sons. Well the talking never works obviously with the uneducated people.
One day my uncle picks them up from school when the little brother of the bully goes around bullies my cousin, my uncle gets mad and threatens to talk to the school...the younger brother of my cousin tries to argue back...well the little kid gets mad and tries to jump into the car and tries to fight him. My uncles tries to pull him away only to get attacked by the 20 year old and hurts my uncle's back. My uncles talks to the school, school pleads that he pushes the court for lawsuit against them to get rid of them. The reason that everyone is so damn hesitant is because the father is in prison, for unknown reason, and afraid of being "targeted" with no intel whatsoever on the situation...
I live too far away to drive over there. But if I could and find them I would go over there and set them straight with my fists.

You wanna say that negotiations and talking is the way to handle it?
Fuck you.

little more "fun fact:
my cousin that is being bullied is currently a junior, younger being a sophomore.
The one being bullied has autism.
Another reason they can't "do" anything is because my cousin is not in handicap classes but in regular "normal' classes. His autism isn't severe and his doctors believe that if he is in "right" environment then the case can migitate even further. Thus the schools only actions is to place my cousin in the handicap classes...

I hate every bullies and they do deserve an ass-whooping.
wat wat in my pants
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 17:25:50
March 15 2011 17:20 GMT
#895
On March 15 2011 23:47 [TA]eccentric wrote:
-_-

So like, the fat kid was justified in trying to kill the little kid but seriously.

If it had been happening for a while, there are a fucking billion things he could have done.

I'm so anti violence that this video breaks my little heart </3


I have witnessed bullying (never been bullied myself and never bullied anyone) and as far as I have seen there is nothing the victim can do short of beating the crap out of the bullies - or at least give it a shot. Reporting it to the teachers might have a little effect, only to the extent that the bullying will get more subtle though. I've seen quite a few guys get bullied and it doesn't stop until the victim takes it into his own hands in my experience.
wat
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
March 15 2011 17:23 GMT
#896
For those who still feel sorry for the bully:
Would you like to be in Casey's position?
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 17:25:33
March 15 2011 17:24 GMT
#897
I think his reaction was way to harsh. But if he really has been bullied for years, I can understand his reaction. Sometimes, enough is enough. I`m becoming a teacher, and I also have seen scenes like this. (but not that brutal...) Of course you can tell the kids that bullying the weak / fat / whatever is wrong, but the real problem lies deeper.
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Lomak
Profile Joined June 2010
United States311 Posts
March 15 2011 17:35 GMT
#898
The lame pansy's claiming he was out of bounds by body slamming him, need to put themselves in a position where the only option is an aggressive reaction. We don't live in a world of unicorns and fairy dust. People are fucking horrible, and this poor kid that has been pushed to the limit did the ONLY NATURAL thing that every fucking human on the face of this Earth would do if pushed to it.

He defended himself. Fuck the small kid and whatever may have happened to him, because it was coming to him.
Some see the glass half full, others half empty. I think the glass is just too big.
VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
March 15 2011 17:35 GMT
#899
Darwinian theory applies:

Little kid bullies, cant back it up = Little kid gets fucking destroyed. Natural selection.

In all seriousness though, his reaction was a little overboard. If the kid had hit the ground on his side or back/front, OK. But the way he ended up hitting the ground, was not acceptable. The kid got what was coming to him, but the big guy deserves the suspension, and it is probably advisable to keep him out of the aftermath in school.
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above
Profile Joined January 2011
United States71 Posts
March 15 2011 18:02 GMT
#900
On March 16 2011 02:35 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
Darwinian theory applies:

Little kid bullies, cant back it up = Little kid gets fucking destroyed. Natural selection.

In all seriousness though, his reaction was a little overboard. If the kid had hit the ground on his side or back/front, OK. But the way he ended up hitting the ground, was not acceptable. The kid got what was coming to him, but the big guy deserves the suspension, and it is probably advisable to keep him out of the aftermath in school.


Haha well said with your theory

But in all honesty, sometimes when it comes to those moments when you've just had enough, there is no real time to think "is this too much?" you just react...

Litte bully deserved it, school should have made an example out of it and showed they don't stand up for bullying and just let casey stay in and gloat in his glory haha
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